Looking for a new blast cabinet

[jonjon1]

I have a 34" snap on cabinet I have had for years, I am sick of having to take stuff to my uncles shop and use his 40" cabinet. and I like the side door because I can stick in a long piece like a driveshaft and tape some plastic to the side then just flip it around when I have to do the other side...


SO I am looking for 40" side door, decent brand, I don't have to buy the best in the world, but no harbor freight garbage..

leaning towards this one, not sure if there are any other options..
http://www.tptools.com/SKAT-CAT-40-Abrasive-Blast-Cabinet-Limited-Edition,8291.html?b=d*8015

 

[matt_i]

Always have liked Trinco. Solidly made, made in Michigan.

 

[bgarrett]

you can make one out of one sheet of plywood

 

[jonjon1]

you can make one out of one sheet of plywood

lol, you have pics?

I can make one out of a sheet of metal too, doesn't mean I want to, lol..

 

[txvwnut]

Believe it or not the HF blast cabinet is a decent cab for the money but it is too small for what you want. It's only short coming is the gun and for that you just get the TP Tools gun upgrade kit. I don't think you will have any problems out of that Skat blast unit, TP Tools is a member here.

 

[BADSIX]

google Tip sandblasting ,Tip Tools or **** Blast, and start drooling . we have a large **** Blast cabinet at work, real nice good heavy duty cabinet. Tip use to have plans to build your own from plywood I used the plans but made mine out of 14 ga. steel.
Jay D.

 

[jonjon1]

Believe it or not the HF blast cabinet is a decent cab for the money but it is too small for what you want. It's only short coming is the gun and for that you just get the TP Tools gun upgrade kit. I don't think you will have any problems out of that Skat blast unit, TP Tools is a member here.

Does tp offer member discounts, lol..

 

[Tim Kennedy]

abs-products.com ---- expensive -- built like a tank --- primarily soda blasters -- they offer a lot of different items

 

[ascott172]

Blast-it-all.com

 

[gnpenning]

Check with TP, they were giving free plans to members here. Lots of good reviews.

 

[MichaelBikel]

here is my WIP, it cost me nothing as the wood was free and I also got free 1x1 tubing to make a stand for it. All I have to figure out is a better alternative to my HF gun which is what I ran in my last blaster. I have also seen some people make them from old oil tanks which is an awesome alternative as I see them on craigslist all the time for free..

[/url]IMG_7046 by MichaelBikel, on Flickr[/IMG]

 

[dodge610]

I have a 34" snap on cabinet I have had for years, I am sick of having to take stuff to my uncles shop and use his 40" cabinet. and I like the side door because I can stick in a long piece like a driveshaft and tape some plastic to the side then just flip it around when I have to do the other side...


SO I am looking for 40" side door, decent brand, I don't have to buy the best in the world, but no harbor freight garbage..

leaning towards this one, not sure if there are any other options..
http://www.tptools.com/SKAT-CAT-40-Abrasive-Blast-Cabinet-Limited-Edition,8291.html?b=d*8015

That cabinet will do you well I have the 970 skat blast with the add on extension. That will work perfect put the ext. ca on it no plastic needed just blast the whole drive shaft with door closed. PM me with questions if you have any.

 

[coljar]

I have the TP tools 960 cabinet and it's perfect my needs.

 

[countryroad82]

I have a TP Tools either 970 or 979, it's early, don't have all my coffee in lol. But anyway I love it. It's one of those things I didn't think I would use all too often, but I find myself using more than I ever thought I would! If I were to do it over I would have went just a touch bigger, but I do a lot of bigger jobs. Another thing I've been debating is put another set of gloves in to help reach some of those awkward jobs.

 

[txvwnut]

here is my WIP, it cost me nothing as the wood was free and I also got free 1x1 tubing to make a stand for it. All I have to figure out is a better alternative to my HF gun which is what I ran in my last blaster. I have also seen some people make them from old oil tanks which is an awesome alternative as I see them on craigslist all the time for free..

[/url]IMG_7046 by MichaelBikel, on Flickr[/IMG]

I know I sound like a broken record but... TP Tools will have everything you need for a gun setup.

 

[jonjon1]

I called TP, SO FAR NOT IMPRESSED, I am still looking for a brand, but how I was just talked to on the phone doesn't make me want to send them my money, lol... Just short, I was going to buy 2 of them over the phone, but I think I will keep looking, lol.

anyone know anything about cyclone cabinets, looks like they are competitively priced and after how my phone call just went I would maybe even pay a bit more for one that isnt from TP tools, lol. http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Cyclone...binet-Glass-Bead-Media-USA-MADE-/281581151839

I like the clamshell and side door design, that is nice, for parts you dont want to feed in through the side door...


