Mac knuckle saver wrenches

[mreisner]

Other than made in the states, what are the difference between the Precision torque and the knuckle saver wrenches?

 

[richfinn]

Other than made in the states, what are the difference between the Precision torque and the knuckle saver wrenches?

I think the Precision Torque are a version of Facom 440s (made in Taiwan), I once had a set of MAC knuckle savers but didn't care for them much, I love the 440s though, amazing wrenches for the price (don't pay MAC prices, get Facom or USAG versions)

 

[AJHD]

They are nothing alike beyond both being wrenches. Different designs; beam style, angle, offset, etc. are all different.

 

[KnurledNut]

The biggest functional difference is the box end design. The PT box is flush on top but protrudes on the bottom. This can help or hinder.
It may just be my imagination as I have never measured them, but it seems the KS have thinner rings too.
The Precision Torque and siblings get lots of attention and commendation here. The Knuckle Savers not so much. But both are excellent wrenches. I personally prefer the basic profile and standard box design of the Knuckle Savers.

 

[Callelle]

I have PTs/RBRTs for wrenches, friend that I share a personal shop with has Knuckle Savers. I like the feeling of my PTs but there's something about the boxy, chunkyness of the Knuckle Savers that just feels REALLY good in the hand. Other than that, they seem pretty similar with the same style anti-slip.

 

[Snaparxon]

The one set I kick myself for ever selling was the MAC CB series of Knuckle Savers that were the Proto ASD branded MAC. The CLKS series wrenches are blocky, sharp and the open-end was to thick to work on some hydraulic fittings on hoses , where the Snap on wrench would fit. I had the PT series also but couldn't get used to the box-end design. I use both sides of the box end and the PT series was just awkward, otherwise I really liked the feel of them.

 

[mreisner]

I've got a set of the Precision torque short Flex head ratcheting in both standard and metric and really like them, and I have the rbrt wrenches also. I had wondered about the knuckle Savers being a little bulky as mentioned.

 

[KnurledNut]

A comparison photo I posted in another old thread. Knuckle saver second from top. The open end is similar in thickness to the WrightGrip. And a thin-walled box end:

 

[Snaparxon]

A comparison photo I posted in another old thread. Knuckle saver second from top. The open end is similar in thickness to the WrightGrip. And a thin-walled box end:
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The Mac and Wright do appear thicker than the other wrenches in your picture.

In my experience with the old Mac wrenches before KS, you could see the jaws spread under moderate pressure and start to round a nut, put a old Proto wrench on the same nut and it would loosen the nut. Was very common for me back in the 90's to warranty Mac wrenches due to spread jaws, and don't double wrench or you were sure to break the open end!

 

[Andres26tnt]

The MAC PT are facom 440XL rebrands with regular chrome and more sizes available. Very good wrench for the money, I would choose the MAC version if it's on a promo or bogo. The facom skips a lot of sizes and they don't offer them. The only other Stanley B&D brand that offer the full sizes is sidchrome in Australia. Weird as they offer the full sizes under the 441 OVG(Mac rbrt).

The knuckle saver is just a standard wrench design with ASD, also a very good wrench and USA made. Problem is they are rarely on sale and even then cost to much money. The proto ASD is a much better buy.

At the end of the day it's what feels best on your hand. I really love my facom 440XL. Enough to buy the missing sizes from the overpriced MAC PT. Still ended up paying less money then the full 8 to 19mm Mac wanted for their rebrand.

I would buy the knuckle saver if the price was much lower. Stanley can price the proto ADS competitively, not sure why they can't do the same with the knuckle savers.

 

[mreisner]

I was surprised to see that the Knuckle Savers were more than Snap-ons. Originally I had Usag 285x but I needed some bigger sizes that they didn't have and Mac had a deal at the time where if you bought the set of rbrt wrenches you got the Precision torque compact ratcheting Flex heads for free. They were almost the same price as the rbrt or actually might have been valued a little bit more. Originally I was going to flip them but they took forever to come in and taking a look at them I kind of like them and wants I took them out of the package and tried them I was very happy with them.

 

[Madjik Man]

The one set I kick myself for ever selling was the MAC CB series of Knuckle Savers that were the Proto ASD branded MAC. The CLKS series wrenches are blocky, sharp and the open-end was to thick to work on some hydraulic fittings on hoses , where the Snap on wrench would fit. I had the PT series also but couldn't get used to the box-end design. I use both sides of the box end and the PT series was just awkward, otherwise I really liked the feel of them.

I still kick myself for not securing the CL metric set you were selling last year.

I still have the 19mm, I bought preemptively, as a reminder of “the one that got away.”

 

[Snaparxon]

I still kick myself for not securing the CL metric set you were selling last year.

I still have the 19mm, I bought preemptively, as a reminder of “the one that got away.”

Only 9 more wrenches and you will have a complete set. I don't even recall the set of wrenches I had for sale. I remember slightly the fact that you missed out. I hope it wasn't my fault. Were they satin or chrome finish?

 

[Madjik Man]

Only 9 more wrenches and you will have a complete set. I don't even recall the set of wrenches I had for sale. I remember slightly the fact that you missed out. I hope it wasn't my fault. Were they satin or chrome finish?

Not your fault at all. I was in contact with you about them and said “let me think about it.” A couple days later I said “I’ll take them.” But at that point you had left the PM conversation (or something like that - I had no idea that was a thing).

I kept replying to that one conversation, which you had no idea I was doing… and you sold them to someone else a week later or so.

They were the CL metric chrome set. 10-18.

And yes, I keep looking on eBay for the common sizes I use but then realize I already have way too many wrenches, lol.

 

[Wamsutta]

Don't forget that the XLs are the old MAC pattern with the square beam. Ouch.

 

[Snaparxon]

Not your fault at all. I was in contact with you about them and said “let me think about it.” A couple days later I said “I’ll take them.” But at that point you had left the PM conversation (or something like that - I had no idea that was a thing).

I kept replying to that one conversation, which you had no idea I was doing… and you sold them to someone else a week later or so.

I do tend to leave conversations after no activity, to keep my inbox empty, but 2 days seems a little hasty on my part. If I happen across another set, you will be the first to know.