Mac AWP050 vs. Snap On MG725

[jonb347]

Okay guys, I have both a MG725 and I just got an AWP050. I searched for reviews of the AWP050 a lot and found mostly questions, not answers. So here are my initial reactions.

-The Mac is SIGNIFICANTLY lighter and the above hand balance is awesome.
-The Mac is easier to change direction and power levels.
-The Mac has crazy power but is pretty quiet.

The only advantage I can find with the Snap-On is that it FEELS like its more powerful. Its not, but it feels like it has more kick to it.

All in all, Mac has made a nice piece. I will keep posting thoughts as I use them both more.

 

[transittech]

You should make a comparison video. I'd suggest finding a semi and pulling the lug nuts (on one wheel), half of them with the SO and other half with the mac, or something similar.

 

[Skin]

I bought one when it first came out for a steal, never used it and ended up flipping it. It was balanced really well but the directional switch was a bit odd where i could see bumping it in use or breaking it off and i absolutely hated the power dial. Theres basically nothing to grip, at least the snap-on has a torx in the back of it. As nice as it seemed they're still asking too much for a Taiwan made impact too. Plus its now rebranded as Facom and Sidchrome so you cant even take comfort in owning a $450 exclusive MAC impact. At least the boot is US made.

 

[jonb347]

i dont have any access to semis in SC but when I get back home to CT i do. I was thinking of putting them together on something and having them play tug o war. i like the power dial better than a snap on. you can adjust it with your finger while the gun is in hand, the snap on one is a pain in the ****.

im all for us products, but the world is going to a global marketplace so if you can make it in taiwan and have it be just as good as here and stand behind it, whatever, we are helping their econonmy develop.

as far as rebranding, if its mac rebranding aircats like the old ones, i dont care for that. but if someone rebrands the one i have...so what.
PS the only reason i got it was because he gave me a crazy trade in value.

 

[LA1Z24]

I have the MG725 at work, about 2 years old, and my boss has a new Mac AWP050. He is constantly going for my MG725. So much so that he also bought himself an MG725 and the Mac is already retired.

 

[xurusaibobx]

i own both the mg725 and the mg325 and the mac 3/8 impact.

both have real good real power with the snapon one being heavier and un-balanced like the MAC. both 3/8 are my go to guns for everything from lugnuts to crank bolts they both can handle. way better then that **** MATCO stuff.

 

[Skin]

Matco's flagships are a rebranded 2135timax and 2115timax....hardly "****".

 

[V70R]

Went through the debate whether to purchase the MG725 or the AWP050 about 4 months ago....Bought the MG725 hands-down. Sealed lubricating assembly was a large factor, and a flat rate rebuild or repair through Snap-on justified the price for a tool to last 5 to 10 years with daily use.

 

[jonb347]

I have the MG725 at work, about 2 years old, and my boss has a new Mac AWP050. He is constantly going for my MG725. So much so that he also bought himself an MG725 and the Mac is already retired.

he must be ocd or something because the only thing better that I can find about the snap on is the feeling of more power..which one guy whos obsessed with tightening things uses mine all the time for.

Matco's flagships are a rebranded 2135timax and 2115timax....hardly "****".

matco guns dont stand up like snap ons do. a friend has one that went out three times in the two years it was under warranty. not to mention you can buy the ir one for half of what a matco branded one goes.

Went through the debate whether to purchase the MG725 or the AWP050 about 4 months ago....Bought the MG725 hands-down. Sealed lubricating assembly was a large factor, and a flat rate rebuild or repair through Snap-on justified the price for a tool to last 5 to 10 years with daily use.

mac also has a flat rate rebuild service. and the mac isn't sealed completely...it has accessible bolts...but you dont grease it.

 

[LA1Z24]

It is not a 'feeling' of more power. It has more power hands down, no competition. A 2 year old MG725 vs a brand new off the truck Mac. Use your Mac non-stop till it fails you on frozen bolt. Then get the Snap-On.

 

[Murphy4570]

matco guns dont stand up like snap ons do. a friend has one that went out three times in the two years it was under warranty. not to mention you can buy the ir one for half of what a matco branded one goes.

I have a number of Matco branded IR air tools, including impacts. They hold up very well for me. Excellent power. I can rip lugnuts off with the 3/8 gun no problem, and break fasteners with the 1/2" gun rather than the thing just not work!

 

[laskt9]

Everyone hates on my mg at my work. They say its heavy and has no power and is loud.

