To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!

Long or wide?

2Tall

Active member
Joined
Mar 4, 2012
Messages
33
Location
Ontario Canada
Just wondering what you guys think is the best configuration for a garage? I was originally going to go 36wide by 28 deep but I think it is going to look odd with the way my property is layed out. Should I maybe go 28wide by 36 deep? Should even be a little cheaper that way...

I will mainly be using it to park/wash/work on my vehicles and store my bikes/lawn tractors etc
 
To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!

djjsr

Well-known member
Joined
Sep 4, 2006
Messages
4,796
Location
In the cornfields
Just a personal preference, but I like wide better. I had a 42' wide x 28' deep and liked it a lot. Give some thought to the size and location of the overhead doors. It makes a big difference.
 

kmacht

Well-known member
Joined
Apr 12, 2010
Messages
2,769
Location
Connecticut
I would go wide. If you park cars in there I think it is better to have the room to walk around them and be able to open and close doors on the side. Much easier to do things like vaccumm out the car when you have the room to keep the door open and roll the vaccum around. 28 deep should also leave you plenty of room for when you are working on the engine. The only time I can see it getting tight is if you are going to pull a motor out. You need the room for not only the car but also the hoist and the engine in front of the car.

Keith
 

SPDMETL

Well-known member
Joined
Oct 25, 2010
Messages
216
Might have been discussed before, but is there any length/height/width that gives the best bang for the buck?
 

Russian

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 2, 2011
Messages
49
Location
Dickinson, ND
I prefer a wide shop with multiple bays. It provides an opportunity to section out different types of work.
 

Falcon67

Well-known member
Joined
Jun 11, 2009
Messages
18,371
Location
Merkel, TX
Might have been discussed before, but is there any length/height/width that gives the best bang for the buck?

Depends. If you are going DIY with sticks, usually 24~26' wide is your max for dimension lumber from the yard. Over that width, you'd be buying trusses which run about double cost, more or less, at 24'. Or you'd be putting in posts to support part of the joist run. Assuming a 6/12 pitch and no snow loads you can use 2x10 (or 12) x 24' with two 2x6x16' or 2x8x16' rafters, 24" on center until you run out of land or money.

Here's an idea of bumper clearance (need a better one, really) for 16' long cars in a 24' wide (net interior width 23' 4") shop. Back bumpers are about 2' off the back wall, overhead door is 18" to the right of the man door frame.
 

Attachments

  • clearance.jpg
    clearance.jpg
    67 KB · Views: 138
Last edited:

jumpingryan

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 17, 2009
Messages
89
Location
Ontario, Canada
Might have been discussed before, but is there any length/height/width that gives the best bang for the buck?

In my area, you will have a problem getting roof trusses longer than 44 feet. With 2 feet overhang on each side, a good width as related to your roof line is 40 feet wide..... The reason for this is the length of the truck they are generally transported on.

Most standard plans of a garage are made to make best/efficient use of wood. If you are building it as you go without much of a plan, just go to the box store/lumber yard and look at standard lengths of lumber, and cost out some stuff for yourself. Remember to ask for bulk discounts and they may have certain cuts they are more eager to unload. A framing book can also give you ideas on efficient use of materials.

When selecting wood, consider the insulation you want to put in. 2X6 is far stronger than 2X4, and you can super insulate. Depending on your climate, if you heat full time, it is worth it (and if you are super insulated, you don't have to worry about not heating full time at least to a minimum temperature, as it pays for itself)

My detached garage is 30 by 40 by 13 feet high. 13 feet gives a good height for a lift in the future. It is 2X4 construction, and I heat full time with an oil furnace (about $400 to 600 a year in my cold climate). I wish it was 2X6, but it isn't worth retrofitting now.

However, that being said, I am looking at adding a 30X30 or 30X40 extension onto the back (with a half loft)! LOL You will find that things quickly fill up, especially if you are not well organized, or have other demands on storage (like lawn tractors, and wife stuff, and bikes, and etc etc.)

Ryan
 

Highbeam

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 15, 2011
Messages
2,292
Location
Mt Rainier foothills, WA
I am an RVer so I need parking for a 34 foot long trailer but more importantly due to site contraints I ended up with a 30 foot wide by 60 foot long garage. The short ends (gable ends) are 30 foot wide with 12' tall by 12' wide doors. On one end is a single door, and the other end has 2 of these doors. The shop is pull through so I can drag trailers through the shop and then turn them around in the back.

30' trusses with 2 foot overhangs are cheap and work very well.

We all like pictures.
 