OK, so it looks like I can get that 48" cyclone which is a couple inches longer and has the clam shell design, foot pedal, and vac with side door, delivered for $1300 OR the blemished 960 for $1330 delivered..

The cclone says 16ga cabinet and the skat says 11-20, so not sure how to take that?



Or this one here, http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200347897_200347897

 

[jnyost]

Love my TP Tools Skat Blast Cabinet. The HF doesn't compare. They sell all of the parts you would need for it also. Great company.

 

[senlow]

TP Tools makes a great product for the price. I use their gun in my Kansas Instruments blaster. If you need something better, I highly recommend the Zero Blast-N-Peen from Clemco Industries Corp. It's the best suction feed blast cabinet that I've used.

 

[coljar]

I called TP, SO FAR NOT IMPRESSED, I am still looking for a brand, but how I was just talked to on the phone doesn't make me want to send them my money, lol... Just short, I was going to buy 2 of them over the phone, but I think I will keep looking, lol.

anyone know anything about cyclone cabinets, looks like they are competitively priced and after how my phone call just went I would maybe even pay a bit more for one that isnt from TP tools, lol. http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Cyclone...binet-Glass-Bead-Media-USA-MADE-/281581151839

I like the clamshell and side door design, that is nice, for parts you dont want to feed in through the side door...


OK, so it looks like I can get that 48" cyclone which is a couple inches longer and has the clam shell design, foot pedal, and vac with side door, delivered for $1300 OR the blemished 960 for $1330 delivered..

The cclone says 16ga cabinet and the skat says 11-20, so not sure how to take that?



Or this one here, http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200347897_200347897

Hmm, I've dealt with them at their store and on the phone. They've always been nice and very easy to deal with. When I need questions answered, they take their time and make sure I understand what they're telling me. Maybe you got that one guy that works at every company that's a PITA.

 

[jnyost]

Hmm, I've dealt with them at their store and on the phone. They've always been nice and very easy to deal with. When I need questions answered, they take their time and make sure I understand what they're telling me. Maybe you got that one guy that works at every company that's a PITA.

Agreed. TP was heads above everyone else when I was calling around.

 

[jonjon1]

Agreed. TP was heads above everyone else when I was calling around.

Yah, I called, and spoke with a women who was just trying to get me off of the phone, I was telling her they had a cabinet on ebay marked "paint blemished" for 1199, and she said it not a foot pedal machine, so I told her it showed a foot pedal and said foot pedal in the listing, and she was just tough to deal with, I offered the auction number and she was short saying "I HAE THEM RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME" I was trying to be polite and was, but she was making it hard.

No big deal, I just don't think I will buy their cabinets now, it looks like we are up to buying 3 now, my cousin wants a smaller one, my neighbors son wants a 60", and one for me.

It looks like I can get the 48" cyclone for under $1250 shipped, it looks like a decent machine, people say good things about them, I am going to do a little more research and see where we end up...

Is anyone familiar with cyclone units, I like the clamshell design..

 

[ZRX61]

I was going to say TP, I have a 960, but you already pissed in that bowl of cheerios

 

[600SL]

I'm looking into one of these myself. Question I have is foot pedal verses trigger. Why would I want a foot pedal over a hand trigger?

I will be following this thread. I might even make one.

 

[countryroad82]

I'm looking into one of these myself. Question I have is foot pedal verses trigger. Why would I want a foot pedal over a hand trigger?

I will be following this thread. I might even make one.

Trigger is just that, squeeze it. Stand/sit at a cabinet for hours on end if you have a lot of **** to blast and it will get to you after awhile. Foot pedal you can just mash the pedal to blast, the wand inside your not having to squeeze on it plus guide it. Basically it boils down to comfort. Foot pedals are easier on the hands if you blast for a long time, trust me you will. Know why? You will find you can clean up all sorts of **** with a cabinet!

As for somebody having a hard time with TP, that's how I got my cabinet is from eBay as it was scratch and dent. I think it was a manager or something I talked to and he was a hoot to talk to. Great service from those folks! Oh and btw when you buy scratch and dent from them, I had to look for the scratch on mine........ and I still think that was done in shipping........

 

[coljar]

I'm looking into one of these myself. Question I have is foot pedal verses trigger. Why would I want a foot pedal over a hand trigger?

I will be following this thread. I might even make one.

