Looking for cut-off wheel suggestions

[superskaterxes]

Hey guys,

yesterday i realized i am down to my last cutoff wheel and i am looking for suggestions to see what else is out there. I am currently using these Dewalt DW8859H blades with the 5/8-11 arbor.

I dont have any complaints but they are a little on the expensive side so i was just wondering what else you guys have used. I am only looking for 6" blades with the built in 5/8" arbor for quick changes and i am going to be using them for cutting stainless/ferrous metals.

TIA!

 

[mdog892001]

I use harbor freight if I need a lot of them


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[Doug Arthurs]

The only blade I will use is the Walter Zipcut. Great life cuts fast. Cheap cut offs ****. They breakdown way too fast. If you buy cheap ones from Harbor Freight you will need a lot of them.

 

[BillK]

That really is not a "cut off" wheel, is it ? Looks more like a grinding wheel. I have had the best luck with the Dewalt ones. Plus they are easy to find locally.

3M is probably good too, their actual cutoff wheels are the only ones that seem to last for me but they are hard to find local. I get them from McMaster.

 

[superskaterxes]

That really is not a "cut off" wheel, is it ? Looks more like a grinding wheel. I have had the best luck with the Dewalt ones. Plus they are easy to find locally.

3M is probably good too, their actual cutoff wheels are the only ones that seem to last for me but they are hard to find local. I get them from McMaster.

it is, its only 3/64" thick lol

 

[Stooge]

Metabo Slicer wheels, made in the US. I buy them from Lehigh Valley Abrasives, under a dollar a piece, work very well, last longer than any of the other ones I've used and have never had any premature failures or accidents with them "exploding". After a few near misses with the chinese/ HF ones failing, they are too dangerous and I wont touch them
https://www.lehighvalleyabrasives.c...r-cut-off-wheel-metabo-655331000-met655331000

I buy all of my abrasives from Lehigh, always a good product and price, and I've only ever received US and EU made from them.

 

[BillK]

it is, its only 3/64" thick lol

Maybe I should read the label next time

 

[CR888]

Pferd Germany.

 

[matt_i]

I bought a box of 50 Metabo slicers on Amazon, it was around $50 IIRC. It should last me as long as I care to use the tool, and at ~$1/wheel I thought a good deal. I had a bunch of rebars to cut initially and wasn't sure how many wheels I would go thru but that ended up being about 4.

 

[superskaterxes]

Metabo Slicer wheels, made in the US. I buy them from Lehigh Valley Abrasives, under a dollar a piece, work very well, last longer than any of the other ones I've used and have never had any premature failures or accidents with them "exploding". After a few near misses with the chinese/ HF ones failing, they are too dangerous and I wont touch them
https://www.lehighvalleyabrasives.c...r-cut-off-wheel-metabo-655331000-met655331000

I buy all of my abrasives from Lehigh, always a good product and price, and I've only ever received US and EU made from them.

thanks for the suggestion, i typically stay away from chinese stuff when it comes to safety but im also the guy who uses a 6" wheel on his 4.5" angle grinder

 

[Alaniho]

Walter and Pferd would be 2 of the best for value/performance and of course safety. I'd be wary of shop brands and powertool rebrands as they will tend to go for the cheapest they can get. Walter is a rebrand but they are made by Globe Italy who are a top tier manufacturer.

 

[ScottsGT]

I bought a 4" and a 3" Bad Dog lifetime guaranteed cutoff disc. This was back in June. I still have not tried them. But I got them at a show special price.

https://baddogtools.com/product/4-hdii-handi-disc/

If you do the "show near you" page, its worth a trip to save big time. Hopefully in the next week or two I can finally give these things a workout.

 

[jumbojak]

I like the Lennox Metal max wheels.

 

[superskaterxes]

I bought a 4" and a 3" Bad Dog lifetime guaranteed cutoff disc. This was back in June. I still have not tried them. But I got them at a show special price.

https://baddogtools.com/product/4-hdii-handi-disc/

If you do the "show near you" page, its worth a trip to save big time. Hopefully in the next week or two I can finally give these things a workout.

i have this too but i prefer to use 6" because i tend to make deep cuts. I also bought their drill bits at SEMA one year and they are trash just FYI

 

[Fixed]

I like the Lennox Metal max wheels.

I've got a couple of those, the only thing is that I find them much louder than an abrasive wheel, and they definitely do not cut as fast as a good wheel (like a Walter).

However I really like it because it seems way safer than a regular wheel, and it's super convenient to just chuck my grinder with the disc still on it right into my bag.

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[jumbojak]

I've got a couple of those, the only thing is that I find them much louder than an abrasive wheel, and they definitely do not cut as fast as a good wheel (like a Walter).

However I really like it because it seems way safer than a regular wheel, and it's super convenient to just chuck my grinder with the disc still on it right into my bag.

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They also don't wear down to a useless cookie. Depth of cut is less of a concern than reach. I hate having to switch to a sawzall because the last abrasive wheel won't quiiiiite make it through the cut.

 

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They also don't wear down to a useless cookie. Depth of cut is less of a concern than reach. I hate having to switch to a sawzall because the last abrasive wheel won't quiiiiite make it through the cut.

Very good point.

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[tarbellb]

Avoid cheap cutoff wheels, not a place to roll the dice. Flaps and stones, maybe, but not cutoffs.

Also, I suggest only using 3/64". Anything else you are just inhaling way more dust and heating up your work piece.


