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First thing I noticed is how hard it is just to open a drawer just because of the new crappy locking system on the drawers. No way I would buy one because of that main reason. I also liked the smaller drawers on the series 2.
No way in hell they are worth the price increase. 399.00 for a lower NO WAY.
 
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First thing I noticed is how hard it is just to open a drawer just because of the new crappy locking system on the drawers. No way I would buy one because of that main reason. I also liked the smaller drawers on the series 2.
No way in hell they are worth the price increase. 399.00 for a lower NO WAY.
The drawer latching system can easily be removed. Not sure if the slides also have detents like on my 56" Series 2 boxes?

I'm with you on not much liking the Series 3, but I think we're in the minorty.
 
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It’s not a top of the line box but certainly isn’t a top of the line price. I have a 46” series 1 and a 56” series 2. Even at full price for series 3, I’m not seeing anything out there that compares. My business partner has a couple big snap on boxes. He picked them up used (repos from guys who couldn’t pay) they are definitely better boxes by a huge margin but even used and years ago, they were 5X the price of mine sold new. I just use mine for hobby and his are in a production environment so there’s every reason to pay for the upgrade but again, that’s not apples to apples.
 
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I've had my 56" Gen 3 roller and top chest for about a month. I'm still moving tools into the box so I haven't "lived" with it very long.

After having a 26" Craftsman box for almost 30 years I was used to detent drawer closure. These weren't perfect as sometimes the drawers would start sliding open when I rolled the box around. The Gen 3 system of reaching under the handle, pulling to the left, and pulling to open has taken some getting used to. But at this point I'm comfortable with it. Some people may find it more of a pain than I have.

As for the price, I didn't think it was too much of a hit for what I was getting. If it lasts as long as the Craftsman I'll have gotten my money out of it.
 

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Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't understand the price difference between the 56" and 72" series 3 boxes.
Regular (non-sale) price of the 56" is $900. Regular price of 72" is $1800. The boxes seem identical, with the exception of 72" having the built in small end cabinet size drawers at the left end of the box. The rest of the box appears to be the same between boxes. The separate end cabinet by itself is $280, so a 56" ($900) with end cabinet ($280) totals $1180. Why buy basically the same thing in the 72" for $1800? That's $620 more for the same drawer configuration. Makes no sense to me, or am I missing something here?
 

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First thing I noticed is how hard it is just to open a drawer just because of the new crappy locking system on the drawers. No way I would buy one because of that main reason. I also liked the smaller drawers on the series 2.
No way in hell they are worth the price increase. 399.00 for a lower NO WAY.
The Full Bank was the first USG with the new latching system. I've had mine for a couple years. I was coming from a 5-drawer with the old-style latches. I was beyond out of space with the 5-drawer, and at the time didn't want to do a 44" as I didn't want another horizontal space to collect stuff, so I went with the the Full Bank with some concerns.

The drawers and latch both improve with weight in them and maybe a bit over time as well. I've had it now for a couple years, and been super-happy with it overall.

Now I'm running out of space again, so I've got a 56" arriving in the next week or two, and I bought the hutch for it this morning. It's over 30% more lay-down space not counting the charging and power tool drawers, and I'll have some things in the hutch on magnet bars (much like I already do on the Full Bank). I've got zero worries about the Series 3 stuff.

That's $620 more for the same drawer configuration. Makes no sense to me, or am I missing something here?
You're not missing anything - it's the running mystery. I can't think of any reason the 72" is better than the 56"+Side Drawer is the ability to use a hutch. I think they'll eventually drop the price $200-$300. I kinda wonder if it's their way to keep demand down a bit on them and not pull the legs out from the Icon.
 
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I was hoping for a GripLatch locking system or something similar. I’ve never been a huge fan of the lock and roll system or whatever it’s called. I’m also a little bummed about the drawer layout. The Series 3 seems more geared to power tools and big storage systems. That being said, I have nothing but good things to say about my 5 drawer cart. If I were to add another garage box at the house I wouldn’t hesitate to jump on a Series 3.
 

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First thing I noticed is how hard it is just to open a drawer just because of the new crappy locking system on the drawers. No way I would buy one because of that main reason. I also liked the smaller drawers on the series 2.
No way in hell they are worth the price increase. 399.00 for a lower NO WAY.
I have been looking at the Series 3 very seriously. The 34" Cart has had those latches since it came out and gets solid reviews, I don't think the 44" is as good of a deal as it was, but the 56" with the power drawer is a solid deal. If it wasn't the holidays there would be one in my shop already, weird latches or not.
 

