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Lisle 29200 hand impact set

n8n

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After using shop foreman's Snap-On hand impact, my parts store, no-name $10 thing that I've had for going on 20 years seemed crude and ineffective. The Snap-On just blasted off rotor screws like they were nothing. So I left him a busted Snap-On impact swivel to warranty and and asked him to order me the same hand impact next time the truck guy stopped by. Today I received a shiny (OK, black oxide) new swivel - which I've been sorely missing - and the Lisle kit in the subject line. Apparently SO has discontinued their own branded hand impact sets and the truck guy is selling this one now instead. It *is* "made in USA" and is "just as good" according to him. True/false? I don't know when the next time I'll get an opportunity to use it is... sad thing is last time I was there I ended up doing front brakes on a BMW and shop foreman wasn't there, so I was cussing having to use my rickety old tool... just kind of wondering if this really is the real deal or if I should keep an eyeball out for a used Snap-On set. I guess I'll find out next time I use it, but an educated opinion would be welcome.
 
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Anyone used one?

After using shop foreman's Snap-On hand impact, my parts store, no-name $10 thing that I've had for going on 20 years seemed crude and ineffective. The Snap-On just blasted off rotor screws like they were nothing. So I left him a busted Snap-On impact swivel to warranty and and asked him to order me the same hand impact next time the truck guy stopped by. Today I received a shiny (OK, black oxide) new swivel - which I've been sorely missing - and the Lisle kit in the subject line. Apparently SO has discontinued their own branded hand impact sets and the truck guy is selling this one now instead. It *is* "made in USA" and is "just as good" according to him. True/false? I don't know when the next time I'll get an opportunity to use it is... sad thing is last time I was there I ended up doing front brakes on a BMW and shop foreman wasn't there, so I was cussing having to use my rickety old tool... just kind of wondering if this really is the real deal or if I should keep an eyeball out for a used Snap-On set. I guess I'll find out next time I use it, but an educated opinion would be welcome.

Depends on whether or not it was priced as "snap on". I know sears sells one (craftsman, I believe) that is like 10 bucks on sale (lisle might make it). Not something I'd really use or really necessary unless you don't have a heat gun and don't have penetrating oil.

What did you pay...go ahead say something like 35 bucks we're ready.:lol:
 

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Lisle has sold a hand impact for many years - it must have been 40 years ago when I bought one after I saw a friend use one to loosen screws on a motorcycle..
 
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I don't know what was paid for it... apparently shop owner told him to pay out of the cash drawer and when I asked him how much it cost he said that was part payment for fixing all the stuff I've done around the shop. I hope it wasn't with the usual Snap-On markup (although I was prepared to pay list for the PIT120 or whatever it's called)

There are times when nothing else works... usually Phillips head rotor screws or door hinge screws call for a hand impact and BFH, even with heat and oil nothing else works as well. Even a rattle gun with a screwdriver bit doesn't work as well. Out of habit I reach for the hand impact even with Allen head rotor screws, it's therapeutic.
 
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The one from Sears is really nice
I have one and it works well
I also have a couple of the snap on ones and they work well too

I used to have a snap on driver that sold non snap on stuff like proto pullers and such. His prices were marked up but cheaper than snap on pullers. He didn't carry any junk just alternate brands. Your guy may be doing the same

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Anyone used one?

After using shop foreman's Snap-On hand impact, my parts store, no-name $10 thing that I've had for going on 20 years seemed crude and ineffective. The Snap-On just blasted off rotor screws like they were nothing. So I left him a busted Snap-On impact swivel to warranty and and asked him to order me the same hand impact next time the truck guy stopped by. Today I received a shiny (OK, black oxide) new swivel - which I've been sorely missing - and the Lisle kit in the subject line. Apparently SO has discontinued their own branded hand impact sets and the truck guy is selling this one now instead. It *is* "made in USA" and is "just as good" according to him. True/false? I don't know when the next time I'll get an opportunity to use it is... sad thing is last time I was there I ended up doing front brakes on a BMW and shop foreman wasn't there, so I was cussing having to use my rickety old tool... just kind of wondering if this really is the real deal or if I should keep an eyeball out for a used Snap-On set. I guess I'll find out next time I use it, but an educated opinion would be welcome.

Not to my knowledge. The impacts are still listed on the snap-on site. I remember my driver selling the PIT120 for $119 2-3 months ago or so. Was a "special". He made no mention of discontinuation.

I looked at the one he had. The funny thing was, the impact driver had the old Snap-on logo on it, but the bits were new logo. Found that odd and remember making mention of that to my driver when I looked at the kit.
 
