Makita 18v Cordless impact

[gte718p]

Anyone have the Makita cordless 1/2 impact wrench? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01JLBII84/?tag=atomicindus08-20
I'm trying to look up reviews of it, but 90% of what I'm finding on the old interweb is shills reposting the Makita propaganda.

Why am I looking at this one? I moved to Hawaii last year. I substantially downgrade my shop from a 600 sqft CNC machine shop to a 3x8 closet in the house I'm renting. My "garage" shares a single 15 amp circuit with the down stair tenants living room. As a result running the air compressor is a complete none starter. The Snap-On MG735 and NitroCat have been resigned to the drawer for the next year or two.

I've come up on a couple of situations where an impact or my pneumatic ratchet would have been nice. I'm already invested in the Makita battery line and happy with the tools I have. I'm wondering if impact is worth the $300 buck they are asking for it?

I would appreciate any first hand experience with it.

 

[American Locomotive]

It's a good tool. You may be having problems finding reviews because you're looking at the XWT08XVZ. The XWT08Z has been out for a little while and has rave reviews on all retailers.

I'm really not sure of the difference between the XWT08Z and XWT08XVZ. I've actually been looking to get the XWT08Z/XVZ and emailed a retailer about it, and they didn't know the differences either. They only thing they could come up with was that the XVZ had electronic braking.

 

[Bobcat753]

Its an awesome impact. My co-worker has one and it is just as good as my Dewalt DCF899HB. I want to get the Makita brushless for my home garage but I have the brushed Makita 1/2" at home and it is still an animal.

 

[BFHtime]

One of the impact models is designed for electrical workers, on high tension power lines. I believe there is more insulation to reduce the effects of the electromagnetic field on the tool, that those high voltage lines radiate off. The ratings were the same otherwise, at least they were around last September, when I checked.

 

[Voi]

I'm really not sure of the difference between the XWT08Z and XWT08XVZ. I've actually been looking to get the XWT08Z/XVZ and emailed a retailer about it, and they didn't know the differences either. They only thing they could come up with was that the XVZ had electronic braking.

I believe you are correct. There might be confirmation of this in the comment section of one of the many YouTube reviews.

The electronic brake has received good reviews on both the smaller 1/2" and the new sub-compact 3/8", for what it is worth.

 

[Tarpley]

I have the XWT08 with a 4.0ah battery and it has broken everything loose that I have used it on. I would recommend it.

 

[Jbullfrog]

I have one in my truck and love it. It handles rusty farm equipment lug nuts with ease. It is a bit heavy, but with no air supply, bulk is the trade off.

 

[CTyankee]

I never had or used one but I'm sure a Milwaukee one is much better.
Figured I'd get that comment out of the way...

 

[Wamsutta]

The only thing I don't like about it is the weird rubber shock absorber between the handle and the battery. I'm wondering how necessary that is.

 

[KnurledNut]

I have the brushed Makita 1/2" at home and it is still an animal.

No doubt. I have the same one and its quite capable. Nicely pairs with 5.0 batteries.

 

[KnurledNut]

The only thing I don't like about it is the weird rubber shock absorber between the handle and the battery. I'm wondering how necessary that is.

It actually is a huge protection for the batteries.
Once you use it, you see why it was engineered that way.
The BL rotary hammer has it too.
Makita doesnt get much love here.
But its hard to deny their quality, especially the pro grade tools.

 

[doan]

I have both of the brushless makita 1/2” drive impacts. The little one is awesome. Decent power and not physically much bigger than a standard 1/4” hex impact. It’s use stops at things that are not rusty or overtightened.

The big one is a brute, but it is heavy. I’ve not found it’s limit yet, also not used it a lot.

 

[PhysicsDude]

I have the older brushed XWT04Z, and its a beast, the newer one is only better.

I think its absolutely worth the price, it has around the same power as high quality air impacts. They're kinda big and bulky, but still more convenient to use than an air impact in my opinion.

 

[American Locomotive]

Makita doesnt get much love here.
But its hard to deny their quality, especially the pro grade tools.

I suspect certain brands tend to "astroturf" tool forums.

 

[Ktmrider83]

I use the XWT02Z and use it daily as an auto tech. Build quality is excellent, size and rpm is unmatched to this day. Can't go wrong with that brute or its baby brother

 

[WittHay]

The brushless 1/2 impact sold in Canada and I believe Australia is the DTW1002Z. Its available in all the the industrial stores up here. Good made in Japan quality.

