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I was in Walmart earlier today and I went to the tools section to get some over the glasses safety goggles for a oxy-fuel class I'm taking, and I was surprised to notice that a set of Hyper Tough screwdriver set was "Made in the USA with 60% or More US Parts." I knew that they had made in USA knife blades and pry bars, but I didn't know that they had other things. So by this point I was intrigued, so I looked a bit more and I saw a made in USA speed square and a assembled in USA T square. I didn't see anything else but I could've missed something. The screwdrivers look a lot like Great Neck, and the squares are probably made by Great Neck's Mayes Level division. I did buy a 2 piece mini screwdriver set for a tap and die set I have. I'm sorry if this is already common knowledge, but I haven't been to Walmart in a while. I know its nothing exciting but for a Walmart brand I'm surprised. I also forgot to take pics of the squares.... oops.
 

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Just an FYI, which may or may not mean anything at all:
My brother-in-law was formerly the North American Sales Manager for Great Neck Saw (although oddly his "sales territory" didn't include the Eastern seaboard, but did include Mexico and Canada.)
Great Neck fired their entire sales force over a decade ago, so my information may be dated, but when he was with the company, they were still manufacturing screwdrivers in Worcester, MA, and saw blades in Minneola, NY.
 

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I was in Walmart earlier today and I went to the tools section to get some over the glasses safety goggles for a oxy-fuel class I'm taking, and I was surprised to notice that a set of Hyper Tough screwdriver set was "Made in the USA with 60% or More US Parts." I knew that they had made in USA knife blades and pry bars, but I didn't know that they had other things. So by this point I was intrigued, so I looked a bit more and I saw a made in USA speed square and a assembled in USA T square. I didn't see anything else but I could've missed something. The screwdrivers look a lot like Great Neck, and if I had to guess the squares were made by Johnson. I did buy a 2 piece mini screwdriver set for a tap and die set I have. I'm sorry if this is already common knowledge, but I haven't been to Walmart in a while. I know its nothing exciting but for a Walmart brand I'm surprised. I also forgot to take pics of the squares.... oops.
I have to laugh when I see marketing like this. So 60/40 USA/China. What is the point? Either make it in USA or China WITH all China or ALL USA made parts. Made in the USA with china parts is not a true USA tool. Why even advertise this?
 

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I have to laugh when I see marketing like this. So 60/40 USA/China. What is the point? Either make it in USA or China WITH all China or ALL USA made parts. Made in the USA with china parts is not a true USA tool. Why even advertise this?

I have to laugh when I see marketing like this. So 60/40 USA/China. What is the point? Either make it in USA or China WITH all China or ALL USA made parts. Made in the USA with china parts is not a true USA tool. Why even advertise this?
So one second you care deeply about where it's all made and the next you can't be bothered with it.

Got it.
 

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Great Neck is the OEM for these, as well as the Kobalt acetate handle drivers. Decent household set, but they probably won't last long.
 

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Just an FYI, which may or may not mean anything at all:
My brother-in-law was formerly the North American Sales Manager for Great Neck Saw (although oddly his "sales territory" didn't include the Eastern seaboard, but did include Mexico and Canada.)
Great Neck fired their entire sales force over a decade ago, so my information may be dated, but when he was with the company, they were still manufacturing screwdrivers in Worcester, MA, and saw blades in Minneola, NY.
I think Great Neck owns Kobalt. Can you confirm?
 

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You'd rather have a 100% Chinese-made, from Chinese materials, screwdriver?

Why not celebrate the small stuff? This isn't an SK/SO/Proto/Williams/Wright screwdriver set - it's something cheap you can pick up at Walmart. For those to whom this would matter, they even went to the trouble of disclosing how much USA content was included.
 

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i was raised to believe that a half of a loaf of bread was better than no bread at all. We're talking ******* WalMart here, folks.

As for the rabbit trail, Great Necks website shows some relation to a handful of different brands. I don't think Kobalt is mentioned.
 

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Very few consumer goods are made in the US with 'all US' sourced materials. The same can be said with CGs produced in most other countries. Like it, or not, we're living in a global economy.
 

