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Too_Many_Tools, I'm in the banking industry in the IT Security side of our house. We're in the upper Midwest. Pay is actually competitive though. It's always our #1 gripe by employees and hiring managers but multiple reviews have been done for our area and we has been found to be right in the mix. For a given position on my team, I can have a $40k range if needed to get the right person but they've got to be the right person. Realistically, we don't post salary in our job ads like most companies (annoys me) but we just don't get applicants.
On the subject of kids and mowing, I think it's sad too where they aren't working for themselves and only want to rely on allowances. Parents should pull the kid from the tv/ whatever and have them do chores and or other jobs.

In a competitive hiring environment, salary ranges are always posted...when they are not it tells you that the company IS playing mind games...good companies know that paying employees well for good work is a requirment for business. Trying to reduce employee pay to make profits is a sure sign of a business in trouble.

Where there is smoke is fire..if pay is the #1 gripe of employees AND hiring managers, you have a workforce preparing to walk when the time is right..prepare for it because it will happen.

You mention you have a 40K range to work with...is that 40K plus or 40K +/-?
I ask because of what the median is...that is considerable range and I will bet that the company is right at the median..correct?

Also what is your attrition rate now compared to five years ago? It should be lower now because of the job market but any double digit rates say the company has retaining talent.

I have heard a number of comments relating to allowances...the kids I know are busting their butts working with jobs and going to school..most are college bound. Any resentments towards allowances would seem to be similar to the example of employers not being able to hire employees cheaply as the think they should be able to.

Given the free market and supply/demand, wages are usually set by it.
 
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Your response may hold the answer to your own question.

The more people in your neighborhood who buy the same service you are looking for, the fewer people in your neighborhood who will likely own a mower and trimmer and the fewer kids who will see cutting lawns as something they can easily do or want to do for some extra bucks. The example parents set influence the behavior of their kids. If a parent uses a service to do a job, it is also natural for kids to think that the job isn't worth their time.

Another example of this is many people use to change their own oil and filter. Now many kids would never think to do this, because the societal norm is to get the job done by a garage and their parents don't have the tools at home to do the job.

Computers are clearly on a similar path.

Our movement towards a service economy continues.....

Times change...sometimes for the better and sometimes for not.

Everyone has 24 hours in a day..what do you use yours for?

Fewer and fewer people work with their hands like the previous generations.

That can be good and bad.

If the kid is not changing the car oil, is he doing something else that provides more value?

If he is, then more power to him.

Whether or not he is ....well that is where the power of good parents come in.

Parents lead by example....or not.
 
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