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FigN⋅m

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I looked on the HD web site, and clicked on Questions and Answers. Several answers say Vietnam.

Also on the zoro tools website, it says Vietnam in the Product Information section.

I sometimes go to ebay and find a seller who post both sides of the package.
I see one for pn# 48-22-6560 that is printed "Professionally Made in Vietnam"
 
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I’ve got the Sunex ones that have been posted a few times already. They work ok. My only complaint is they have quite a bit of handle flex, makes it hard to get a feel for how much pressure your actually putting in the hose. If I were a professional I would look for something better.
 

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So I opened my new Blue Point hose grip pliers today and I am a bit disappointed in them. First, they are made in China. Not a deal breaker but I thought Blue Point products were made in Taiwan, I guess not all of them. Second, they don't seem be very well made. The grinding on the flat sides where it says "China" is not consistent. The one in the center the grinding is sort of ok, the one on the bottom skews to the left and the one on top extends out more than the other two. Also the tips don't meet up evenly and the grinding on the rounds parts is looking chunky. If I had paid full price ($83.50 according to SO website) I'd be even more disappointed. Everything else seems fine about the pliers, decent handles and I am sure the steel is good quality but I expected the finish to be better considering the price. Any of you with BP pliers finding the same thing or is this uncommon? I thought they were going to be like the Icon hose pliers.

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Here are the Icon hose grip pliers for comparison. I thought I was going to get something along these lines of finish. I may just ditch the Blue Points and get something else for less. I'd love to get the ProAmerica's or Mac or even Milwaukee but that's just too much money for something I don't use often and just for DIY stuff. If I could get those IPS pliers for $15 maybe I could just do that but it seems they are going to $40 right now on Amazon.

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I may be missing out but i've found if you can not get the hose off with your hands, chances are it needed to be replace any so I use a razor blade and cut it off.
 

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So I opened my new Blue Point hose grip pliers today and I am a bit disappointed in them. First, they are made in China. Not a deal breaker but I thought Blue Point products were made in Taiwan, I guess not all of them. Second, they don't seem be very well made. The grinding on the flat sides where it says "China" is not consistent. The one in the center the grinding is sort of ok, the one on the bottom skews to the left and the one on top extends out more than the other two. Also the tips don't meet up evenly and the grinding on the rounds parts is looking chunky. If I had paid full price ($83.50 according to SO website) I'd be even more disappointed. Everything else seems fine about the pliers, decent handles and I am sure the steel is good quality but I expected the finish to be better considering the price. Any of you with BP pliers finding the same thing or is this uncommon? I thought they were going to be like the Icon hose pliers.

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Wow those bluepoint are a sloppy effort besides the diamond pattern teeth .
Bluepoint cheaped out quite a lot in recent times (wrenches old era vs new good representation of that).
You can find better on eBay if take time hunt & get bit of luck. I had a 6pc orange handle long reach pliers set off eBay some years back that had 3 hose pliers in the set & worked out just over 6 bucks each and general manufacture finish better than the bluepoint or icon .
I wouild return the bluepoint, use what you got while looking out for used MACs or fairly good manufacture cheap effort .
One thing this thread highlights is the HF 3pc set is very good value usable tool .
 

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Several years ago I went through a phase of replacing all the fuel lines on my old BMW, and got the Pittsburgh set. They were beyond worth the money, and made the job so much better. I can't recall my set ever having flash rust, but I tend to keep my tools straight. Anyway, I had one lone (rail to the hard line that was tucked in a spot I couldn't get to with the Pittsburgh, so I wound up with a set of the GearWrench double-hinge design. They worked great - the extra reach was perfect.
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The Pittsburgh set was roughly finished, but worked just fine. I ultimately gave them to a friend who was getting ready to so the same thing, and he was happy with them too.

I got the Icon short pair a while back for a different project. They're really nicely-made.
 

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Wow those bluepoint are a sloppy effort besides the diamond pattern teeth .
Bluepoint cheaped out quite a lot in recent times (wrenches old era vs new good representation of that).
You can find better on eBay if take time hunt & get bit of luck. I had a 6pc orange handle long reach pliers set off eBay some years back that had 3 hose pliers in the set & worked out just over 6 bucks each and general manufacture finish better than the bluepoint or icon .
I wouild return the bluepoint, use what you got while looking out for used MACs or fairly good manufacture cheap effort .
One thing this thread highlights is the HF 3pc set is very good value usable tool .
I can pretty much guarantee they didn't have a better finish than the Icon. The regular Pittsburgh set? I can see that, but not the Icon.
 

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Still can't find a hose pliers that will do small vacuum lines. The smallest size on all these long pliers seems to be 5/16, probably need something like 1/4 or smaller
 

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Dumb question: Do they forge the tips bent like that, or do they bend the tips after forging and then heat treat them for toughness? I can see benefits and drawbacks to both processes.
 

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Dumb question: Do they forge the tips bent like that, or do they bend the tips after forging and then heat treat them for toughness? I can see benefits and drawbacks to both processes.
looks to me from ones i have most are likely a additional process of bending from standard pliers forgings with teeth/jaws cut hence why they can be a bit hit and miss how well the ring formed .
 
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I got the Icon short pair a while back for a different project. They're really nicely-made.