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I would prefer 100% made in the USA, but assembled in the USA is better for American jobs than completely made in a foreign country. So long as American workers aren't just taking parts out of bulk bins from overseas and putting them in boxes just to say it was assembled in the USA. They need to actually be doing some assembly in the USA.

I bet the screwdrivers are blades made in China with the handles added to the blades in the USA.
 
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I would prefer 100% made in the USA, but assembled in the USA is better for American jobs than completely made in a foreign country. So long as American workers aren't just taking parts out of bulk bins from overseas and putting them in boxes just to say it was assembled in the USA. They need to actually be doing some assembly in the USA.

I bet the screwdrivers are blades made in China with the handles added to the blades in the USA.
My thoughts exactly. I'm pretty sure they have a plastic molding machine since the all plastic speed square was Made in USA without a x% of domestic content label. Strangely they have a 9 piece set with the same drivers as the 6 piece plus 2 micro screwdrivers and an offset that said it had 75% or more domestic content vs the 60% that the 6 piece set said. And also the individuals and 2 piece micro sets said assembled in USA. If we just go by the 60% claim my guess would be handle: 50% and the nickel plating: 10%, but there's more than one way to count domestic content in a product.
 

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I know many Americans who I wouldn't want to purchase anything they had a hand in making because they're stupid, incompetent idiots. Regardless, it is odd and sort of nice that Walmart sells something American made
 
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I guess they might be trying to reintroduce what their Popular Mechanics tools that they sold from 92-03 once were. Too bad the quality isn't the same (at least on the screwdrivers). PM had US made screwdrivers (Vermont American), hand/hacksaws (Great Neck), tape measures: (Lufkin), plastic toolboxes (Contico), metal toolboxes and cabinets (Waterloo), sockets and ratchets were made here early on but switched to Taiwan quickly, and other stuffwas probably made here too. None of it was top teir, with the exception of their screwdrivers, but it was an affordable option for a DIYer who wanted USA made and I've even heard that the Taiwan made PM sockets and ratchets are pretty good.
 
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You'd rather have a 100% Chinese-made, from Chinese materials, screwdriver?

Why not celebrate the small stuff? This isn't an SK/SO/Proto/Williams/Wright screwdriver set - it's something cheap you can pick up at Walmart. For those to whom this would matter, they even went to the trouble of disclosing how much USA content was included.
Seems like now days many live in an “all or nothing” world, being totally willing to accept the latter, for the sake of the former.

presumably these assembly jobs are American jobs, but no, not good enough. Maybe with luck the place will close then they can all work at Amazon. There is another thread complaining about their delivery times. :rolleyes:
 

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"Assembled in USA" and "Made in USA with global" materials is better than nothing.

I agree some may even prefer to buy quality US made tools even though they may costs more initially, even avoiding debatable better quality made in Japan or Germany. Reasons include historical events many decades ago. Some may even tolerate USA companies with COO China and Taiwan may products over Germany and Japan, Global economy is too complex to avoid 100% overseas products.
 

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I guess they might be trying to reintroduce what their Popular Mechanics tools that they sold from 92-03 once were. Too bad the quality isn't the same (at least on the screwdrivers). PM had US made screwdrivers (Vermont American), hand/hacksaws (Great Neck), tape measures: (Lufkin), plastic toolboxes (Contico), metal toolboxes and cabinets (Waterloo), sockets and ratchets were made here early on but switched to Taiwan quickly, and other stuffwas probably made here too. None of it was top teir, with the exception of their screwdrivers, but it was an affordable option for a DIYer who wanted USA made and I've even heard that the Taiwan made PM sockets and ratchets are pretty good.
I love the old PM tools. I’m a collector of those they seem so hard to find nowadays. I managed to snag one at the pawn shop today. I use some of them in a professional environment and they hold up very well. I wasn’t aware their early sockets were USA made that gives me something too look out for now. I believe the wrenches and sockets were made by Stanley as they look identical. I sure do wish they were still made because they were some good tools.
 
