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Joe Reed

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Definitely the fridge. There's no way the floor near it should be 95 degrees. Check all around the fridge in your kitchen and you'll see it's nowhere close to that. If it were, your kitchen would be noticeably warmer than the rest of the house. I wonder if it's possible for the defrost heaters to be stuck on....and the compressor running overtime to make up the difference? You're probably wasting a great deal of electricity running that kind of heat source in the garage - then running AC to try to offset it...
 
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Definitely the fridge. There's no way the floor near it should be 95 degrees. Check all around the fridge in your kitchen and you'll see it's nowhere close to that. If it were, your kitchen would be noticeably warmer than the rest of the house. I wonder if it's possible for the defrost heaters to be stuck on....and the compressor running overtime to make up the difference? You're probably wasting a great deal of electricity running that kind of heat source in the garage - then running AC to try to offset it...

This is a used unit anyway so it's not a huge loss if there is something wrong with it.

Just to recap a few things.

The insulation in this house is late 80's contractor grade, so ****. We've lived here 16 years and completely renovated/remodeled everything. About the only thing I haven't changed/fixed is the wall insulation.

North side: 90% of the front are the garage doors. they were replaced a couple of years ago. new ones are much better insulated. noticeable difference in the winter.

West side: walls insulated. 3/4 of the wall is shared with interior of house. rest is shared with front porch area

East side. all open to outside. hardie plank siding. one man door that is half glass. 9x9 single pane glass lites. blinds over glass inside. one window that is modern double pane glass filled, UV protection. blinds over window.

South side: 1/2 wall shared with interior of house. 1/2 exposed.

2nd floor above is mostly heated/cooled space. There is a pocket where roof pitch forms a small enclosed area that is not heated/cooled. Maybe 16 sq ft.

10k portable A/C and wall fan is making a big difference but I suspect 10k is still too small. It seems like it is just keeping up and no more. Suspect I need to go bigger -- say 14 or 15k. I think it would be better to have one that cycles on/off periodically rather than one that is constantly running.

Buddy came over Saturday and we worked on his car for about 4 hours in the morning. What a difference it made! Normally I would've been completely wiped out afterwards.

Opening the garage door does not seem to be a big deal for cold air loss. Even open for a few minutes at a time, the temps recover quickly.

Next steps:

- Shop around for bigger BTU units

- Shop around for better fridge

- I have a sub-panel in the garage. I'll probably run a new circuit for garage tools so portable A/C can be on a circuit by itself. Looks like a larger A/C will draw 10A or more by itself. I've got 30A so I may add 2 15A circuits - one for general garage tools and another for lift (future)
 
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Don't count on 15 amp 120 volts being enough for a lift.
Most serious lifts require 240 volts 30 amps.

I'm along with the others in suspecting the fridge. Consider consolidating your food and beverages stored there into your kitchen fridge and a smaller dorm sized fridge for shop beer and water bottle storage. Much more economical to operate and much less heat generated to strain your AC.
 
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Don't count on 15 amp 120 volts being enough for a lift.
Most serious lifts require 240 volts 30 amps.

I'm along with the others in suspecting the fridge. Consider consolidating your food and beverages stored there into your kitchen fridge and a smaller dorm sized fridge for shop beer and water bottle storage. Much more economical to operate and much less heat generated to strain your AC.

Pretty sure the lift I'm looking at takes a 110V/15A circuit but it is a good reminder nonetheless.

I am all for a mini-fridge.

However, it is extremely convenient during the holidays when we have a lot of family over. Might be able to put it in the basement though. A smaller fridge in the garage would also make room for a larger compressor. :)
 
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Just re-measured the floor temps underneath the fridge. 95.8° was the highest I measured. Compressor happened to be running at that time.
 

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This will not help the humidity, but an exhaust fan run overnight will help reduce the temp of the mass of the garage and contents. It will build again the next day. The mshp is the answer for you as far as conditioning the space, I think. They do a great job of de-humdifying.The other option is to get out on the intercostal with the other boater-folks.
 

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I have a little larger garage in Richmond (river city, high humidity) and similar temps to Atlanta (grew up there) with a fridge in the garage. I added a dehumidifier and made a world of difference. Until the air temp approaches low 90's inside, it is extremely comfortable. Usually happens only in late afternoon with upper 90's ambient. I also run a stationary air compressor and a real large shop vac for sandblast cabinet filtering. Your fridge sounds out of whack. I keep less than 50% rh year round. It really protects my parts and tools stored there from rusting.
 
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