Not only that, but the Icons make a *perfect* XLR plug holder if you wrap the jaws in a rubber band to make them an impromptu clamp.
I had that idea when I was soldering up a lot of microphone cables and boy howdy what a difference it made being able to hold the plug at a perfect soldering angle.

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Wow those look particularly poorly made for something costing that much and sold through SNA!
 

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Wow those look particularly poorly made for something costing that much and sold through SNA!

They are probably a chinese knock off. Everything you buy is suspect anymore...

Anything that is popular is ripe for a rip-off. Buy a product from cheap-junk.com and low-and-behold it's not from the OEM. I've seen stories about people buying Mitutoyo digital calipers from amazon and what they get is not the genuine product. It's a chinese knock off that looks close enough that the robots working in the warehouse stock the junk in the same bin as the good stuff... Shame!

I know the OP bought his used from faceialbook but where did they originate from?
 

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There are two tool categories where I think quality makes the biggest difference: screwdrivers and pliers. With most other tools "mid-grade" is surprisingly competitive with premium... however, I'm not sure that's the case with hose grip pliers:
  • The tips don't have to match because you don't hold anything with the tips.
  • The hardness of the jaws makes no difference when you're holding a rubber hose.
  • You don't need a ton of grip force because you'll just crush the hose anyway.
I like pretty tools as much as the next guy, but I have a cheap set of hose pliers and they work surprisingly well. They give me a lot more grip can I can do by hand and that's all they need to do.

I'm not out to yuck your yum, but I'm suspicious whether there's much to gain from expensive hose pliers. Use your savings to get a hose removal pick too. Oftentimes I find running a pick around the lip lets me pull a hose by hand easily.
 

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There are two tool categories where I think quality makes the biggest difference: screwdrivers and pliers. With most other tools "mid-grade" is surprisingly competitive with premium... however, I'm not sure that's the case with hose grip pliers:
  • The tips don't have to match because you don't hold anything with the tips.
  • The hardness of the jaws makes no difference when you're holding a rubber hose.
  • You don't need a ton of grip force because you'll just crush the hose anyway.
I like pretty tools as much as the next guy, but I have a cheap set of hose pliers and they work surprisingly well. They give me a lot more grip can I can do by hand and that's all they need to do.

I'm not out to yuck your yum, but I'm suspicious whether there's much to gain from expensive hose pliers. Use your savings to get a hose removal pick too. Oftentimes I find running a pick around the lip lets me pull a hose by hand easily.
Good points. For some tools, higher quality usually comes at a higher price, but here, there doesn't appear to a tremendous difference among brands, so I see no point into spending so much when HF or similar will do. Chances are, all of the Made in China pliers are coming out of the same factory anyway. Pro mechanics might want to spend more if they are using them daily, but at that point you are pre-paying for a warranty replacement.
 

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There are two tool categories where I think quality makes the biggest difference: screwdrivers and pliers. With most other tools "mid-grade" is surprisingly competitive with premium... however, I'm not sure that's the case with hose grip pliers:
  • The tips don't have to match because you don't hold anything with the tips.
  • The hardness of the jaws makes no difference when you're holding a rubber hose.
  • You don't need a ton of grip force because you'll just crush the hose anyway.
I like pretty tools as much as the next guy, but I have a cheap set of hose pliers and they work surprisingly well. They give me a lot more grip can I can do by hand and that's all they need to do.

I'm not out to yuck your yum, but I'm suspicious whether there's much to gain from expensive hose pliers. Use your savings to get a hose removal pick too. Oftentimes I find running a pick around the lip lets me pull a hose by hand easily.
That's reasonable to expect from 10-20$ pliers. But if you spend 80$ I think they should be made a lot better. The set of the two long Knipex pliers is cheaper at that point...
 

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Dumb question: Do they forge the tips bent like that, or do they bend the tips after forging and then heat treat them for toughness? I can see benefits and drawbacks to both processes.
They almost certainly bend the tips after forging.
The plier pieces are likely forged,
machined and ground,
The jaws would then be serrated/checkered,
And then the tow halves are either riveted together, with the tips bent once riveted,
Or for hose style jaws, the tips may be heated up and reshaped before assembly, then the two halves riveted.
Once assembled and bent, some additional sanding and grinding may be done to clean up the pliers.
Then brand etching or stamping.
Handles are probably dipped after all this, but could be dipped before hand if the pliers don’t need to be filly heat treated and annealed after final jaw bending.
 

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Hello all, just wanted to provide a follow up to my hose grip pliers search. If you are a DIY guy or not looking to spend a lot of money on these type of pliers just get the Pittsburgh's like the OP said. I sold the Blue Point's because for the price, I was expecting a better finished product. I was about to get a set from HF because they were better looking than the Titan's and only $15 without a sale. I then spotted these pliers on offerup for $5! He originally wanted to $10 but I guess there were no takers so he slashed the price to $5 and he was just a few minutes away so I snatched them up. The pliers where a bit rusty so I hit them with a scotchbrite prep wheel and shined them up. I used sand paper on the blue pliers and got a better result. They look much nicer with the rusty crud all gone. Side note- don't use a buffing wheel on them if you don't know what you are doing like me. I'll eventually hit them all with sandpaper to make them look nicer and help keep the rust at bay. Anyway, the Pittsburgh's seem fine and up the task of removing some hoses especially for DIY needs. I think someone in the comments said basically the same thing, so I am just repeating that advice. Thanks
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