Funny how they ask for it when their guns don't work getting bolts loose

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[mopar01]

I think it just all depends onh what suits you the best.I have a SO mg725 and right outa the box it sucked. Took about two weeks of using it everyday and its broke in. Had it for about five months and its great. Iv used the mac gun and liked it also. I thought it had a lot of power. More than my 725? Lol who cares. Ask ten people and get ten diffirent answers

 

[LGMechanical]

I've been asked for my mg725 numerous times to remove a stubborn fastener no other 1/2 impact could remove.

 

[MattPersman]

mg725 is the bomb

 

[Tarheelgarage]

Okay guys, I have both a MG725 and I just got an AWP050. I searched for reviews of the AWP050 a lot and found mostly questions, not answers. So here are my initial reactions.

-The Mac is SIGNIFICANTLY lighter and the above hand balance is awesome.
-The Mac is easier to change direction and power levels.
-The Mac has crazy power but is pretty quiet.

The only advantage I can find with the Snap-On is that it FEELS like its more powerful. Its not, but it feels like it has more kick to it.

All in all, Mac has made a nice piece. I will keep posting thoughts as I use them both more.

Neither.
Get the Harbor Freight earthquake

 

[Fast LT1]

Everyone in my shop, other than me has an IR gun, or a rebranded matco IR gun. People want to borrow my mg725 so much that i learned to do pretty much everything with my mg325's. I love the new MG series, best guns i've owned.

 

[bobcatdan]

Isn't a lot of Mac air tools made by IR? My old iron body Mac impact was idenical to an IR.

 

[LGMechanical]

Isn't a lot of Mac air tools made by IR? My old iron body Mac impact was idenical to an IR.

This one here the OP is referring to has been engineered and manufactured by MAC.

 

[jonb347]

It is not a 'feeling' of more power. It has more power hands down, no competition. A 2 year old MG725 vs a brand new off the truck Mac. Use your Mac non-stop till it fails you on frozen bolt. Then get the Snap-On.

My mg725 is only two months old. My Mac has been used probably close the same amount of time. Thats why I waited to publish my thoughts

I have a number of Matco branded IR air tools, including impacts. They hold up very well for me. Excellent power. I can rip lugnuts off with the 3/8 gun no problem, and break fasteners with the 1/2" gun rather than the thing just not work!

im not saying they are no good. im just saying that ill go buy an ir from amazon instead of paying markup for something matco sells (it seems they don't make any of their own stuff these days)

I think it just all depends onh what suits you the best.I have a SO mg725 and right outa the box it sucked. Took about two weeks of using it everyday and its broke in. Had it for about five months and its great. Iv used the mac gun and liked it also. I thought it had a lot of power. More than my 725? Lol who cares. Ask ten people and get ten diffirent answers

EXACTLY...I was having trouble finding honest thoughts on each so thats why I wrote my thoughts.

Neither.
Get the Harbor Freight earthquake

NO

Isn't a lot of Mac air tools made by IR? My old iron body Mac impact was idenical to an IR.

No the new mac one is all in house



BOTTOM LINE...they are both great guns thats why I kept the snap on too. But for daily high paced use, the mac is just as powerful and way more comfortable...i will say the mac gun isn't as pretty as my purple mg725

 

[Skin]

This one here the OP is referring to has been engineered and manufactured by MAC.

I wouldnt say that, it seems to be a variation of a theme. Cornwell impacts have been using the exact same design (power/reverse setup behind the trigger) for awhile so its probably the same Taiwnese factory. See CAT4150.

matco guns dont stand up like snap ons do. a friend has one that went out three times in the two years it was under warranty. not to mention you can buy the ir one for half of what a matco branded one goes.

TIMAX guns are more reliable than Snap-On. Even a search here will find you dozens of threads about broken MG325s/725s which isnt exactly a testament to reliability consdering it just came out 4 years ago. To add to that the XT7100 that came before was complete junk.

 

[jonb347]

I wouldnt say that, it seems to be a variation of a theme. Cornwell impacts have been using the exact same design (power/reverse setup behind the trigger) for awhile so its probably the same Taiwnese factory. See CAT4150.


TIMAX guns are more reliable than Snap-On. Even a search here will find you dozens of threads about broken MG325s/725s which isnt exactly a testament to reliability consdering it just came out 4 years ago. To add to that the XT7100 that came before was complete junk.

That's like saying a ford and Toyota are the same because they use the same lug nut. It's all about whichever manufacturer offers the best bid to make a product to spec. They would be sued for pushing it's designed in house if it wasn't.

Forums make problems seem way more percentage of a problem than in e real world. I know 40+ techs and i am the only one who goes on forums....most of which have had excellent luck with mg 725s after trading in their timax guns. And guess what....ir is mass produced in Asia with other brands too!!!

