theoldwizard1
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Making a large "deck box" (low profile shed). I am going use T1-11 siding because it is cheap.
Looking for suggestions to make it last.
Looking for suggestions to make it last.
Making T1-11 last
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Packard V8
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Good luck with that. The rough surface must be sealed with thick coats of paint. Trying to use stain is a lost cause. The exposed fiber ends just wick in moisture and destroys the surface. Paint and more paint will delay the inevitable.
jack vines
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LopezBart
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Opaque or semi-solid stain, renew as needed. I'd avoid the OSB-based stuff. Sun and rain will eat it up if not protected.
Agree with paint vs stain. Good primer too, esp on ends and sides. Prime, caulk screws/nails & paint with good exterior paint. Bonus if you can keep anything exposed from sitting on ground or where it can wick moisture. Use of flashing if appropriate. Paint interior as well if you can. Repaint frequently (every few years) if exposed to UV or if it becomes damaged.
I have a house made with that. I had to sand down the rough stuff…not smooth, but the rough sawn texture. Then primed it twice with a brush making sure that I totally mashed the primer into the groves and filled all the little voids. Then paint with brush with good quality paint. Repaint about every 5-8 years depending on the exposure. 40 years now. The siding moves but has been limited since I did it right.
WisJim
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I used T1-11 plywood on a garage I built about 30 years ago. We just sold the place a year or so ago and the siding has held up fine. I hadn't restained any of it but the south side was fading and could use another coat of stain. I stained it with a good quality penetrating stain and brushed it on well, especially the bottom edges. None other the siding bottom edges were closer than 8 inches from the ground. I don't recall the details of the stain but I know that I had some left that I gave to the new owners.
c39er
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My 41+ year old T1-11....grooves 8" on center building has only had one paint job since being built..till last summer.
Paint was faded and looking old.
Siding now with two heavy coats of good quality paint looks brand new.
Paint was faded and looking old.
Siding now with two heavy coats of good quality paint looks brand new.
whateg01
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I like to prime the edges that get covered up in addition to the cut edges at top and bottom. Just plan on water getting where you don't expect it to and paint it before hand.
24x36 garage built in 96. Skinned w/ T1-11. Intense sun here kills all wood. It lasted till 2014 on the South & West, then started delaminating around plugs & lower area. That was with paint every 2 yrs. or so. North side, no sun is still servicable. I rough patched it & fastened Smart side right over it! Looks very smart know
Stelzer
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1.5" roller covers will get into nearly every T1-11 crevice. I bet I've backrolled over 1,000 homes doing it.
Joemctag
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You must have done it right the first time, including your details and all. Not bad at all, especially in your climate.
This. Prime every cut edge. If there is any way for water to soak into the wood it will push the paint off.
AffableCurmudgeon
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How big is this shed? Just put vinyl siding on it and you will never have to worry about it.
Renegade1LI
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Make sure it's sealed so water doesn't get behind itin addition to good paint.
bwringer
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My house was built with this cheap nasty water-absorbing soft rotten horrible ********, and I wouldn't use it to cover an old doghouse. Paint it all you want; it'll still slurp up water and swell and flake and rot and look like boiled *** in a few years. If you're a nature lover it's great because woodpeckers, lichens, and carpenter bees love to make their homes in it.
Source: just completed the vinyl siding project from hell on my house. T-11 ***** out loud.
Source: just completed the vinyl siding project from hell on my house. T-11 ***** out loud.
I built a small shed last year and went with T-111 because it was “cheap” and easy. It was a in a tight spot so I did the back and side walls which backed up to a fence in the T-111. Went back for the product for the remaining sides and found that Hardi sheets were $25 less per sheet. I went with the Hardi. It takes paint better than about anything. I did seal the cut edges with paint. I’m making garden boxes from the off cuts.
andyvh1959
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I built my storage shed back in the fall of 2005, sheeted it with T1-11. Painted it with Behr solid color stain and haven't touched it since then, has held up really well. My shed is 12x16 with a loft, built on a treated lumber 2x6 deck covered with treated 3/4" plywood. The T1-11 extended down just past the top of the 2x6 floor joists. The deck frame sits on concrete footers set on 6" of gravel, on the original soil. So the bottom edge of the siding is at least 6" above grade. To keep critters at bay I set 4x8x16 concrete blocks on edge on the gravel and construction glue attached to the floor joists. Been that way since 2005, through many Wisconsin winters.