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I was hoping for a GripLatch locking system or something similar. I’ve never been a huge fan of the lock and roll system or whatever it’s called. I’m also a little bummed about the drawer layout. The Series 3 seems more geared to power tools and big storage systems. That being said, I have nothing but good things to say about my 5 drawer cart. If I were to add another garage box at the house I wouldn’t hesitate to jump on a Series 3.
It’s fantastic on Snap On boxes. My ancient KRL just needs a light, seamless motion, anywhere along the drawer pull.

We talk a lot about the HF boxes and for the money, they are just great. But wrong to leap to the conclusion that they are great boxes. They are not. Regardless of how much their drawers can or cannot hold, there is something almost inexplicably better about KRLs. The way the drawers move, the way the latches are, they just feel the way you want them to.

Every time I’m in a HF, I desperately want to like the US General boxes, but I just don’t. I guess I feel spoiled having used Snap On boxes. The Epics at work are pretty next level.
 
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I've been wanting a top box for my HF 44 for a while now (I think I have the series 2). I see the series 3 is now 42" wide instead of 44", and it has 3 less drawers for the bottom box (10 vs. 13).

But the two stores in my city only have ONE 56" S3 box. That's it. That's the way it's been since early this spring. I even stopped at a HF in the next town over last weekend and it was the same. There are zero other boxes on the floor, and no 4 or 5 drawer carts either. It's like they gave up on display boxes and just want you to order blind.

I think HF has made the US General boxes less desirable, and at a higher cost. It really makes me consider just finding a nice used tool truck brand, or looking at the Husky HD, Milwaukee, or similar offerings.
 
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Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't understand the price difference between the 56" and 72" series 3 boxes.
Regular (non-sale) price of the 56" is $900. Regular price of 72" is $1800. The boxes seem identical, with the exception of 72" having the built in small end cabinet size drawers at the left end of the box. The rest of the box appears to be the same between boxes. The separate end cabinet by itself is $280, so a 56" ($900) with end cabinet ($280) totals $1180. Why buy basically the same thing in the 72" for $1800? That's $620 more for the same drawer configuration. Makes no sense to me, or am I missing something here?
That observation between the 56” & 72” is correct. The same 52” wide top drawers and 37” center drawers. The 72” at current pricing makes the 56” look like the better buy.
 

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The Full Bank was the first USG with the new latching system. I've had mine for a couple years. I was coming from a 5-drawer with the old-style latches. I was beyond out of space with the 5-drawer, and at the time didn't want to do a 44" as I didn't want another horizontal space to collect stuff, so I went with the the Full Bank with some concerns.

The drawers and latch both improve with weight in them and maybe a bit over time as well. I've had it now for a couple years, and been super-happy with it overall.

Now I'm running out of space again, so I've got a 56" arriving in the next week or two, and I bought the hutch for it this morning. It's over 30% more lay-down space not counting the charging and power tool drawers, and I'll have some things in the hutch on magnet bars (much like I already do on the Full Bank). I've got zero worries about the Series 3 stuff.
Got the same storage issues but the other way around. Looking to add the 34” to my Series 3 56” and unload the old 30yr old 26” Craftsman x2 to make room.
 

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I was hoping for a GripLatch locking system or something similar. I’ve never been a huge fan of the lock and roll system or whatever it’s called. I’m also a little bummed about the drawer layout. The Series 3 seems more geared to power tools and big storage systems. That being said, I have nothing but good things to say about my 5 drawer cart. If I were to add another garage box at the house I wouldn’t hesitate to jump on a Series 3.
If you like the 5-drawer, I'd bet you'd love the Full Bank. That's what my Full Bank replaced and other than outgrowing it I've loved it.
We talk a lot about the HF boxes and for the money, they are just great. But wrong to leap to the conclusion that they are great boxes. They are not. Regardless of how much their drawers can or cannot hold, there is something almost inexplicably better about KRLs. The way the drawers move, the way the latches are, they just feel the way you want them to.
I think it's silly for HF to compare the USG stuff to Snap On, but it is what it is. Icon is easily a more-direct comparison. That said, for home use I'm not devoting the money to an Icon box, much less the crazy SO money.
I've been wanting a top box for my HF 44 for a while now (I think I have the series 2). I see the series 3 is now 42" wide instead of 44", and it has 3 less drawers for the bottom box (10 vs. 13).

But the two stores in my city only have ONE 56" S3 box. That's it. That's the way it's been since early this spring. I even stopped at a HF in the next town over last weekend and it was the same. There are zero other boxes on the floor, and no 4 or 5 drawer carts either. It's like they gave up on display boxes and just want you to order blind.

I think HF has made the US General boxes less desirable, and at a higher cost. It really makes me consider just finding a nice used tool truck brand, or looking at the Husky HD, Milwaukee, or similar offerings.
I think the 42"/44" are the same, but they changed the way they were quoting measurements. It's covered on one of the SEMA videos.