Commercial businesses like trailer sales/rental places and scrapyards use them.

 

[gte718p]

A decent tool selection is hard to find around here. However, the local Ace actually has both in stock.

08 is a beast. The 02 is awesome. It is a third of the size, weight, and power of its bigger brother. I probably only need the beast once or twice a year. The 02 would be better and more convenient most of the time.

Once final question, I'm debating between the kit and the bare tool. I don't have any 5 amphr batteries right now. Are they worth it if running that beast? If I buy the kit with two batteries I can't order online as they will not ship lithium to Hawaii? If the 08 will not use up the 3 amphr batteries to quickly I don't "need" new batteries, but it is a pretty good deal considering you get two batteries and a charger for only a little more then a single battery.

Thanks for all the feedback so far.

 

[IndyGarage]

I bought one of those a few weeks ago. It's pretty big and heavy, but not nearly as big as my old V28 Milwaukee impact gun.

It's real powerful - much more powerful than my Milwaukee - which was the best on the market 10 years ago. I'd say it's the first cordless I've tried that truly feels like it has as much power as my IR air impact - maybe more.

I tried it on some F550 truck wheels, and it busted them right off. Car wheel bolts are not even a challenge. It's a little bulky on small stuff. So far I like it, but I haven't used it a ton yet.

I have a mix of all sizes of 18V batteries for my Makita tools. I haven't had any trouble running the impact on any of them.

 

[xin]

I think I am goin to switch to Makita myself - that 1/2 looks awesome!

The grip on them is superior to others, I need new cordless tools (it will be Makita).

 

[PhysicsDude]

08 is a beast. The 02 is awesome. It is a third of the size, weight, and power of its bigger brother. I probably only need the beast once or twice a year. The 02 would be better and more convenient most of the time.

Once final question, I'm debating between the kit and the bare tool. I don't have any 5 amphr batteries right now. Are they worth it if running that beast?

I'm not sure exactly what your plans are with the tool, but the 02 has plenty of torque for most applications, and is MUCH more ergonomic to use. It will probably break loose lugnuts on most cars. Heck even the regular 1/4" chuck impacts have almost enough torque to break loose some lugnuts.

I wouldn't spend the money on 5AH batteries. Despite their size, the impacts don't use that much juice, you'll probably go through batteries slower with the impacts than you would with a drill. I usually use my impacts with 2AH batteries.

IMO the 5AH batteries are only really worth it for tools like grinders, saws, weed wackers, etc.

 

[gte718p]

I'm not sure exactly what your plans are with the tool, but the 02 has plenty of torque for most applications, and is MUCH more ergonomic to use. It will probably break loose lugnuts on most cars. Heck even the regular 1/4" chuck impacts have almost enough torque to break loose some lugnuts.
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I do a lot of general car and boat maintenance. What put me over the edge was taking the bolts out of the collector manifold on my 4runner. It took three extensions and a swivel to get at it. Even with that it was a pain to find a place to swing the ratchet. Trying to hold everything in place and swing the ratchet just put me over the top, it is something I normally would have done with my impact. It would have been super easy to hold the extensions in place with one hand and bump the trigger with the other.

Living on on island, everything rusts. Things that are rust resistant rust a little slower, but still rust. Sometime especially on the boat you need that grunt.

 

[6PTsocket]

It's a good tool. You may be having problems finding reviews because you're looking at the XWT08XVZ. The XWT08Z has been out for a little while and has rave reviews on all retailers.

I'm really not sure of the difference between the XWT08Z and XWT08XVZ. I've actually been looking to get the XWT08Z/XVZ and emailed a retailer about it, and they didn't know the differences either. They only thing they could come up with was that the XVZ had electronic braking.

Time for him to call Makita for that question.

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[petee_c]

The brushless 1/2 impact sold in Canada and I believe Australia is the DTW1002Z. Its available in all the the industrial stores up here. Good made in Japan quality.

Commercial businesses like trailer sales/rental places and scrapyards use them.

review please.

I'm thinking about the dtw10002z from amazon.ca for home use. Currently using a decent 1/2" Stanley Fatmax air impact from Cdn Tire (about 5 yrs old).

It gets the job done, but has some difficulties with some lug bolts on my wife's q7 if they are put on dry. I have a feeling the threads are a bit stretched on that one hub. 3 out of 40 lug bolts on the vw and audi give it problems for the bi annual winter/all season tire changes.