Now,....if I could keep the friggin woodpeckers from drilling holes through the siding it'd be fine. Seems since about eight years ago the woodpeckers decided my shed was better for drumming than the multitudes of large mature trees all over this side of Green Bay.
Now,....if I could keep the friggin woodpeckers from drilling holes through the siding it'd be fine. Seems since about eight years ago the woodpeckers decided my shed was better for drumming than the multitudes of large mature trees all over this side of Green Bay.
Dagny
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Sometimes I think painting something made out of wood is a waste of time. Sure it gets wet but when the sun come out it dries. I like to use cedar or white oak for outdoor projects.
Doozer75
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My house and machine shop are Type-111 plywood.
It is protected with Cabot oil based stain.
Do not paint it. Use high solids oil based stain.
People who paint it will experience failure.
Stain the whole house every 10 years.
Stain the bottom 3 feet to touch up where the rain splashes
every 5 years. I actually covered the grooves in the Type-111
with baton strips sawn from full sheets. Put on with pin nails.
It really makes it look high class compared to plain sheets.
I soaked the baton strips before nailing them up for the best
stain penetration. Almost 30 years and no rot.
-Doozer
It is protected with Cabot oil based stain.
Do not paint it. Use high solids oil based stain.
People who paint it will experience failure.
Stain the whole house every 10 years.
Stain the bottom 3 feet to touch up where the rain splashes
every 5 years. I actually covered the grooves in the Type-111
with baton strips sawn from full sheets. Put on with pin nails.
It really makes it look high class compared to plain sheets.
I soaked the baton strips before nailing them up for the best
stain penetration. Almost 30 years and no rot.
-Doozer
whateg01
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Depends on the species of wood and other factors, like, can it dry out? If it isn't able to dry out, then you get organisms growing in it that cause the rot.
nadogail
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Water is your Enemy, Paint is your Friend, when you think you have everything painted "Good Enough", add another coat of Paint.
kmacht
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LP smart side. It’s almost the same price as T-111 but holds up much better. No matter what siding you use just keep it off the ground. Use a treated trim board for the first 6”
Flying squirrels enter chat. Little mofos are miniature beavers with wing flaps.
The very week I finished my garage the wood pecker strafed holes where ever he detected a missing section of underlying laminate in T111. Thought he was chasing insect bores. Illegal to harm them here. I lucked out as Mr. Red Tail heard the rat tat tat diner bell & solved the problem.
andyvh1959
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Yeah, illegal here too harm them. Last fall heard the "tat tat tat" on the back of the house. Went out to see the pretty little ****** hanging there. Out of frustration I grabbed a bit of gravel and threw it at him, and, "thooop!" into the hole he goes. OH ****, the little ****** is in the attic by the loft. So after chasing it around the attic, and twice he landed on me, I finaly netted him with the net from my Koi pond. Got him outside to watch him fly away. For the moment, in a rush I crammed a white plastic plumbing cap into the perfect 1" diameter hole. Now I recently heard the "tat tat tat" again, and I see NEW hole directly above the cap. LIttle bastards. HUNDREDS of large mature trees all over the neighborhood to attack and he HAS to use my house.
RegeSullivan
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In the 60's my uncle used T 1-11 on his pump house. Every couple years he would spray used motor oil on it with a garden pump sprayer with the tip drilled out. Last time I saw it was late 90's and looked the same as when I was a kid... black and ugly.
SweetD
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Built a shed in 2019 and used T1-11 for the exterior sheathing. Buddy paints on the side and has a nice sprayer - I bought the highest quality exterior stain (his account, nice discount) from Sherwin Williams, and he sprayed it for me. It has held up awesome so far. Mixture of sun and shade daily, and typical New England weather cycles.