There's been some chatter on them recently. They're made in the USA. I like them. I have not seen another rail with square holders in addition to post holders. Post holders from Torin and Mechanic's Time Saver fit, if you want to add more sockets than the included posts.
Made in USA vs Made in Germany
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There's been some chatter on them recently. They're made in the USA. I like them. I have not seen another rail with square holders in addition to post holders. Post holders from Torin and Mechanic's Time Saver fit, if you want to add more sockets than the included posts.
rossomania
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Are you serious? Everything you touch is made in China. How do you think we have a zillion dollar trade imbalance with them? Look at the back or bottom of anything. MADE IN CHINA.
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Most of your mentioned brands no longer exist. KD is gone. USA Sears Craftsman is mostly a thing of the past as Sears is about to be. Danaher sold off it's tool divisions and is now in unrelated areas. Is Cal-Van still around?
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We are at a huge trade deficit with China, well over 500 billion dollars. Trade deficit isn't good, hence the tariffs currently imposed by our government.
Two Problems With the Trade Deficit
An ongoing trade deficit is detrimental to the nation’s economy because it is financed with debt. The United States can buy more than it makes because it borrows from its trading partners. It's like a party where the pizza place is willing to keep sending you pizzas and putting it on your tab. This can only continue as long as the pizzeria trusts you to repay the loan. One day, the lending countries could decide to ask America to repay the debt. On that day, the party is over.
A second concern about the trade deficit is the statement it makes about the competitiveness of the U.S. economy itself. By purchasing goods overseas for a long enough period of time, U.S. companies lose the expertise and even the factories to make those products. Just try finding a pair of shoes made in the America. As the United States loses competitiveness, it outsources more jobs, and its standard of living declines.
pepi
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I'll take made in the USA any day, everyday over german stuff, price and quality being the determining factor.
"How is China dominating our economy?"
Yes. I am serious. I have an MBA in Economics and Finance from Bentley College in Waltham, MA including classes in International Economics. I'd like to know what that statement means, and I'd like to see the objective studies/data to support that.
Here's one study :
How Much of US Consumables Are Made in China?
http://ritholtz.com/2012/01/how-much-of-us-consumables-are-made-in-china/
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rossomania
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Screw the worker or the consumer? Your analysis is sound; U.S. based companies export manufacturing to their China based subsidiary to save on labor and environmental costs. Since slave labor is by definition quite cheap and dumping your waste in the river avoids the extra costs of following environmental regulations the major component of COGS is transportation and warehousing. Thus the cost to the end consumer is far less.
However the jobs in transportation and warehousing (minus the current truck driver shortage which automation is going to adjust) pay far less than manufacturing. Therefore average wages in the trade deficit country do not keep up with inflation (especially with expansionary monetary and fiscal policies) while the average wages in the trade surplus country grow rapidly.
As always in economics there are winners and losers. In the long term however I'd rather see more winners in my country than elsewhere. Part of that is Nationalistic pride but the more practical concern is people with decent jobs and lifestyles rarely riot while those without if they aren't too addled by opiods just might and I'd rather have that happen in someone else's backyard.
Ganymedes
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I agree ,PTU! That´s why I like companies like HAZET, STAHLWILLE,GEDORE,ELORA, f.i. They all are family owned. No ratty guys to confiscate them, like was sadly done to BELZER.......
Most of my tools are vintage FACOM: made in France (1970´s, when I lived in the Netherlands)
) but now, "under the wings" of Stanley-B&D, I would chose for these "free" brands. (I have tools from Stahlwille,Belzer,Hazet,Gedore,Rothenberger,Snap-On,Proto,SAM,USAG,Kukko,Baldur,Knipex,AMP,Weidmuller, Heyco,Bahco,Sandvik,Nooitgedagt,Stanley,Estwing,PB-Swiss) No chinesium!KC Tool, Amazon. Prices are currently dreadful though.
So is Klein.
Weird Tolkienish Figure
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Made in Germany is usually just overpriced and overrated. Made in the USA... neutral.
freudianfloyd
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I am and American that works for a German company.
Most of the tools and equipment we use comes from Germany. Their hand tools are great, and their fixturing is also, but they over complicate everything else.
Their welders can't hold a candle to a Miller. I was a welder here for 4 years, and their automatic welders were made in Germany, and constantly needed worked on. The manual tig and mig welders were Miller, and they ran great all the time.
Most of the tools and equipment we use comes from Germany. Their hand tools are great, and their fixturing is also, but they over complicate everything else.
Their welders can't hold a candle to a Miller. I was a welder here for 4 years, and their automatic welders were made in Germany, and constantly needed worked on. The manual tig and mig welders were Miller, and they ran great all the time.