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MattN03

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I have a inside door in my 24' deep x 36' wide 2 story shop. The inside door is about 48" wide. I would like to increase it to 72". How do I determine if it's safe to do so? 72" basically would be running the wider header to the next stud on either side of the existing opening as shown in the picture.
 

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A lot depends on the roof load. You could easily spread to 72" but might need to switch to a double LVL header over framing lumber. I would also use more then one jack stud per side for support
 

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Well a picture of the above roof would help. I'm no engineer so wouldn't want to give you a recommendation. But considering most garage doors have double or triple lvl's for an 8-16' span it should more then cover your 72" door opening. I'm sure some internet research could help your load limits of header materials
 
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Here is a shot from outside. I'll get a inside shot in a few minutes.
 

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I have a inside door in my 24' deep x 36' wide 2 story shop. The inside door is about 48" wide. I would like to increase it to 72". How do I determine if it's safe to do so? 72" basically would be running the wider header to the next stud on either side of the existing opening as shown in the picture.

Is it a bearing wall? If so, determine the load and size the header from a table (They are all over the net).

Alternatively, get the next bigger size (Depth) member from what you have. If you have dimensional lumber, use LVL's.

Bill
 

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Show the rafters above as well as where it meets the framed wall
 

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Look up.

If your door plane is parallel to the trusses and the trusses clear span, then non load bearing and you can open it up.

If door plane is perpendicular to the trusses and all other trusses are braced or sitting on a wall at same location, then most likely a load bearing wall and a header would be needed.
 
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The roof trusses and floor joists and current 48" wide door run parallel to each other, 24' length overall.
 

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zporta

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I would just double a 12" lvl to be safe and overkill. And triple jack studs on each side of the opening
 
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What do you mean by double LVL? Also, to get the 72" I'm after, I only could do 1 jack stud per side.
 
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I think he means take the 11-7/8 x 1-3/4 LVL and put two side by side, so you have 3-1/2" thickness. Probably nail off around every 8" at the top and bottom with #16s. I would buy a 14 foot length so you have enough to get two legit 72" pieces. I would go to two jacks on each side. So this is going to add another 3" each side to the 72", so its 78" pieces. Total of 13 feet and still able to cut out of a 14 foot length. Due to the extra cost of the LVL I like to measure, square, and setup a circular saw fence that's clamped to the timber to assure a nice cut. Not needed if you had a sliding mitersaw or radial arm saw, etc.
 
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The previous owners built the shop, and they used 2 x 10 doubled up with 1/2" plywood between. Would that be OK? Lowes and HD near me don't seem to carry LVL's (according to their website anyways).
 

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Doubling 2x12's might be ok but if it were my garage I would rather use an LVL to know that I'm above my load limits. Most lumber yards carry these
 
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Doubling 2x12's might be ok but if it were my garage I would rather use an LVL to know that I'm above my load limits. Most lumber yards carry these

OK, I'll check some of the local lumber yards. Thanks everyone!
 

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It's not bearing. Literally just has to hold itself. No need for quintupled lvl's and 31 jacks. The current header would even be overkill at 6'
 

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All of this and I just reread the first post. It's an interior wall. No bearing whatsoever
 
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OK, so 2 x 12 (or 2 x 10) doubled with 1/2" plywood is plenty for 72" opening?
 

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Yes sir it is .You use some good wood glue and screw it together and you could hand a army tank from it . 1 jack stud screwed on good will be plenty too . Im no builder but I have built 3 houses and my shop here in tornado country and there all still here .

Thank you Jesus .
 
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