M28 lives!

[Ign]

Rejoice! An M28 brushless tool, and it's even state-side!!
http://professional-power-tool-guid...us-drill-spotted-at-home-depot-model-0757-22/

And while I knew about the die grinder (Strouty and I have one) and the jigsaw I did not know about the foreign market 5.0 battery.

 

[Strouty]

Long live M28 power! Can I send my collet to you for the massage?

 

[ADSR]

Wow! Didn't see that coming.

 

[Strouty]

Wow! Didn't see that coming.

I have been holding out, I would gladly toss all my 18 volt tools for fuel versions of my 28 volt.

 

[ADSR]

I have been holding out, I would gladly toss all my 18 volt tools for fuel versions of my 28 volt.

We'll see if they bring out a circ saw. Then things could get interesting.

 

[Ign]

This opens up a whole world for Milwaukee, if they capitalize on it. There are a lot of tools where 18V isn't quite enough, but weight of the tool/battery is less critical so 28V + brushless could be the ticket.

I'd still love to see them double up the 28V packs on something like a chainsaw, shouldn't be much heavier or bulkier than the 58V Echo. And a brushless 28V string trimmer would probably keep up w the 40V brushed equivalents, particularly if Milwaukee would give us those 5.0 batteries (I believe the Ryobi 40V batts are 2.0).

 

[Strouty]

We'll see if they bring out a circ saw. Then things could get interesting.

I think the standard v28/m28 stuff is still better than the 18 volt fuel. I was trying out my new fuel grinder and it does not work as well as my v28 does. The fuel was struggling a little when I thought it shouldn't, then when the battery died I grabbed the v28 and dug right in without any hesitation.

 

[Ign]

We'll see if they bring out a circ saw. Then things could get interesting.

Or a miter saw. There's a preview of a blacknyellow cordless miter saw at TIA too. And we've all seen the foreign market Milwaukee cordless miter, in M18. But the extra voltage to 28 could make a miter saw more powerful & useful. Another application where weight is secondary as its a stationary tool.

edit: the new blacknyellow is only 7.25"

 

[ADSR]

I think the standard v28/m28 stuff is still better than the 18 volt fuel. I was trying out my new fuel grinder and it does not work as well as my v28 does. The fuel was struggling a little when I thought it shouldn't, then when the battery died I grabbed the v28 and dug right in without any hesitation.

I have the 36v dewalt circ saw and it blows the fuel out of the water. I've never used the 28v grinder, but for light prep without a cord, i love my fuel m18. I'm prob going to buy a couple more so i don't have to change discs much.

 

[ADSR]

This opens up a whole world for Milwaukee, if they capitalize on it. There are a lot of tools where 18V isn't quite enough, but weight of the tool/battery is less critical so 28V + brushless could be the ticket.

I'd still love to see them double up the 28V packs on something like a chainsaw, shouldn't be much heavier or bulkier than the 58V Echo. And a brushless 28V string trimmer would probably keep up w the 40V brushed equivalents, particularly if Milwaukee would give us those 5.0 batteries (I believe the Ryobi 40V batts are 2.0).

If they bring out the ryobi like goods in brushless M28, it will be game over for a lot of players in this game.

 

[Strouty]

I have the 36v dewalt circ saw and it blows the fuel out of the water. I've never used the 28v grinder, but for light prep without a cord, i love my fuel m18. I'm prob going to buy a couple more so i don't have to change discs much.

The V28 grinder has enough nut that I would compare it to a corded grinder. It just won't last as long.

 

[ADSR]

The V28 grinder has enough nut that I would compare it to a corded grinder. It just won't last as long.

Well we need a m28 then

 

[Strouty]

Well we need a m28 then

I have not used an M28, my V28 is probably 7 or 8 years old now. The last time it got abused was on a job that I had to cut 1 1/2" solid steel shafts off flush with concrete. I must have cut 30 of them off in two weeks. I also probably used 100 cut off wheels.

 

[ADSR]

I have not used an M28, my V28 is probably 7 or 8 years old now. The last time it got abused was on a job that I had to cut 1 1/2" solid steel shafts off flush with concrete. I must have cut 30 of them off in two weeks. I also probably used 100 cut off wheels.

That's pretty impressive. I would guess the 36v dewalt would have that kind of power too, but when you put the battery on it, it was like a car battery hanging there.

Needed steroids to use the thing all day

 

[Strouty]

That's pretty impressive. I would guess the 36v dewalt would have that kind of power too, but when you put the battery on it, it was like a car battery hanging there.

Needed steroids to use the thing all day

Between the size, the cost, and the fact that milwaukee had the indicator lights I chose V28. I remember the first day I used one, the next day I bought 10 more tools and then proceeded to sell all my 18 volt dewalt tools.

 

[LordPsychon]

Pardon my ignorance but what exactly is the difference between V and M batteries? I came to the cordless tool world pretty late in the game and missed the whole V/M Milwaukee controversy.

 

[Strouty]

Pardon my ignorance but what exactly is the difference between V and M batteries? I came to the cordless tool world pretty late in the game and missed the whole V/M Milwaukee controversy.