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yeah, I was told the same, I'd asked foreman to check it out and he said that they were on special when I first asked for a lot less than that ($70? I think?) which was when I told him heck yeah get me one. Don't know who's yanking my chain on this one, now that I look I see the same on the web site, although the set is listed as $255 (yikes... but that's what I expect)

Problem is the driver stops by on Thursday which is when the owner (who I usually ride with if I'm there) takes off, so if I want to see the driver in person I have to drive myself 50 miles each way, and there's no work on Thurs. usually anyway so I'm pretty much there for moral support and BS
 

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I have the lisle sets in 3/8 and 1/2. I have had these for 10 years. I have replaced the bits, but the driver has withstood a beating over the years.
 

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Something every shade tree mechanic should have !

I have an old Craftsman one, so I'm sure it is made in the US. I know I paid under $20, but that was over 30 years ago ... well maybe over 40 !
 
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n8n

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shade tree heck! Even if I'm working in a fully equipped shop it is still the right tool for Phillips head screws that don't easily come out by hand. One of those tools I'd never be without, just wanted an upgrade from my no-name deal. Looks like the one I have is still sold however

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002O16UPM/?tag=atomicindus08-20

however, the cam in it I can feel is rougher than the Snap-On or Lisle tools, which can't help but limit the "twist" that it provides when you smack it. Price doesn't appear to have gone up significantly in the last 15 years either!
 

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Something every shade tree mechanic should have !

I have an old Craftsman one, so I'm sure it is made in the US. I know I paid under $20, but that was over 30 years ago ... well maybe over 40 !

Plus one on the craftsman. I bought one about five years ago to replace the old no name I have. Work's well, I have a buddy that has a Mac, the craftsman is just as effective. Not sure who makes the craftsman or if it still USA made. They are a must have tool, if you work on cycles, boats, basically any small engine. I have heard nothing but bad about Lisle bits.
 
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I think the Craftsman IS made by Lisle. I have the 3/8 Lisle as well and they are pretty much identical other than size.

And as others have mentioned there isn't much that could replace one for door latches/striker plates/motorcycle case screws.
 
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n8n

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Well, I had an opportunity to use this yesterday... Not super challenging (rotor screws on a 2009 model year car) but it did work well and felt nice and smooth. So conditional thumbs up so far, definitely an improvement over my old one.

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I have a lisle and the snap$on, the Impact handle with the snap$on kit is better but bits with Lisle kit are better. But I have had the Lisle far longer and it has performed great.
 

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I have the lisle one. It comes in a grey case. Ive used it numerous amounts of times. Its worked great for me every time. No issues. Even the bits have held up ok.
 
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n8n

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Well just resurrected this to post a follow up... the #3 Phillips in the Lisle kit started looking like a soft serve cone after a while. I ended up finding a PIT120 kit in a pawn shop so switched to that. Ended up doing a brake job on an older Integra yesterday and didn't have my SO kit with me so used the Lisle... #3 broke on the 2nd rotor screw :( Borrowed one to finish the job...
 

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All the old motorcycle guys have them
Its from back in the day when we used phillips bits on JIS engine case screws and accused the Japanese of using silly putty to make said screws after we stripped them out
Good times lol
 

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I use these all the time for bearing retainers inside motorcycle engines.

I have 3 including the Lisle and Snap-on, the snap-on one works the best hands down. Something inside is different cause it works different.
 
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n8n

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OK, I was at the shop actually working on the same car again today, and again I did not have my SO impact with me. Broke ANOTHER Lisle #3 Phillips bit on a different rotor screw. Not real impressed with their longevity/usefulness. However the driver itself must be decent because the shop owner had my old cheapo parts store impact, and while I'd used it many times over the years before investing in a better one and the bits for that still held up, the Lisle driver promptly twisted that one into an approximation of a soft serve cone after only a few hits.

What ended up getting the rotor screw out was the shop foreman's air chisel bit holder attachment, I didn't know such things existe, now I need one. Oh, and an air chisel too.
 

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I threw out all my Lisle bits, 5/16" bits are not very easy to find. I buy Snap-on bit sockets to use with my 3/8" driver.

I use the Lisle driver every day, paired with a 32oz deadblow or 4lb sledge (nothing lighter). The driver is still holding up strong after two years.

The trick I learned is to bash the driver straight on (no twisting) to the set screw a few times "to knock it loose" first, otherwise the bit socket may not sit flush with the fastener and strip it out.

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