Given how many colors they carry now, I don't think they're keeping a ton of the bigger stuff in stock. My store has a fair number of the 4/5 drawer carts in stock, though it's been up and down - they've been on sale a lot.

FWIW, the last time I eyeballed the Husky/Milwaukee/etc. stuff, they were still a big step down in terms of build, caster quality and weight capacity. They invest more in the soft-close drawers and stuff IGAF about.
 

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Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't understand the price difference between the 56" and 72" series 3 boxes.
Regular (non-sale) price of the 56" is $900. Regular price of 72" is $1800. The boxes seem identical, with the exception of 72" having the built in small end cabinet size drawers at the left end of the box. The rest of the box appears to be the same between boxes. The separate end cabinet by itself is $280, so a 56" ($900) with end cabinet ($280) totals $1180. Why buy basically the same thing in the 72" for $1800? That's $620 more for the same drawer configuration. Makes no sense to me, or am I missing something here?

The Full Bank was the first USG with the new latching system. I've had mine for a couple years. I was coming from a 5-drawer with the old-style latches. I was beyond out of space with the 5-drawer, and at the time didn't want to do a 44" as I didn't want another horizontal space to collect stuff, so I went with the the Full Bank with some concerns.

The drawers and latch both improve with weight in them and maybe a bit over time as well. I've had it now for a couple years, and been super-happy with it overall.

Now I'm running out of space again, so I've got a 56" arriving in the next week or two, and I bought the hutch for it this morning. It's over 30% more lay-down space not counting the charging and power tool drawers, and I'll have some things in the hutch on magnet bars (much like I already do on the Full Bank). I've got zero worries about the Series 3 stuff.


You're not missing anything - it's the running mystery. I can't think of any reason the 72" is better than the 56"+Side Drawer is the ability to use a hutch. I think they'll eventually drop the price $200-$300. I kinda wonder if it's their way to keep demand down a bit on them and not pull the legs out from the Icon.
Or get the 27" roller for almost the same price as the side drawer.!!!
 

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Or get the 27" roller for almost the same price as the side drawer.!!!
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that configuration of 56 and 27 makes close to a 84" box for sensible coin (wait for deals/coupons and you at the 1K mark), also creates a good variety of drawer sizes/depths .
I think the series2 was nicer boxes in many ways & certainly nicer prices .
 

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Hopefully HF is just testing the market for the Series 3 and will eventually start offering better sales and discounts to get them closer to Series 2 pricing. ~$400ish is my hope. For reference I bought my Series 2 44 for $350 before the pandemic. I am digging the extra full length drawer.
 

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Hopefully HF is just testing the market for the Series 3 and will eventually start offering better sales and discounts to get them closer to Series 2 pricing. ~$400ish is my hope. For reference I bought my Series 2 44 for $350 before the pandemic. I am digging the extra full length drawer.
I've got a 25% no exclusions coupon in my email that would put the 42" box down to $450+ tax. I'd say thats not to bad post-pandemic
 

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I've got a 25% no exclusions coupon in my email that would put the 42" box down to $450+ tax. I'd say thats not to bad post-pandemic
Or the 56 for $675 like I got last week. I think the 56" is the best deal unless you don't have the space.
 

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I'm going to start with the 56" and add on as needed. Maybe a locker since my shop has none. I have 3 big government surplus cabinets at have and they are great but don't really want t to got hat route over there.
 

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I may check out the 42" next time I'm by HF. Looks like it might make a nice cart.
If that is the 6 drawer cart for 599 , it's pretty damn nice for the money
I had the same style in snapon and sold it a few years ago, regrettably, now I want to replace it but not for 2k
Thinking about getting one myself
 

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If that is the 6 drawer cart for 599 , it's pretty damn nice for the money
I had the same style in snapon and sold it a few years ago, regrettably, now I want to replace it but not for 2k
Thinking about getting one myself

The 6 drawer cart is a bit deeper than the snap-on offerings, 24"?, but only 36 wide. So it's more of a square than the snap on units. Definitely better than the smaller KRSC carts. I saw plenty of the 32x20 KRSC carts get sold to young guys, I'd get the $600 HF over that. Actually at the time I bought a ~$600 Montezuma which was tragically discontinued.


I have the 40x20 KRSC flip top. If they made a 40x24 with the all 4" drawers + a 6" I would order it tomorrow. The epiq sidekick, while hideously expensive, is just too deep for where I work. 24" is about the most I could wheel around through the tight areas. That and the two narrow drawers at the top I have no use for. The rock-n-roll guys claimed they could swap the drawers out, but I wasn't so sure as their price quote on the unit didn't have extra pieces added on, just the part number. Of course 5k for the super-cart was a LOT less than the mr. big I priced! No thanks, I'll stick with KRLs and KRSCs, thanks.

EDIT: HF cart is actually 34x23, same price as the series 3 44x22 box.
 
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