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-I do, have had it for a couple of years. I don't expect it to be real accurate, seems to work ok for me. Keep the battery removed for longer battery life.
 

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I have no experience with that particular model but I have two similar devices I've purchased through the years. I have an inexpensive model I purchased through an auto a/c supplier over 20 years ago that's still going strong and a second that I got for a pittance from the Tractor Supply sale bin recently. Both are fairly accurate but, most importantly, consistent. Be aware, the laser pointer is somewhat deceptive. If you search through the documentation, it should show a "cone" shaped area that the thermometer measures. Usually it starts off at around an inch at 12 and widens from there. After about a foot, you usually aren't measuring the temperature of an object but the average of the area. It's still meaninful numbers and not a problem if you're aware of it but the laser pointer might make you think otherwise.

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You can get a cheap one for $35 at Autozone.
I've had this one for decades. It's pricey and you don't need it. LOL
Finding a wheel bearing that's going south you'll be good with a cheap one.
If you measuring temperature of hot gasses going into the SpaceX rocket, pass on the cheap ones. LOL
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I have used a HF model for years to check my trailer tires and bearings. I am not sure if the reading is totally accurate but it will tell at least show if all four close to the same. Catch one while on sale or with coupon and it should be fine for your intended use.
 

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I have the old “ Central “HF model

If I point it at something hot, the temperature is high. If I pointed it something cold, the temperature reads lower

How much accuracy do you need?
 

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I have the harbor freight model. I bought it to check exhaust temps to see if my catalytic converter was plugged. It did the job. I use it pretty regularly for non-critical stuff. You know, like checking the temperature of a sunbathing black dog:

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I've had one for 2 years now. Works as advertised. Seems to track within 1-2 degrees of a klein one I have. Agree on removing batteries when not in use. Picked it up on sale.
 

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I have had one of their (much) earlier models for quite some time. Like others have said, accuracy is not one of the selling points, but it is good for relative temperatures.

Mine uses a 9v battery. When you use the laser pointer, it REALLY eats up the battery, but then it seems to last a long time with only 1 bar showing on battery strength.

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...If you measuring temperature of hot gasses going into the SpaceX rocket, pass on the cheap ones. LOL...
The biggest difference between the cheap ones and the expensive ones is the field of view. With the cheap ones, you need to be really close up to get a good reading that doesn't average out everything in front of you. With the better ones, you can get a good reading from farther back.

Accuracy isn't a strong point of ANY of these. In part because of the FOV issue (it's hard tell exactly what you're measuring), and in part because it's hard to know the exact surface emissivity.
 

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I have no experience with that particular model but I have two similar devices I've purchased through the years. I have an inexpensive model I purchased through an auto a/c supplier over 20 years ago that's still going strong and a second that I got for a pittance from the Tractor Supply sale bin recently. Both are fairly accurate but, most importantly, consistent. Be aware, the laser pointer is somewhat deceptive. If you search through the documentation, it should show a "cone" shaped area that the thermometer measures. Usually it starts off at around an inch at 12 and widens from there. After about a foot, you usually aren't measuring the temperature of an object but the average of the area. It's still meaninful numbers and not a problem if you're aware of it but the laser pointer might make you think otherwise.

Lou Manglass

long time ago, when these things first started to show up in shops, a coworker had one with two lasers. They were mounted at a slight angle, with the idea that you got them to converge, and you then knew it was measuring an inch circle centered on the spot. That distance was about 18" or 24". seemed clever, but a bit too much.
 
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If you're interested in accuracy you may wish to skim https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emissivity .
Two different materials at the same temperature will appear to have different temperatures
if their emissivity is different.
The better IR instruments will have the ability to change the emissivity parameter within the unit that is used to calculate the temperature. If you need such capability, then you are probably aware of it but it is something to consider if you are in need of accuracy, resolution and repeatability in your application.
 

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The better IR instruments will have the ability to change the emissivity parameter within the unit that is used to calculate the temperature. If you need such capability, then you are probably aware of it but it is something to consider if you are in need of accuracy, resolution and repeatability in your application.
Right you are about emissivity. Seen some wildly inaccurate readings on shiny metal surfaces. These things have really gotten cheaper in recent years. Over 10 years ago I bought a Fluke 62 Max Plus because of the adjustable emissivity and two laser beams that were 180* apart which defined the diameter of the area being measured. Never felt confident with the one beam models when at a distance. It wasn't cheap then and would be an extravagance at today's Fluke prices (which I wouldn't repeat). Good to see prices have really come down.
 