As Countryroad said above, it's a comfort thing. Kind of like painting with a spray can. Your fingers get tired after a while, and when you're cleaning more than one item, you will appreciate the foot pedal.

 

[jonjon1]

As for somebody having a hard time with TP, that's how I got my cabinet is from eBay as it was scratch and dent. I think it was a manager or something I talked to and he was a hoot to talk to. Great service from those folks! Oh and btw when you buy scratch and dent from them, I had to look for the scratch on mine........ and I still think that was done in shipping........

I wish you knew his name, the women a spoke with was short rushing me off the phone ad didn't know much of anything. All I said was the reserve is never met, I bid and the reserve isnt met, so tell me the reserve and I will buy it over the phone right now, you save the ebay fees on $1500, I save a few bucks not using buy it now, and everyone is happy, NOPE. She said "just use buy it now, thats the price we will sell it for" where I see they sold in the past for less with the reserve met.....

Maybe I called at the wrong time of day, who knows, but with someone like that running the phones, I can tell you they have to be losing business here and there.

Not sure which way I am going yet, still collecting info on the cyclone...

 

[countryroad82]

Go look up Fritz Ohio (I think thats the handle), he's I believe either the owner or a higher up. He's on here, send him a PM and I'm sure he will work with you within reason. Like I said I have nothing to do with them as of affiliation, but I have had great service with them in the past. Maybe you caught that chick at the wrong time of day with a bad case of 'don't give a dangs'. Who knows. But they are a great outfit to deal with, next time I'm up north I plan to take a stroll through their showroom plus pick up a few bags of Skat Blast and save me some shipping. I love that stuff!!

 

[jonjon1]

OH My GOD, THAT WAS SOOOO F#CKING PAINFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just bit the bullet and ordered from TP, I figured, screw it, I will buy it through ebay, and I wont have to deal with them, it will just show up...

NO, you have to call them to get the invoice, ebay wouldnt let me pay with out contacting them, so I get the same women, who is probably a nice person, but I deal with people all day and she sounds like she is chewing her face when she talks, I tried 2 different computers, 2 different ebay accounts and had one of my guys try it in case I was just blind today.

I don't know if it was an ebay hiccup or what but finally I was able to complete the purchase, the gentleman on the phone said shipping was $130 but she said $290, so I just paid the $290 which is what it says on the website, to her defense, it was the bad info I got form the person who transferred me to her.

I don't know why that stressed me out, I did $1.6m in sales this year and I think looking for a blast cabinet was the most stress I had since mid january, lol...

ANYWAY, I bought the wide 985 cabinet, its got the foot pedal and 2 windows, I figured if I am getting a new cabinet, may as well just get the largest one (well not the largest one, a company I installed the hvac for had a cabinet that was about 100 sq feet inside, lol, it had stations all around it and the top lifted off with a hoist on the ceiling and moved to the side so another hoist could drop HUGE parts on it...)...

72"s should let me do about everything I ever blast inside with out having to set up a tarp and do it in the parking lot, figure a bumper support for a 70 super bee is 66"s and thats about the largest piece I will ever have to do, I am thinking I may even be able to fit a bench seat frame in there after its all stripped down....


Ill keep you guys posts, for the record, it cost me $2189 shipped...

 

[coljar]

Oh well, pain is only temporary. You'll be happy with the purchase when you see how well it's made.

 

[matt_i]

I would buy an extra pair of gloves and a few of the mylar liners for the window. Those are things that would mess up your day when you're hot into a job and the glove gets a hole or the liner goes too cloudy to continue.

I would also do a synthetic oil change on your air compressor. Blast cabinet will make it run nonstop if you have a pile of parts to do.

 

[jonjon1]

thanks matt, I have a cabinet now, just replacing it, should use about the same air, if not less, the snap on said 20cfm.

I will make the liners myself and duct tape them up like I did with my SO cabinet, I can buy a roll of mylar and duct tape cheap (I have a about 50ft of it)... The gloves are a good point, I may order an extra set, but I have had my so cabinet for a while and still using the original gloves, probably ready for a set, but no holes..

I use royal purple compressor oil in all my units, I currently have 2 compressors hooked to my attached garage, 1 is just a cheap 14cfm 3hp 60 gallon unit and the other is an odd compressor it has 2 - 1 horse power motors on it, with 2 -2 cylinder single stage horizontal opposition pumps on it... Also has a dryer on it, but I use an 80 gallon tank with a dryer on the top of it for my dryer, so for the attached garage, I have 170 gallons of storage, and the dual 1hp unit makes around 14crm @100 and the other one is about 13cfm @100...

