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I'm looking for some jack stands to support my 06 Tundra. I have some shorter stands but need to go taller.

I was looking at the Esco 10498 for $125/set.

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I see that HF has their version of the Esco for $100/set.
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Another choice would be the ratcheting type for $80/set.
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I have a set of cheap no name three ton stands, but they are so short I don't use them for anything other than my UTV and lawn mowers. I also have two sets of Torin six tons that are probably the same as the HF's. I really like those for my service van, pickups, and Jeep. I used to have set similar to the Esco's. I hated those just because of the pins. I don't remember if I gave them away, threw them away, or left them in the shop when I moved 20+ years ago. I do know that I was done with them and didn't care what happened.
 
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RickyPetite said:
I have a pair of Gray 7-THF (maximum height 20"). You have to see them in person to appreciate how well-made they are. Each stand is rated for 7 tons! They have a wide variety of other sizes etc. Expensive but so worth it when I'm climbing under my wife's SUV.

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Uh those Grays are 520 bucks a pair.
 
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RickyPetite said:
I have a pair of Gray 7-THF (maximum height 20"). You have to see them in person to appreciate how well-made they are. Each stand is rated for 7 tons! They have a wide variety of other sizes etc. Expensive but so worth it when I'm climbing under my wife's SUV.

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No, they're not rated at 7 tons a stand, though they do look very nice. There is no accepted engineering standard to rate a single stand. The spec they claim they meet rates pairs. he previous versions of the standard did rate them singlely, but there have been lots of failures from thinking that if one stand is rated at X, then two were 2X, which isn't true.
 
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Ricky Joe said:
Put 4x4s under them. They won’t go anywhere.
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I never go under anything without a secondary support. My favorite is a rim of the vehicle I'm working on but cinder blocks and wood work well. My grandfather used chunks of railroad ties and big stumps cut-offs. I have loads of jack stands and jacks. I gave away several and sold some in the last year.
 
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HF stands are fine :rolleyes:

I have the Esco's and the Esco-style Daytona stands. They're functionally equivalent for me, though Esco is 3-tons per stand and Daytona is 3 tons per pair. I'm not sure how Esco achieves a higher rating - the post/metal thickness are the same, and the welding seems much more carefully/neatly done on my Daytona pair. That said, for an extra $25 a pair, I'd probably get the Escos. But with a decent HF coupon, I'd opt for the new Daytona pad-style. Post and pad design are better than the Esco stands IMHO.
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(Esco L - Daytona R)

The new Daytona 3-ton traditional-style stands are awfully nice too.
 
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unslow1 said:
I never go under anything without a secondary support. My favorite is a rim of the vehicle I'm working on but cinder blocks and wood work well. My grandfather used chunks of railroad ties and big stumps cut-offs. I have loads of jack stands and jacks. I gave away several and sold some in the last year.
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Do not use cinder blocks !!!! Ever !!!
 
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They crack very easy if they are not set holes vertically. We've been putting them under car tires to raise them for painting since before I was born. You can't load them in small areas I would agree. They have to have the load spread out. A 2x10 on top of a block works pretty well.
 
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dscheidt said:
No, they're not rated at 7 tons a stand, though they do look very nice. There is no accepted engineering standard to rate a single stand. The spec they claim they meet rates pairs. he previous versions of the standard did rate them singlely, but there have been lots of failures from thinking that if one stand is rated at X, then two were 2X, which isn't true.
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Yes, they are. Gray uses the old standard (ASME PASE-2014), and they don't make any 2X claims whatsoever.
 
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Second for US Jack ones, hands down worth the extra money for an '06 Tundra. I use them on my '07 Sequoia, lifted about 2.5" and need the extra jack stand height. Rebuilt a good majority of my front end trusting my life to these (had other backups, but these were primary on the weight). 1st Gen Tundras and 1st Gen Sequoias are very similar so confident these would work well for you.

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I got rid of all my old stands this year and bought 2 pairs of Torin Big Red 6 Tons. They have a safety pin and they are solidly built.
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M635_Guy said:
HF stands are fine :rolleyes:

I have the Esco's and the Esco-style Daytona stands. They're functionally equivalent for me, though Esco is 3-tons per stand and Daytona is 3 tons per pair. I'm not sure how Esco achieves a higher rating - the post/metal thickness are the same, and the welding seems much more carefully/neatly done on my Daytona pair. That said, for an extra $25 a pair, I'd probably get the Escos. But with a decent HF coupon, I'd opt for the new Daytona pad-style. Post and pad design are better than the Esco stands IMHO.
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(Esco L - Daytona R)

The new Daytona 3-ton traditional-style stands are awfully nice too.
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Esco has some conflicting info. Their spec sheet states: 3 Ton Capacity Per Stand.