Attachments

  • IMAG0285.jpg
    IMAG0285.jpg
    98 KB · Views: 114

Northstar

Well-known member
Joined
Nov 27, 2011
Messages
304
Location
Minneapolis, MN
For what you're going, deeper would be better I think. Keeps the stuff away from the sides of the vehicles which gives them plenty of room for parking. deeper gives you the room for working on the front/back of the vehicle without your back against the wall and room for storage racking.
 

jonzer12

Well-known member
Joined
Oct 17, 2011
Messages
165
I prefer deeper as I like my shop area away from the parking area and the doors, this way I can work with the door open without worrying about a draft (welding w/ gas) and my shop stuff never has to be moved for something to be driven in.
 

38Chevy454

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 26, 2006
Messages
4,036
Location
Cincinnati, OH
I like wider for parking more vehicles with room to work on them without potentially blocking one in. Although site constraints may dictate more than anything. My garage is 48 wide x 26 deep x 12 high. I would have gone deeper but was constrained by setback limits. I have two 16 x 10 doors on the 48 side, which is my only real choice by site limits.
 

jclem40c

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 16, 2010
Messages
130
Location
Liberty NY
the longer and the wider the better. When you move in it ain't gonna ever be big enough
no matter how long and wide it is.

John
 

Agent1320

Well-known member
Joined
Aug 5, 2011
Messages
398
Location
Texas
For automotive...wide. You don't see as many long repair shops as you do wide ones for a reason.

My shop is long and narrow, and I hate it. 3 cars inside when I could fit 4 if it were wider than it were long.
 

akdiesel

Well-known member
Joined
Aug 8, 2008
Messages
2,617
Location
Wasilla, AK
As said dimensional lumber will dictate the Best Bang for The Buck.
For those dimensions, wider will be better since you could not get most motor homes in the 36' span which would be a 35' inside typically and have room for egress/bench in front or back.
Most pickups today are 20' long and approx 8' wide with mirrors, so the 28' / 27' inside would be fine, and 35' inside gives you a 3 bay set up with plenty of room to work.
 
To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!

truckman5000

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 11, 2008
Messages
1,440
Id say both...

Ive always been a fan of wide 2 car with plenty of room, ( 25' +) with about a 15' + working area infront of a car.

Around here it gets cold, so the bigger the better im all about, but i dont want to heat more space than my house, for a car lol.

My garage is 24 wide by 38 deep. I didnt build.

Like said:
Roof trusses are "cheep" in the 24' veriety.
You can have a storage loft. With the 24' dimention (cost effective)
2 small width doors are cheeper than one pluss the header to support.


Its up to you, so "24" feet wide or deep. I HATE having 5 feet or less infront of a car to do a project. If parking, 24' deep is perfect. But not to restore cars ect.
Parking wise, you can get more cars in there. If wider.
I dont have the $$$ to just have cars, so i need the room to work.
 
OP
2

2Tall

Active member
Joined
Mar 4, 2012
Messages
33
Location
Ontario Canada
Thanks for all the info people! I think I will just stick to my original dimensions of 28x36, may even add one more truss and make it 28x38!
 

rsanter

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 22, 2007
Messages
18,496
Location
visalia ca
Width is for the number of vehicles
Depth if for shop work area and storage in front of the vehicles

Now do the math, how many vehicles verses how much stuff

Bob
 

Stuart in MN

Well-known member
Joined
Sep 8, 2005
Messages
23,052
Location
Minneapolis
I would go wide instead of deep. If you have vehicles that are used frequently, it's a pain to have to pull one car out to get to the one parked in the back.
 

KCarGuy

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 5, 2009
Messages
2,075
Location
50 miles outside Chicago, illinois
Mine is 30' wide and 25' deep.
I love having 30 feet from side to side...I wouldnt change that.
But, I wish That I would have gone 5' Deeper...I have a staircase, a Compressor Room and sandblaster that takes up some room on the back wall.
 

BigMike782

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 19, 2008
Messages
1,851
Location
49120
Whatever you do DO NOT build square!
My shop was here when I bought the house so I had no say in the build(32 x 32).I love my shop but if I could do it over I would build 28' deep and as wide as I cold afford.The other thing is I could never go back to 8' side walls after having a bldg with 10'.
The main rule of thumb for garages/shops is that the amount of room you build is inversely proportionate to the amount of stuff we have.
 

rmckee

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 2, 2012
Messages
457
Location
Wake Forest, NC
I often debate this with myself as to whether or not I'll do a 2-door barn in the 30 gable x 48 length variety, or flip it the other way and do 4-doors along the 48' side. I do believe as life goes on and the planning gets more secured, I'll be doing the latter of the two. The ability to have 4 vehicles readily accessible without playing tetris is a great selling point. The downsides are the extra cost for paving in front of the structure, and the 2 more overhead doors.