So I think I am about 27cfm between the two of them, they fill all 3 tanks to 100 psi in about 325 seconds, they are all hooked together, and all in different locations, lol its a weird setup, I have the 60ga in a shed with a buried air line going to the pool house and to my attached garage, then the double compressor is in the garage and the air drier tank is opposite of it... BUT I have plenty of air, I have a 24 hp gas compressor too that I sometimes hook to it if I have a couple da's going at once..

In my work garage I have a quincy/baldor unit that i built, it makes PLENTY of air...

 

[countryroad82]

I wish I had bought the very same one you just bought, mainly due to it having duel gloves, that way you can work better with weird angles. I've been debating on modifying mine to be able to do so. But anyway the pain will soon go away once you throw a rusty crudded up piece and soon bring out nice clean and ready to paint.

The liners, yes keep spares. Gloves, mines going on 8-9 years old and they're still in good shape....... But I don't blast my gloved hands when I'm blasting. Get either porcelain or titanium tips and keep an eye one them as you blast.

Other than having to talk with Mrs. Personality I don't think you will be disappointed! Congrats bub!

 

[chrispyny]

I have a cyclone ft-3522 i got for sale for $110 on clist. It was and is in excellent condition. I have it plumbed to my quincy qt-7.5 80 gallon 2 stage compressor. It does everything i ask it to do. Cyclones are perfectly fine in my opinion. Just fyi, cause you were considering one.

 

[jonjon1]

I wish I had bought the very same one you just bought, mainly due to it having duel gloves, that way you can work better with weird angles. I've been debating on modifying mine to be able to do so. But anyway the pain will soon go away once you throw a rusty crudded up piece and soon bring out nice clean and ready to paint.

The liners, yes keep spares. Gloves, mines going on 8-9 years old and they're still in good shape....... But I don't blast my gloved hands when I'm blasting. Get either porcelain or titanium tips and keep an eye one them as you blast.

Other than having to talk with Mrs. Personality I don't think you will be disappointed! Congrats bub!

Thanks thats what I was thinking, I was considering at least a 40" but then when I started thinking about it, the largest pieces I do are the k frames, seat frames, and bumper brackets, so if getting the larger cabinet means I don't have to set up outside anymore, then I am OK with that...

ALTHOUGH I will still have to do rear ends, out there, I dont think I will be getting a dana 60 into the cabinet, lol, I would fit, but feeding it in and flipping it around may be touch, lol...

 

[jonjon1]

So it looks like she gets here tomorrow, we shall see what she is made outta, I have a chrome 70 road runner front and rear bumper I want to blast front and back, I am going to paint them lime light green to match the car, the chrome was stripped a while back by the guy i bought them off of, and now they are rusty, should be able to blow them clean, por 15 the backs, polyester primer the fronts, sand them a bit, and shoot the color... Make a good weekend project for me...

 

[Antique Engine]

Anyone who calls TP and needs to speak to a good guy, just ask for Carmen.

He sold me a big Champion air compressor and a string of blasting cabinets over the years as my shop has grown. Perfect transactions every time.

 

[jonjon1]

WELL, I got my cabinet, and it looks good, a bit beat up from shipping, but its a blasting cabinet, not entering it in any shows, the issue now is I have no lights or gun, they sent me media, and a vac, with the cabinet, thats it... SO I can not use it yet, well thats not true, I put in half of one of the boxes of media and used the gun from my old cabinet just stuck the pickup down in there, it works like my old cabinet, just larger, BUT thats because I am using my snap on gun, lol....


I emailed them twice since saturday, I will call after the holiday if they dont get back to me by then, maybe I will ask for carmen, thanks

 

[James E]

I replaced the gloves on my Skat Blast cabinet a couple of years ago. Had that unit for at least ten years before they went bad. It wasn't the fingers that went, they wore through where the gloves connect to the cabinet. I guess there's more stress and rubbing there than at the fingers. I sprayed my hands all the time when I was doing small parts.

 

[jonjon1]

OK so I spoke with a gentleman from TP today, very nice guy, (Who ever the women that I spoke to before was just not nice, I guess, and 2 other members PM'd me to say they also got a women on the phone who was "short" and "mean", lol....)

Seems they sent me 2 boxes of media instead of one, (which they are letting me keep , free box of media for me, not too shabby) and they are getting my parts out today or tomorrow, which is awesome. So it looks like I will be using my cabinet soon, luckily I am not in a rush, lol...

I will post some pics when I get this thing all together... It seems everyone else I speak with at tp is great and easy to deal with, while that women I caught a few times was just.... NOT... lol..