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KEH

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Toyota Corolla in store parking lot next to me. Nothing special about the car, it did have aftermarket wheels which were nothing special now either. They were dirty, beat up, and had curb rash. However, they had unusual lug nuts. They were smooth on the outside and had internal notches cut much like Torx fittings but much bigger. Idid not count the number of notches and did not get a picture. I looked for them on Google but didn't find anything. Some Spanish language stickers on the back window, nothing on the windshield. Just curious. They would make theft a little difficult since a special wrench is obviously needed, unless they were regular lug nuts flats down in the wheel out of sight.


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I ended up with a set of those on my folks' Volvo the last time I bought new tires.

Weirdly enough, I could remove them with a normal socket, didn't even need the adapter :D
 

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VW has a factory locking lug that has an odd # of points to it. They give you a key for them with the car. It looks like a 12 point, but usually it's 13, 15 or some othe uncommon configuration.

I have McGuard puzzle locks on my new wheels, but the BBS wheels I replaced were not held on by anything but 17mm bolts. Like anything else, wheel locks deter the lazy thief. A determined thief will take what they want.
 

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If it is this is one, biggest piece of ****. They all use the same key and rust because of the cheap metal. You buy them at flea markets and at car places that sell junk to teenagers that don't know any better

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I had to rescue 4 UTI mechanics once....Ahhhh good times:beer:

Edit..not at all hard to remove. Get an impact socket slightly larger, hammer on, and zip off. The trick to a good wheel lock is one that almost fits the entire hole so you can't slip a socket over it.
 
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Toyota Corolla in store parking lot next to me. Nothing special about the car, it did have aftermarket wheels which were nothing special now either. They were dirty, beat up, and had curb rash. However, they had unusual lug nuts. They were smooth on the outside and had internal notches cut much like Torx fittings but much bigger. Idid not count the number of notches and did not get a picture. I looked for them on Google but didn't find anything. Some Spanish language stickers on the back window, nothing on the windshield. Just curious. They would make theft a little difficult since a special wrench is obviously needed, unless they were regular lug nuts flats down in the wheel out of sight.


KEH

The way you present this posting it sounds more like your trying to steel the wheels of this car that isn't yours?? haha

You are just looking at either a set of locking lugs, or some random ebay 'tuner' lugs like the above post showed. Either way they are still cake to take off with or without the real keyed socket.

If your just curious about inner-splined lugs because you've never seen any then you've got your answer. But if you or your friends hope to rob those wheels then I hope the car falls on you. :beer:
 

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with the wheels i rock and area i live in im rocking 3 different locks on each wheels. so a person who is trying to steal my wheels is going to need all the locks and longer time trying to take them off
 

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with the wheels i rock and area i live in im rocking 3 different locks on each wheels. so a person who is trying to steal my wheels is going to need all the locks and longer time trying to take them off

I have seen 5 different lock nuts in the rough areas of Sydney, Though the basic fact is. if they want your wheels that bad, the whole car will go someplace quite where time can be spent on it.
 

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with the wheels i rock and area i live in im rocking 3 different locks on each wheels. so a person who is trying to steal my wheels is going to need all the locks and longer time trying to take them off

Hate to burst your bubble, but the only thing that will slow a determined theif down is if one of your locks jams in his wheel lock remover socket while he is "rocking":dunno: your world.
 
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If it is this is one, biggest piece of ****. They all use the same key and rust because of the cheap metal. You buy them at flea markets and at car places that sell junk to teenagers that don't know any better

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I had to rescue 4 UTI mechanics once....Ahhhh good times:beer:

Edit..not at all hard to remove. Get an impact socket slightly larger, hammer on, and zip off. The trick to a good wheel lock is one that almost fits the entire hole so you can't slip a socket over it.

Why not use a 1/2" extension and insert into those "theft proof " lug nuts. Thats how I remove them. Just a 4 point square:lol:
 

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Quite a few aftermarket wheels require "tuner" lug nuts that require a special tool to remove.
The hole for the lug is smaller than standard so they use this style or ones that use a special socket that grips the outside.

My experience with these is with a friend who installed them on his Maxima.
I helped him install them and used a torque wrench and all was well...until he took them to the tire chain store for a rotation and they cracked one using an impact.

He was sent down the road and had a flat several weeks later and this nut would not come off. 3 hours, welders, chisels, blood and appropriate language were used to finally remove it.

Not a fan of the internally splined!

Bruce
 
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KEH

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Thanks for replies. Packofqtips and Jchetty showed the ones I saw. Guess I need to get out more, but OTH I've always bought cars with plain steel wheels when possible. More rugged, don't have to baby them, no stealing. Speaking of stealing the ones I saw, LOL, I stated in my OP that they were dirty , beat up and suffering from curb rash. Unless they had mighty good tires, it would take a dumb, desperate thief to steal these.

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Did the wheels have two lug patterns? A lot of aftermarket wheels have a double pattern 5x100 and 5x114.3 are the most common. These types of wheels require tuner lugs so that the counterbore for the lug nuts don't run into each other.
 
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Wheels did not have dual lug pattern as far as I noticed.

Yep, most thieves aren't smart and can't do math. There are getting to be too many of them though.

KEH
 

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Snap-on, Matco, Cornwall and the like sell lug nut removal tools. They work amazingly well, but as been said earlier you do need room for the tool to clearance the hole -- if the wheel design makes a hole for the lug nut.
 
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