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Lug nut from hell.

Semohandyman

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I am trying to get a lug nut off my brother’s old non running car. All came off but one it broke right behind the nut. Anyone have an idea of a way to get it off without destroying the wheel? This is what the lug nut looks like.
 

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junkman104

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If it broke behind the nut the wheel should come off over it unless "electrolysis" set in. A BFH comes in handy hitting on the tire side to side. Sometimes it needs a big pry bar from the backside of the wheel.

Big f-ing hammer.
 

T_R

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When that happens, I grind them out with a die grinder, then beat it off from behind with a sledgehammer.
 

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What broke? Was it the actual lug nut or the stud it's attached to?

From the reponses so far it's not really clear what the problem is.
 

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A die grinder or a cold chisel. I've had to cut a lug nut off a couple of times & cracking them in half is fairly easy. If you damage the lug they're easy to knock out & replace.
 

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I work in a tire shop i can pump out 30 cars a day alone these kinds of things happen iv seen it all. What i would do from the sound of how it broke is drill straight into the stud. Use a drill bit a few sizes smaller and a swift kick to the rim with your foot. It will brake the rest. facing the opposite direction of the wheel hitting it flat with your foot.
I have a huge rubber sledge hammer at work but often just use my foot.
 

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My joking about the blue wrench aside (it does have its application), in all seriousness its a perfect app for a dremel tool. If half of the nut broke off, just carve a groove into either side, then split it off with a cold chisel or large screwdriver. Either the mini reinforced cutoff wheel will work or else the dental bit.
 
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tremek

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Here thats exactly what i do

info here
http://www.ls1.com/forums/f6/removing-seized-cross-threaded-lug-nut-159243/

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What i would do from the sound of how it broke is drill straight into the stud. Use a drill bit a few sizes smaller and a swift kick to the rim with your foot. It will brake the rest. facing the opposite direction of the wheel hitting it flat with your foot.

This. Center punch, drill a pilot hole, them hog that hole to the max size you can without damaging the wheel. The hit the backside hard and off she comes.
 

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As far as I'm concerned, any wheel that uses unilugs isn't worth saving...

Tommy

Hmmm... Do you recall the Crager Mag wheels from 1974 or so? The hole in the center cast part always wanted to break out when I put these things on the Coates tire machine of the time.

God how I hated working on those rims.

The stem hole was punched with a sharp burr left behind that would cut the new tire stem and cause a leak.. That was only evident when the customer came to get the car and the tires were almost flat.

Then there was the occasional jack *** who did not have the correct lug nuts at all, instead was using lug nuts for steelies so only 3 thread of the lug nut was on. Manager said to service them anyway..

I think that was the only job I ever had where all the other workers and the Manager were nice people.. After that I got into "high tech" and was surprised how many broken misfits worked there.
 

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I was going to suggest drilling straight into it with a bit but tremek beat me to it, 30 cars a day is awesome! I had a good partner when I worked for Johnson's Tires and we could run the truck bay knocking out box vans and trucks. We always did over 35 cars a day, we got all the troubled cars nobody else could work on too. Changing tires is hard work!
 

tremek

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I was going to suggest drilling straight into it with a bit but tremek beat me to it, 30 cars a day is awesome! I had a good partner when I worked for Johnson's Tires and we could run the truck bay knocking out box vans and trucks. We always did over 35 cars a day, we got all the troubled cars nobody else could work on too. Changing tires is hard work!

Yeah im getting to old for this :) I defiantly dont need to go to the gym.

I live where we have a set Date DEC 15 to have winter tires installed so for 8 weeks its non stop car in car out. i eat my lunch of the tire machine balencer bite here a bite there. We easily do a new bmw with 19" runflats in about 15min 2 guys
 

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As far as I'm concerned, any wheel that uses unilugs isn't worth saving...

Tommy
I have 2 Keystone Unilug mags on the front of my Chevelle as we speak. Other than the Chrome has gotten a little rusty in some places I have never had any problem with them and they have been on the rear with Drag Radials as well and no problem there either. But I only use hand tools to R&R. Just my .02.
 

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The op needs to chime back in. Based on what he's saying the stud is spinning itself. A turbo socket or anything else won't work with that. Maybe not even be able to drill it out.

If it is spinning, we put tension on it and keep spinning it until it gets hot with the impact and snaps.
 

tremek

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The op needs to chime back in. Based on what he's saying the stud is spinning itself. A turbo socket or anything else won't work with that. Maybe not even be able to drill it out.

If it is spinning, we put tension on it and keep spinning it until it gets hot with the impact and snaps.

If the stud is spinning and wants to not scratch the wheel. he can do a combination. Remove all other lugs have someone pull on the wheel to make some tension on the seized "lug stud" then drill it out.
 
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