V is old, M is new. The only reason I am mentioning it is because my tools are older and I do not have experience with the new M series tools. The batteries will fit either style tool. This is only true with the V/M 28 tools, the V18 is a redheaded stepchild.

 

[JonnyMac]

From what I can see on sydney tools website the following is available in 28v
Recipro saw
radio
jigsaw
bandsaw
circular saw
hammer drill
impact wrench
flashlight
dust extractor
rotary hammer drill
hammer drill

The 28v system has been down under for years, seems wierd that the US doesnt get it... but then again you guys seem to be locked in to that low voltage stuff!! 110v is a bizarre concept to me!!!

 

[Strouty]

The 28v system has been down under for years, seems wierd that the US doesnt get it... but then again you guys seem to be locked in to that low voltage stuff!! 110v is a bizarre concept to me!!!

We still can get them, the big deal is the Fuel version is brushless all those were regular brushed motors.

 

[trackwelder]

I would love to have one of those 28 volt die grinders or the 5 amp batts.
Anyone know where to order that would ship to the states.

 

[Strouty]

I would love to have one of those 28 volt die grinders or the 5 amp batts.
Anyone know where to order that would ship to the states.

We went through a GJ member!

 

[Ign]

We've had V28 since '04-ish, possibly sooner. We just can't get the die grinder (ie 6mm shank rotary tool), jigsaw or the new 5.0 batteries.

The V series used lithium manganese, the M uses lithium cobalt. The latter performs better in the cold and seems to last longer. As Strouty said, batteries are cross-compatible (28 volt only).

 

[Strouty]

Of course now IGN has more of the tools than I do. I may have to start collecting again, if they could just make them in lime green.

 

[Ign]

Milwaukee also offers the die grinder in M18, only in, well, anyplace that IS NOT the US.

I think an AU member could make a little pocket $$ by putting together an order of the die grinders in both M28 and M18, the M28 5.0 batteries and maybe some other Euro tools (can't remember what else is foreign-market only now) and shipping over here. Then one GJ member disperses via USPS (Strouty was kind enough to do that for me).

OR you can try to find sellers on eBay.au that will ship internationally.

And before another Chicken Little says it: you won't have any warranty here (doesn't bother me)

 

[Ign]

Of course now IGN has more of the tools than I do. I may have to start collecting again, if they could just make them in lime green.

Which begs the question.....do Aussie jigsaw blades interface differently than ours??? .

 

[rice rocket]

Interesting.

I don't think I've ever looked at my 18v jigsaw and thought I wanted more power. I don't cut wild patterns in 4" wood regularly though.

That SDS must be a beast, the M18 Fuel 1-1/4" is pretty powerful itself.

 

[Strouty]

I have the older 7/8" SDS V28, it works very well and I have drilled a few deep holes with it. I would love to see them come out with a big ole SDS max that runs on 56 volts!

 

[Ign]

Interesting.

I don't think I've ever looked at my 18v jigsaw and thought I wanted more power. I don't cut wild patterns in 4" wood regularly though.

That SDS must be a beast, the M18 Fuel 1-1/4" is pretty powerful itself.

Oh I'm sorry, you're confused . I saw a foreign-market tool that I'm "not supposed" to have and thus I want it. It has nothing to do w power LOL

No, it doesn't make sense, but that's not the point. Duh

 

[ADSR]

Milwaukee also offers the die grinder in M18, only in, well, anyplace that IS NOT the US.

I would say in north america we get boned. Canada doesn't get the goods as well.

 

[Strouty]

What do the US and Canada share for issues that would make milwaukee not import them? I know in the US it could be lawsuits, but not in Canada.

 

[rice rocket]

What makes you think attorneys haven't expanded their sphere of influence up north? Where there's money, there's lawyers....

 

[trackwelder]

I'm going to have to make a friend down under
I have a sales flyer booked marked somewhere that had some super nice 18 volt
Fuel drill kits with real nice cases and some sortimo style bins built in. I spent countless hours and emails trying to get one, but was unsuccessful.
I wish Milwaukee would listen.

 

[Strouty]

What makes you think attorneys haven't expanded their sphere of influence up north? Where there's money, there's lawyers....

Canada's legal system has a thing called loser pays. If you bring a frivolous lawsuit to the courts and lose, you pay the other persons legal bill. It pretty much stops **** like the US has.

 

[ADSR]

Canada's legal system has a thing called loser pays. If you bring a frivolous lawsuit to the courts and lose, you pay the other persons legal bill. It pretty much stops **** like the US has.

You guys don't have that law? wow!

 

[ADSR]

I would really like to try this out.

 

[Strouty]

You guys don't have that law? wow!

There was a woman in California that had something like 27 lawsuits going all at once and the Judge said that it was enough, he tossed one or more of her cases. She sued the judge and won.

 

[ADSR]

There was a woman in California that had something like 27 lawsuits going all at once and the Judge said that it was enough, he tossed one or more of her cases. She sued the judge and won.

lol that's nuts!

 

[trackwelder]

I would really like to try this out.

Would be nice!!!

HELLO!!!! Milwaukee are you reading this...

 

[Strouty]

In 28 volt!

 

[ADSR]

In 28 volt!

Or dual m18