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The better IR instruments will have the ability to change the emissivity parameter within the unit that is used to calculate the temperature. If you need such capability, then you are probably aware of it but it is something to consider if you are in need of accuracy, resolution and repeatability in your application.
Unless you know the exact emissivity of the surface and are working in laboratory conditions, it's kind of worthless to be able to adjust the instrument. Once you look at what a thermal imager "sees", it becomes clear that low emissivity materials (reflective metals come to mind), not only throw off the temperature readings by having a vastly different infrared emission spectrum, but they also reflect so much IR that you often just pick up a reflection of your own body heat rather than the surface itself.

The safest bet (when you can) is to just mark the surface with some white paint and figure it's 0.95 emissivity.
 

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Unless you know the exact emissivity of the surface and are working in laboratory conditions, it's kind of worthless to be able to adjust the instrument. Once you look at what a thermal imager "sees", it becomes clear that low emissivity materials (reflective metals come to mind), not only throw off the temperature readings by having a vastly different infrared emission spectrum, but they also reflect so much IR that you often just pick up a reflection of your own body heat rather than the surface itself.

The safest bet (when you can) is to just mark the surface with some white paint and figure it's 0.95 emissivity.
Why white paint. Wouldn't black be better.
 

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I have a Klein I've had for many years and many uses. In some of the posts I was reading about how the temperatures are averaged in an area. I'm not saying that's not true but I was recently impressed while aiming the beam through a grated vent on the top of an AV receiver. I was checking to see if something was getting too hot and I was getting significant differences in readings going from one component to the next. These things are really handy.
 

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Why white paint. Wouldn't black be better.
Maybe. Getting into the weeds, with black, the emissivity varies a lot with the sheen, where gloss lowers it a whole lot, and flat black SHOULD be excellent, but that depends a lot on what the paint is composed of (dyes are not the same as pigments, and with black, that matters a lot). With white, there's a lot less variability to contend with. Pretty much any paint other than a black gloss metallic is going to get you over 0.90, and that should be good enough for at least decent temperature comparisons.

I use a lot of Kapton tape for emissivity spot checks on metal. Tape can work as well as paint.
 

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If you have a Menards nearby, they have one for $6. I haven't used it, but I just picked it up over the weekend.

Probably the one I bought via their online sale a couple of months ago.

It works, but it’s far inferior to the one I bought fifteen or more years ago when they were first introduced to the mass market.

I was disappointed, to say the least with the cheap Menards unit.
 

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This is true for the old Cen tech ? Yellow / grey one. Our is old; maybe the new orange one is better.
-I've found that just about anything that takes a battery should have it removed when not in use. The battery either drains or corrodes. I've ruined a few of the old Maglite flashlights from storing the flashlight for emergencies and the corroded battery ruined it. The IR temp gun seemed to run the battery down faster than for the few times I used it to check HVAC duct temps. Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about either.
 
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-I've found that just about anything that takes a battery should have it removed when not in use. The battery either drains or corrodes. I've ruined a few of the old Maglite flashlights from storing the flashlight for emergencies and the corroded battery ruined it. The IR temp gun seemed to run the battery down faster than for the few times I used it to check HVAC duct temps. Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about either.
Always a good idea to remove batteries for things that are used infrequently. Highly variable how long until the batteries leak and can do a lot of damage.
 
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Maybe. Getting into the weeds, with black, the emissivity varies a lot with the sheen, where gloss lowers it a whole lot, and flat black SHOULD be excellent, but that depends a lot on what the paint is composed of (dyes are not the same as pigments, and with black, that matters a lot). With white, there's a lot less variability to contend with. Pretty much any paint other than a black gloss metallic is going to get you over 0.90, and that should be good enough for at least decent temperature comparisons.

I use a lot of Kapton tape for emissivity spot checks on metal. Tape can work as well as paint.
Here's a table of emissivity of various materials. Probably should verify with multiple sources of info if you are getting into it that much. One of the things I want to do is check the temp of concrete prior to a spray foam job and I see concrete is listed.
https://www.thermoworks.com/emissivity-table/
 

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Haven't put it through its full paces yet, but just bought the Etekcity Lasergrip 1260 from Amazon the other day for around $20.

Just playing around with it so far, I like what I see. Adjustable emissivity, 12:1 ratio, AA batteries (instead of 9v).
 
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