Their manual states:

Capacity (Per Pair)*
3 Ton 6,000 lbs.
*Use stands only as identical pair. Weight-rating capacities apply to applications using matching stands.


Probably both the same?
 
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Maddog1337 said:
Second for US Jack ones, hands down worth the extra money for an '06 Tundra. I use them on my '07 Sequoia, lifted about 2.5" and need the extra jack stand height. Rebuilt a good majority of my front end trusting my life to these (had other backups, but these were primary on the weight). 1st Gen Tundras and 1st Gen Sequoias are very similar so confident these would work well for you.

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Buy U.S. Jack D-41610, 6-Ton Heavy Duty Rachet Jack Stand

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Add me to the list. Buy once cry once. After all the recalls HF had on jack stands over the years, no thanks to them. US Jack FTW.
 
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gagecalman said:
Esco has some conflicting info. Their spec sheet states: 3 Ton Capacity Per Stand.


Their manual states:

Capacity (Per Pair)*
3 Ton 6,000 lbs.
*Use stands only as identical pair. Weight-rating capacities apply to applications using matching stands.


Probably both the same?
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Looking at them side-by-side, I'd agree they're the same. I don't honestly care since there's nothing I'm working on that's even close to 3 tons.

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Add me to the list. Buy once cry once. After all the recalls HF had on jack stands over the years, no thanks to them. US Jack FTW.
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As far as I've ever seen, there was exactly one "set" of recalls. One as the result of a legit-dangerous quality control issue around the casting of the post. It was pretty broadly out there on the internet, and since I had a set of them, I looked for as much information as I could find. I only found six or seven different stands on the various sites and YouTube, and based on that and a couple other things, my impression was it was a low-volume escape. Still, pretty bad for those who had the defective ones, though I heard nothing about any injuries/deaths as result. In the middle of that, someone posted another "failure", which was of a huge old Buick/similar sitting on a single stand on asphalt at an angle (in other words, several kinds of wrong). The weld had split on the base - I'm guessing because the stand was overloaded and sinking into the pavement. But the internet glommed on and HF decided to add that to the list. After much additional poo-throwing, they just offered to refund any stand they'd ever sold. Not for safety reasons, but for customer sat reasons.

My point is that haven't had more than one legit recall on jack stands as far as i can tell. My set was fine, and had been used pretty consistently for several years. My wife heard about the recall and asked me to stop using them, so I got a set of ProLift that were essentially identical other than the post-locking pin you see on the current Daytona stands. They've also added more gussets, welded the center seam, eliminated the open panel on the frame and other details on the Daytona line.
 
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M635_Guy said:
Looking at them side-by-side, I'd agree they're the same. I don't honestly care since there's nothing I'm working on that's even close to 3 tons.


As far as I've ever seen, there was exactly one "set" of recalls. One as the result of a legit-dangerous quality control issue around the casting of the post. It was pretty broadly out there on the internet, and since I had a set of them, I looked for as much information as I could find. I only found six or seven different stands on the various sites and YouTube, and based on that and a couple other things, my impression was it was a low-volume escape. Still, pretty bad for those who had the defective ones, though I heard nothing about any injuries/deaths as result. In the middle of that, someone posted another "failure", which was of a huge old Buick/similar sitting on a single stand on asphalt at an angle (in other words, several kinds of wrong). The weld had split on the base - I'm guessing because the stand was overloaded and sinking into the pavement. But the internet glommed on and HF decided to add that to the list. After much additional poo-throwing, they just offered to refund any stand they'd ever sold. Not for safety reasons, but for customer sat reasons.

My point is that haven't had more than one legit recall on jack stands as far as i can tell. My set was fine, and had been used pretty consistently for several years. My wife heard about the recall and asked me to stop using them, so I got a set of ProLift that were essentially identical other than the post-locking pin you see on the current Daytona stands. They've also added more gussets, welded the center seam, eliminated the open panel on the frame and other details on the Daytona line.
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IIRC there were two recalls maybe within a year, although I'm not certain on the time frame. It was discussed at another forum I frequent. In any event I agree with what you're saying, the Internet has a way to blow things out of proportion. In any event I took my four 6 ton HF jack stands which weren't part of the recall, and returned them for cash. I bought the US Jack jack stands and have no regrets. There are certain things I'm willing to gamble on, jack stands are not one of them. Opinions will vary.
 
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I have a bunch of the Torin Big Red 6-ton stands. Got them when Northern Tool was selling them for $20/pair! Also picked up their 12-ton stands for $44/pair.
They are a quality stand.
 
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Everybody gives **** to HF for the jack problem they had but apparently nobody gives them credit 1) For admitting the problem. 2) For doing what appears to be an excellent job of fixing the problem. Haters gonna hate but that doesn't change that they did right by their customers once the problem was identified.
 