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I love the old PM tools. I’m a collector of those they seem so hard to find nowadays. I managed to snag one at the pawn shop today. I use some of them in a professional environment and they hold up very well. I wasn’t aware their early sockets were USA made that gives me something too look out for now. I believe the wrenches and sockets were made by Stanley as they look identical. I sure do wish they were still made because they were some good tools.
They seem to be fairly rare here's the only set on Worthpoint that I found:
 

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About 15% of the steel produced in the US cannot be called made in the USA because it uses recycled scrap, and the only way that a recycled product can be called made in USA, according to the FTC, is that the manufacturer must confirm the COO of the material to be recycled, which is nearly impossible.
Also of note is that most countries COO laws only require the last substantial transformation to be marked with Made in "XXXX", which is what our Assembled in USA requirement is.
I'm am not saying our made in USA laws should be lowered at all, but I personally think recycled products should be allowed to be marked Made in USA because the foreign material is far removed enough in my opinion.
 

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That's Stanley Black & Decker's catch phase
mostly becase its way way easier then figuring out which steel and which bolts go in which tools and its acceptable for products where basically all major transformations happen in the us
 

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I love the old PM tools. I’m a collector of those they seem so hard to find nowadays. I managed to snag one at the pawn shop today. I use some of them in a professional environment and they hold up very well. I wasn’t aware their early sockets were USA made that gives me something too look out for now. I believe the wrenches and sockets were made by Stanley as they look identical. I sure do wish they were still made because they were some good tools.
I have a dozen-ish 1/4" drive PM sockets that are Made in USA. The rest of the sockets I have is Taiwan.
 

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I'm am not saying our made in USA laws should be lowered at all, but I personally think recycled products should be allowed to be marked Made in USA because the foreign material is far removed enough in my opinion.
I agree with you - if the material is being recycled (in the USA), it goes through a transformation significant enough to "wash" foreign origins (IMHO). It does become a back-door for material with origins elsewhere that can be abused and thus defeat the purpose of the law to begin with. Lots of companies will take any angle they can, so setting the bar where things are pretty clear and strict is the only way to achieve what folks who want MiUSA are asking for (I'm not a COO-hound - I mainly decide on quality for the $$ I'm willing to pay).
 

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I love USA-made stuff myself .. so understand that up front with what I'm about to say.

I laugh every time someone takes a dump all over someone else's posts due to country of origin.. and then just imagine how pissed they must be every time they have to drive somewhere, watch tv, wash clothes, use a microwave, or pretty much anything else nowadays with most things being made somewhere other than USA.

But again... I do have a soft spot for USA manufacturing. Regarding screwdrivers in particular, I think that unless someone is using them extensively in a pit crew on the NASCAR circuit or something then I think most will work just fine (with some obvious exceptions of course)... especially for whatever someone that's picking them up at WalMart would use them for. Speaking of WalMart screwdrivers, I have a nice set of Stanley Mechanic screwdrivers and Stanley Demolition screwdrivers that I use quite a lot and they're just fine. Made in China.

Just poking a fun a bit of fun since someone here opened the whole USA vs China debate... on screwdrivers lol.

Ok I'm ready..
 

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I was in Walmart earlier today and I went to the tools section to get some over the glasses safety goggles for a oxy-fuel class I'm taking, and I was surprised to notice that a set of Hyper Tough screwdriver set was "Made in the USA with 60% or More US Parts." I knew that they had made in USA knife blades and pry bars, but I didn't know that they had other things. So by this point I was intrigued, so I looked a bit more and I saw a made in USA speed square and a assembled in USA T square. I didn't see anything else but I could've missed something.The screwdrivers look a lot like Great Neck, and if I had to guess the squares were made by Johnson. I did buy a 2 piece mini screwdriver set for a tap and die set I have. I'm sorry if this is already common knowledge, but I haven't been to Walmart in a while. I know its nothing exciting but for a Walmart brand I'm surprised. I also forgot to take pics of the squares.... oops.
Greetings, I'm sorry to revive this topic after a long time, but I have a question in my mind. What is the quality? Are you satisfied with the product?
 
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