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Low Bidder Hack AC Install, NEED ASSISTANCE!

cowboyjosh

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They were suppose to, was thinking about calling my city and asking them to stop by when they leave.

Don't call the city unless it's a last resort. Your in Phoenix, I wouldn't want them to order you to shut the unit down until its fixed property if it's excessively hot outside. I'd probably pay another TRANE dealer to fix the hack install and take the GC and the HACK to small claims court before I would call the city. Thats just my opinion though.
 
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plumbstupid

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Plumb, if you put a pressure regulator on your incoming line at the house does that little device constitute a check valve or at enough like a check valve for the system to be considered closed?

Most pressure regulators that are use in residential construction do not have check valves built into them. However they do not allow the water to flow backwards to the main as freely as a system without one

Install one backwards and you will see what I mean :lol_hitti

Thermal expansion is not a slow process. Most people believe it is gradually building up pressure til the T&P relief valve releases the pressure and you see the constant drip or water seeping out of the on the side of you house.

The really bad cases of thermal expansion happen qiuck, the expansion takes place so fast the T&P does not relive the pressure fast enough causing the tank to fail
 

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Every time I see posts similar to this I wonder....where the **** do you people find contractors like this. Doesn't anyone ever check references or inspect a few of the contractors previous installs? I always check what people are doing when they do work for me. I only pay 1/3 up front, 1/3 when the work is in progress and the last 1/3 when they are done and I have inspected and ALL problems resolved.....
 
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Jme128

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Every time I see posts similar to this I wonder....where the **** do you people find contractors like this. Doesn't anyone ever check references or inspect a few of the contractors previous installs? I always check what people are doing when they do work for me. I only pay 1/3 up front, 1/3 when the work is in progress and the last 1/3 when they are done and I have inspected and ALL problems resolved.....

I looked them up through the better business bureau, AZ Registrar of Contractors and internet reviews. I had no control of the AC installer as I previously mentioned. Surprisingly, there wasn’t any bad reviews on that company that I could find.
 
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Jme128

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Here is it cleaned up. Opinions?

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danski0224

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Well, it's better than bailing wire....

At least that mesh stuff is made to support flex duct.

As far as the tape goes, at least they could have used black tape. Installing new insulation (Armaflex) without all of the tears in it would be better yet.

This work probably exceeds the normal standards for that particular company. Good luck with it. :)
 

Tarheelgarage

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I looked them up through the better business bureau, AZ Registrar of Contractors and internet reviews. I had no control of the AC installer as I previously mentioned. Surprisingly, there wasn’t any bad reviews on that company that I could find.



You best give them a hit on a review to protect others from suffering with those **** birds...:rocker:
 

DefSport

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Not crazy about the routing of the refrig. lines, but they are secured well enough for residential work. I wouldn't worry too much about the cut insulation as long as it's properly sealed up.

The water heater install looks like a bit of a mess, but code requirements differ so much I won't even begin to guess if it's up to code in your area.
 
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JakeKohl

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This must be a fairly new code requirement. It makes sense. Learn something new every day.

My municipality requires a checkvalve to be installed at the city water shut-off valve (usually in the yard/utility access thing). I replaced my supply line a couple of years ago and although I had an old check valve, I went ahead and replaced it. My water heater started leaking all over the place that night (it was quite old). As it drew in cold water during hot water usage and heated it, that water expanded. Now that the check valve was doing it's job, that pressure had nowhere to go and it dramatically increased the pressure in my water system (over 120psi). I replaced the water heater and installed an expansion tank to keep the pressure of the system more constant and within a safe range.
 

zmaxmotorsports

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Wow that's classic butchering!:scared:
Around these parts anyway if I install more than one 90 degree fitting after a t&p valve Im required to increase the pipe size by 1 size.
 

Milton Shaw

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Nobody else has mentioned this but most T&P valves have a tag that says don't solder directly on pipe attached to the valve. My first house in Nashville by code had to have a new T&P valve installed by a plumber before they would pass the house for sale. I had to pay the plumber to do it and of course he soldered pipe ****** directly connected to the valve. It failed two weeks later because of that and I replaced it myself as he was going to charge again to come out. The ****** should be soldered and elbow soldered on and then cooled and screwed into the T&P valve before extending on out, to keep from overheating the valve.
That is a butcher job on the a/c no doubt. I used two hole clamps big enough for the insulation to hold pipes where they crossed joists.
 
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