Brands to look for- Pferd, Metabo, Norton, United Abrasives, Walter, Weiler, Gemini, or basically anything made in USA, Germany, Italy.

 

[tarbellb]

Oh, and for the quick change... just bust off the wheel with your hands, its the original "quick change"

6" w/ threaded hub is going to be hard to find and likely $$$.

 

[danielbuck]

Same here, boxes of Metabo's in 3" and 6", just regular flat wheels, no threads.

Sometimes you get a wheel that wobbles. At that price, I crack it in 1/2 and throw it out when I find a bad one.

 

[Wamsutta]

Interesting that nobody is alarmed by the OP using a 6 inch cutoff wheel on a 4.5 inch grinder.

 

[joshmodelskidoo]

I have used hf standard ones and ther Hercules brand ones. Hurcules are much better but I think the better value is performax from Menards.

 

[danielbuck]

Interesting that nobody is alarmed by the OP using a 6 inch cutoff wheel on a 4.5 inch grinder.

eh, I run 6" disks on my 4.5" pneumatic grinder. But you can slow down pneumatic grinders.

 

[Wamsutta]

eh, I run 6" disks on my 4.5" pneumatic grinder. But you can slow down pneumatic grinders.

Electric grinder motors will melt down if they're forced to turn a disc that's larger than their rating.

 

[speed bump]

Electric grinder motors will melt down if they're forced to turn a disc that's larger than their rating.

I would put money on most non Fab shop users never burning up a 4.5" grinder with a 6" cutting wheel. Shoot I've been trying to burn up my 5" Makita for years and other than being noisy it just eats, even when I have put a 9" grinding disc on it (don't do this it's a scary combination).

The lack of a shield would concern me a lot more but typically those people only do that until the first cutting wheel blows up.

Back to the original question: Walter, Flexovit, and Pferd all make good wheels. I also have some US made masterforce wheels from Menards that have held up well. Generally I only buy DeWalt consumables because the Farm store was the only place open when I needed them.

Edit: almost forgot, Sait makes a good consumable as well.

 

[El_Guapo]

I personally prefer Sait over any other cutoff wheel for the 4½" and 6" machines. For my little 3" death wheels, I've found Norton "BlueFire" to stay together better than most.

 

[Fixed]

Avoid cheap cutoff wheels, not a place to roll the dice. Flaps and stones, maybe, but not cutoffs.



Also, I suggest only using 3/64". Anything else you are just inhaling way more dust and heating up your work piece.





Brands to look for- Pferd, Metabo, Norton, United Abrasives, Walter, Weiler, Gemini, or basically anything made in USA, Germany, Italy.

Yup. Better ones are not only safer, but also last longer and cut faster.

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[tarbellb]

Interesting that nobody is alarmed by the OP using a 6 inch cutoff wheel on a 4.5 inch grinder.

Meh, I ran literally a 100+ 6" in a row on my 4.5" grinder doing a job end of last year. Not one issue w/ quality Weiler brand besides a few that wobbled more then I liked, trashed those.

Besides not being able to use the guard (gasp), a .045" x 6" wheel is not a big deal to run on a 4.5" grinder. Its the heavy stones and wire cups that really burn those small grinders up.

 

[Wamsutta]

I would put money on most non Fab shop users never burning up a 4.5" grinder with a 6" cutting wheel. Shoot I've been trying to burn up my 5" Makita for years and other than being noisy it just eats, even when I have put a 9" grinding disc on it (don't do this it's a scary combination).

The lack of a shield would concern me a lot more but typically those people only do that until the first cutting wheel blows up.

Back to the original question: Walter, Flexovit, and Pferd all make good wheels. I also have some US made masterforce wheels from Menards that have held up well. Generally I only buy DeWalt consumables because the Farm store was the only place open when I needed them.

Edit: almost forgot, Sait makes a good consumable as well.

I tried a 6 inch grinding wheel on my Bosch grinder a long time ago at welding school. The sweet sugary smell of electric motor windings heating up was my lesson learned. The epoxy resin used to keep the windings intact is what gave off the smell. I didn't know what the smell was until the instructor told me. The grinder was in use for just a short time too---like maybe a minute. I still have the grinder and it works fine. I was able to wise up and come to my senses before ruining it. Next time I will be buying a dedicated 6 inch with the proper gearing for 6 inch discs.

 

[TwoInch]

The problem running large wheels on smaller grinders is that you are spinning the wheel past it's speed rating.. I also don't see what you are gaining by doing things like that... Why not use the right grinder that is not under powered for the job?

I use pferd, metabo, norton usually.

cheap HF and performax type wheels sing end up cheaper in my experience... They burn up 5 times faster probably... If you make just a couple short cuts in mild steel, they just disappear. VERY inferior abrasives and binders used in those wheels... I hate using grinders with HF or other cheap of the cheap wheels. Once you use a high quality wheel that lasts 2, 3, 4, times as long but don't cost 4 tomes as much.. You figure it out.

Something that can bite me that hard that fast... I can't cheap out on like that... Im guessing HF cut off users have been lucky and no wheel explosions yet, and don't use them much to realize they don't last.

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[Wamsutta]

The problem running large wheels on smaller grinders is that you are spinning the wheel past it's speed rating...

That 6 inch disc spinning at 11,000 rpm was spooky. At that speed, the disc didn't want to change directions. Centrifugal force wanted to keep the disc spinning at one level plane.

 

[Mecha]

Metabo slicers here. All the millwrights and mechanical building contractors use them around here as well