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Lithium ion battery fires.

dogdog

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Yeah the tech and safety will be even better

How worried were you when the Combustion! engine hit the roads 🤣
Who me? Not that old geezer , there are no battery self combustion issues on ice. Only fire are stupidity and Maybe a Honda 😄
 
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We had a fire Sunday at the middle school a couple blocks over from the house, computer tablets charging and overheated and lithium batteries started a fire. Supposedly the tablets were stacked upon each other but are really supposed to be spaced out somehow during charging. Thankfully it was a Sunday and the fire was contained to one room, certainly helped that the school construction was from way back in the day thus concrete floors, concrete encased steel, brick and masonry walls throughout.
 

FullRaceMerc

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I think part of the problem is many of those knock-off chargers are being sold online with the name brand right on them. It takes some effort to make sure you are getting the genuine article.
 

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Also be aware there are several types of "lithium" batteries. The most 'dangerous' ones are the lithium polymer types that are often used in RC and drone batteries. They're light, powerful, and easier to damage. MotoAmerica recently banned them after one caught on fire in a pit during winter testing (pretty spectacular, worth googling, they have the fire from the start). Other types of lithium chemistries aren't as fire prone (nothing is perfect). This goes on top of the general charging/temp/use/etc. things.
 

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All this will be over in 10 years, the Japanese have commercialize a new battery type (announced few weeks ago) and the Chinese and Brit’s (owned by india company) is also developing one for commercial use.
 
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All this will be over in 10 years, the Japanese have commercialize a new battery type (announced few weeks ago) and the Chinese and Brit’s (owned by india company) is also developing one for commercial use.
Great, then we'll have to find something else to worry endlessly over. :(
 

dogdog

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Great, then we'll have to find something else to worry endlessly over. :(
Lol isn’t that the promise from 2000 when li-ion replaces the ni-card battery that blow up the flip phones in your pants.. if anyone remember those incidents. But all those RC no-cad battery that caught fire were never reported or were nbd.
 

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Only a few here in Honolulu. The last big one was a house that burned down several years ago when the owner stuck a battery in hi open garage to charge then went out. It exploded and set the garage and house on fire. They news showed a picture of the melted battery and it was a Black and Decker battery. The fire chief said not to leave it charging unattended. I've been doing that since I got my first Makita 18V LXT set in 2010 - recharge the batteries when I'm home.
 

Ole Slewfoot

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The local Duke Energy plant has a couple stored energy companies sharing the site, and 2 of them have had module fires in sea crate sized modules. Both totally insignificant compared to when Duke lit one of the 21m gallon bunker fuel tanks on fire.

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Looking at some house fire insurance data (totally unofficial and probably highly unreliable), lithium battery fires burned down less than 1 house per day last year.
Lightning burned down 16+ per day, statistically speaking.
 

zendriver

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Over the years, wonder how many homes burned down from wood/coal stoves/furnaces? :dunno:

The risk was surely acceptable compared to the cold.
 

M635_Guy

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Looking at some house fire insurance data (totally unofficial and probably highly unreliable), lithium battery fires burned down less than 1 house per day last year.
Lightning burned down 16+ per day, statistically speaking.
I dunno - insurance companies run their business on data/odds-calculation...
 
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