Once all that is said and done, however, I feel the wide layout is MUCH more open for change and reconfiguration. With 30 feet of depth there's also enough room to pull in a car and still fit the staircase in the corner to the loft (at least in 1 bay).
 

Outlawmws

Well-known member
Joined
Aug 9, 2011
Messages
39,159
Location
The Badlands
Well getting back to the original question...

Both have advantages, wider allows you more bays, but deeper allows a work area at the back, and its near the front of the vehicles.

Length of span, if you need to you can also have a support post or three, and beat the spans that might otherwise be an impediment, and a longer effective truss can be had with a multiple pitch roof line off of a steeper pitch.

You need to ask yourself what it is you would find more valuable for your planned activities and vehicles.
 

Doug B

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 24, 2008
Messages
1,236
Location
Schroon Lake, NY
Mine is deeper than wide.Mostly, as others have said,I like my work space ahead of the vehicle.But the real driving factor was snow removal. I knew it would have a metal roof,and I did not want the snow to slide off in front of the doors.
 

Attachments

  • newgarage3.jpg
    newgarage3.jpg
    79 KB · Views: 16
  • plow 2.JPG
    plow 2.JPG
    55.3 KB · Views: 13

kwb

Well-known member
Joined
May 1, 2009
Messages
1,771
Location
PNW
Deep and tall- but then again I like boats and snowmobiles.

Deep because trailers tend to be quite long, Tall because boats that are long enought to need the length also are usually up in the air aways.

It is never big enough no matter the size.

28' sounds too short - a typical pickup is ~21' long with many being longer, a bench and space to work it takes almost 5' and you need to be able to walk around the back without hitting shin/knee on the trailer ball.
 

dirttracker18

Well-known member
Joined
Aug 10, 2009
Messages
3,191
Location
Slate River, ON
Wide is good for minor vehicle repairs and parking. I went deep to have the option of pulling in an RV or trailer. My project goes at the back turned sideways still leaving room to pull my truck in. 30 wide and 36 deep.
 

NUTTSGT

Super Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Sep 14, 2009
Messages
50,891
Location
Northern Central Ohio
While some prefer one over the other for what ever reaason, you need to take something else into consideration.

What would look best on your property with your home ? What you want and what would look appropriate maybe be two different things. While making it the same size may not seem like a big thing ,it may be the reason or not you get it approved by the local officials, of course, if you have them.
 

mikegt4

Well-known member
Joined
Sep 12, 2005
Messages
3,265
Location
sw ohio
It all depends on your building site and what your intended usage it. If you are going to be moving cars in and out constantly then wide with a lot of doors is best. Longer term parking/projects allow a longer building. Site requirements play a major part too.

When I built my 26 x 48 x 10 about 15 years ago the truss price jumped considerably above 26'. I pre-built 16' wall sections and then just tilted them up on the foundation knee wall (2' high) 3 sections per side. 26' wide allows for fully opening vehicle doors even with storage down both side walls. I have two 8' tall doors in the front and a "carriage style" 12'w x 10' h door in the back which gives me a full ceiling height access as well as drive thru capability. An unexpected benefit of the rear door is that it can be opened in hot weather for excellent ventilation. I like it so much that I would not build another garage without a rear door of at least a standard 7 x 8 size.
 

Climber

Well-known member
Joined
Nov 9, 2010
Messages
130
Location
Pelham NH
Wide!
The depth of garage need to be determined by length of your longest vehicle plus few feet on front and back. Width - quantity of your vehicles (bay per car) plus one bay extra for work area.
Working area in-front of vehicle giving you restrictions. You constantly need to squeeze to get material, tools etc in and out.
For working area I'd like to use extra bay so not to go around car(s). Imagine caring 20 ft angle iron or 16 ft 2x6 wood through door, along the car to work area. And then try to to work with it in less then 15 ft zone.
Other considerations:
1. taxes: in my area we pay by square ft on number of doors. May be some towns are by number of bays.
2. cost: some guys mentioned cost of trusses; more doors cost more; larger opening for more doors is needed to have structurally better support... etc.
3. resale value: if in some point of your life you gona need to sale house - more bay garage have better value. Kitchen sales to wives, garages - to guys.
4. appearance: how it's going to look?
5. wider garage - wider driveway. More cost upfront but easier to turn on it; more guests can come and park.

Just my ideas ....
Do I miss any think?
 
To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!
Top Bottom