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I have the Escos, the old orange HF, and homemade welded stands with pins. I'm all for a pin design after I had a near disaster with the HF style stands with the cast support- the pin that holds the pawl to the lever somehow sheared off without my noticing so that the pawl wasn't fully engaged. Luckily I wasn't under the vehicle when it let go. Yes, the stand bottomed out, but it still could have been a disaster. Yes, you should always verify first that it's fully engaged, but how many do that every time? Plus, I'd rather trust my life to steel than cast iron.
 
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dnschmidt said:
Everybody gives **** to HF for the jack problem they had but apparently nobody gives them credit 1) For admitting the problem. 2) For doing what appears to be an excellent job of fixing the problem. Haters gonna hate but that doesn't change that they did right by their customers once the problem was identified.
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Responding doesn't retroactively fix the problem. It still happened.

They could have given a million dollars to everyone. Doesn't make the Jack stands safe.
 
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Responding doesn't retroactively fix the problem. It still happened.

They could have given a million dollars to everyone. Doesn't make the Jack stands safe.
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I agree. They did the right thing, but it still happened. Thank God it didn't end tragically for someone. I trust their jacks, the jack stands I'll pass on.
 
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Responding doesn't retroactively fix the problem. It still happened.

They could have given a million dollars to everyone. Doesn't make the Jack stands safe.
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It wouldn't make the faulty ones safe. The new ones have better features than others in their price range.
(jump to 9:00 if the video doesn't do it automatically)

I'm not cavalier with my life. The convolutions the COO enthusiasts around here go to around the idea that Esco is built better than the made-in-the-same-country HF set is genuinely amusing. The vast majority of issues/injuries/deaths with jack stands are caused by user error. I look at my equipment (jack stands, QuickJack, whatever) before I use it, I take my time and shake-test the **** out of anything I've put up before I'd get under it.

A privately owned company like HF makes an attractive-enough target that I don't believe for a moment they're being cavalier about safety on something like a jack stand. They screwed up but they did more than they had to in response and did it very quickly.
 
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M635_Guy said:
It wouldn't make the faulty ones safe. The new ones have better features than others in their price range.
(jump to 9:00 if the video doesn't do it automatically)

I'm not cavalier with my life. The convolutions the COO enthusiasts around here go to around the idea that Esco is built better than the made-in-the-same-country Escos is genuinely amusing. The vast majority of issues/injuries/deaths with jack stands are caused by user error. I look at my equipment (jack stands, QuickJack, whatever) before I use it, I take my time and shake-test the **** out of anything I've put up before I'd get under it.

A privately owned company like HF makes an attractive-enough target that I don't believe for a moment they're being cavalier about safety on something like a jack stand. They screwed up but they did more than they had to in response and did it very quickly.
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As long as you are comfortable with what you are using, nothing else matters.

I don't care all that much about COO, hence my use of esco.
 
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All this talk about jack stand strength and design motivated me to take a critical look at the 4 jack stands I built around 40 years ago. Back then the vehicle I owned weighed only 2200lb. At that time I had access to free materials and free welding services, but that is definitely no longer the case.

Looking at my jack stands now I see that the materials used are strong (1/4" thick steel legs, 5/32" thick center tube) but the attachment of the legs to the center tube is not very strong, with only 3" of weld connecting each leg to the tube. I want to strengthen that attachment with the addition of some gussets.

If I took this jack stand to a fabrication/welding shop and asked them to weld gussets (6 total) between the center tube and the top end of the legs, what should I expect to pay for materials and labor?

The alternative is to spend $200 (or $160 with coupon) on new flat top jack stands from HF.
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3 Ton Jack Stands with Circular Pads

Amazing deals on this 3T Circular Pad Jack Stands at Harbor Freight. Quality tools & low prices.
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Outahere said:
If I took this jack stand to a fabrication/welding shop and asked them to weld gussets (6 total) between the center tube and the top end of the legs, what should I expect to pay for materials and labor?

The alternative is to spend $200 (or $160 with coupon) on new flat top jack stands from HF.
www.harborfreight.com

3 Ton Jack Stands with Circular Pads

Amazing deals on this 3T Circular Pad Jack Stands at Harbor Freight. Quality tools & low prices.
www.harborfreight.com www.harborfreight.com

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Way more than they are worth, if you could even find a shop willing to modify jack stands. A smart shop would tell you to scrap them and buy something engineered
 
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I would go with US Jacks or Gray Mfg. Sorry I don't own any but used them at a self-help auto shop and trust my life to 'em. I wouldn't use any HF jackstands. Iown 10 year old+ Hein Werners that were made in USA.
 
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