 

[Murphy4570]

im not saying they are no good. im just saying that ill go buy an ir from amazon instead of paying markup for something matco sells (it seems they don't make any of their own stuff these days)

That is certainly true, especially if you don't want to pay the crazy prices Matco charges for their impacts nowadays, which is around $450. I bought mine a few years ago for $350 each, and even then that was a LOT of money.

Another thing to consider, is that not all of us have $200-300 just lying around to spend on something like that. That is where the tool truck comes in, and we can pay $20-50 a week and have tools to get the job done. I owed the tool trucks quite a bit of money for a number of years. Not so much now.

 

[jonb347]

Another thing to consider, is that not all of us have $200-300 just lying around to spend on something like that. That is where the tool truck comes in, and we can pay $20-50 a week and have tools to get the job done. I owed the tool trucks quite a bit of money for a number of years. Not so much now.

amen to that....im in college and work part time theres no way i could afford my tools without my snap on acct....and mac....

 

[Skin]

That's like saying a ford and Toyota are the same because they use the same lug nut. It's all about whichever manufacturer offers the best bid to make a product to spec. They would be sued for pushing it's designed in house if it wasn't.

Forums make problems seem way more percentage of a problem than in e real world. I know 40+ techs and i am the only one who goes on forums....most of which have had excellent luck with mg 725s after trading in their timax guns. And guess what....ir is mass produced in Asia with other brands too!!!

the timax guns are assembled here with largely US components...Theres also far more of them out there than MGs simply due to price, so i think the complaints of failures on a tool forum are a pretty good indication of longevity.

 

[GSteg]

I have the Timax and MG-series in both 3/8" and 1/2" drive. I would have to agree that the IR have been more reliable. My Snap On started out powerful, but I can tell they're starting to lose power.

 

[Chrslertech1986]

Me and another guy in our shop bought our guns at the ame time i got a snap on and he got a mac and when his wont break bolts loose he barrows mine enough said i dont care about comfort as much as getting the job done

 

[wissman38]

I own the mac AWP050 and another guy in the shop owns the snap on MG725. mac is a lot more balanced, light, and comfortable to use, but the Snap On has more power than the Mac impact does however. not by a lot but enough to notice it in a day to day environment. It doesn't bother me though because if the Mac won't take it off, I'm sure the 3/4" or 1" Impacts will finish the job or the trusty red wrench due to the calcium rusting anything overnight in sight that has the slightest bit of steel in it including tools

 

[jonb347]

what wissman said is exactly right.....and the timax doesn't have anywhere near the breakaway torque. i wasnt trying to start a ******* contest here...just offering an unbaised comparison because i couldn't find any.

 

[jonb347]

so my update after a couple months. I have both the 725 and the 050. i consisitant use the 050. the ONLY time i have gone for the snap on is when someone else needs to borrow a gun haha.

 

[Marlin]

And guess what....ir is mass produced in Asia with other brands too!!!

Where'd you hear this? The Titanium line is made in North Carolina in an Ingersoll Rand factory, the only other brands made there are a couple of well known branded versions that have been mentioned here.

 

[mendoza0032]

Ok, I have all 3 Mac AWP050,Snap On MG725, IR T2135TIMAX, I have all 3 in my tool box at work (technician) , yes having all three may be excessive but i do love tools like anyone else on here. My experiences for power MG725 hands down. I have even had other guys come borrow mine when they could not get certain nuts or bolts off.

The Favorite for everyday use for me is the TIMAX its lighter and just all around a nice gun. The mac is also a nice gun dont get me wrong but would be the last gun for me to use and thinking actually just retiring it for home use only and not work.

 

[MattPersman]

My problem with the ir guns is no anvil stop it leads to out of control sockets and it nuts at times

 

[jonb347]

exactly

 

[dappledachsund]

agreed i had high hopes for the new awp050 impact i actually really like the look and design but when it comes to breaking a honda crank pully bolt loose the awp050 cant hang with the mg725. i also own all three the mac awp050 the mg 725 and the cornwell version of the 2135timax all three are great guns i like the feel of the awp i like the weight of the timax but most importantly i like the power of the mg725. lately i have been using the timax tho frofor some reason i dont know why but it is my abuse gun. i drop it lay it in puddles and ive nvr had a single issue with it. i bought the mg725 from a friend getting out of the industry it was three months old for 200$ then i saw the awp and held it and really liked the feel so i bought it. the volume is much more tolerable and i like the handle foreward design too. i feel like the hammers hit harder on the awp than the timax but when it comes to stubborn bolts neither the awp or the timax will break them loose but the mg725 will. just my .02