Peter

 

[WittHay]

^ I don't own one but wouldn't hesitate one bit to buy one. Have personally handled them and they are made in Japan . My local tool store KMS has 23 Makita DTW10002Z in stock in the Vancouver area stores.

Makita has service centres across Canada and I have always had good luck with Makita products. Lug bolts are harder to remove than lug nuts but any of the new 1/2 hi-torque cordless impacts should have no problem with them. DeWalt, Makita or Milwaukee

Invested in the Milwaukee cordless for the service truck, the Milwaukee mid-torque struggles with a lot of wheel bolts but the high-torque easily removes them

 

[petee_c]

Just handled a makita at a local hardware store.

****! That thing is crazy heavy....

I left it there, wasn't on sale and I was in shock by the weight.

Felt twice as heavy as my metal IR clone air impact.

Peter

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[gte718p]

Just handled a makita at a local hardware store.

****! That thing is crazy heavy....

I left it there, wasn't on sale and I was in shock by the weight.

Felt twice as heavy as my metal IR clone air impact.

Peter

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After playing with them at the hardware store, I decided the big one was to big for what I need. I got the smaller. I think 210 ft/Lb will be enough for what I need. It will be here Tuesday, I'll report back.

 

[Git]

The specs on them look exactly the same (shipping weight is lower on the Z)

I noticed that on Amazon, that the XV was first available on July 28, 2017 and the X was available on February 26, 2016

 

[old-air-performance]

I have the dtw1002rtj , and i would recommend it, its a beast.
Much stronger than all the air impacts that i previously had.

 

[850xpeps]

I have the 1002 for my semi lug nuts. My 3/4” air couldn’t break the lugnuts loose that we’re supposedly tightened to 500ft lb. my makita did it. It is a big gun but works awesome if you need it.

I also have the 285 for smaller stuff. It also has lots of jam. Buy the 5.0 ah batteries you won’t be sorry. They are physically the same size. Anyone who says smaller is better doesn’t use their tools enough. I was gonna buy the bare tool but it made more sense to buy with batteries and keep adding. Never have enough.

 

[petee_c]

After playing with them at the hardware store, I decided the big one was to big for what I need. I got the smaller. I think 210 ft/Lb will be enough for what I need. It will be here Tuesday, I'll report back.

Last fall, I've had a couple lug bolts that have given me problems on my wife's 2011 q7. It was after she got new rubber mounted about 6 weeks prior. Guess the tire shop had used an impact to put the wheels back on, and one of the bolts is suspect.

Anyways, couldnt get it off with my air impact rates at 450-500 ftlbs, put a 5' pipe on a 1/2" breaker bar, and broke the breaker bar. Ended up using an old ratchet and pipe to finally get it off.

My air impact sometimes gives me problems with axle nuts on my 2006 Jetta tdi.

That's why I think I would like the stronger makita, even given its weight and size.

For medium duty stuff, I'll chuck up a 1/4" hex bit to 3/8" drive and put a socket on my makita 1/4" driver and use that to spin smaller stuff off.

Heck, I even use it to spin my lug bolts back on when doing my tire swap. Rated for about 110-120 ftlbs, and then do a final check with the torque wrench.

Just a home diy'er.

The medium torque impact wrench is nice, just have to prioritize spending.

Peter

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[petee_c]

I ended up ordering a Makita DTW1002 from Amazon with next day shipping as I was under the impression I might have to remove an axle bolt from my wife's q7. Luckily, the problem was fixed with a simple remove and reinstall of wheel.

In my DIY garage, The Makita's heft isn't as bad as I thought it would be. I used it briefly on Saturday to do some work on my Honda VFR800 motorcycle. I removed the rear wheel with it to try to find a slow leak that's been plaguing me for the past year or so.

The lowest speed setting with one ugh-a-dugh-a is way over the 80ft lbs that wheel mounts to the hub.

I have three 3.0Ah batteries for it. 2 of them are from early 2008, one maybe 2 yrs old. All home/cottage use.

I'm going to use it for some minor work on my Boxster, removing wheels to do a brake fluid change in preparation for an upcoming trackday (my 1st in 5+ years) if I can get permission from the boss.

 

[gte718p]

I ended up buying the XWT11Z the smaller brushless impact.

I am incredibly disappointing with it. It is supposed to be 210 ftlbs. It could break lug nuts torque to 96 ft ftlbs loose. It is a great size, has good balance, and fits well in my hand, but it is gutless.

Go big or go home I guess.

 

[KnurledNut]

^^^^^^
Sounds like there is something wrong with your impact or batteries.

 

[Ktmrider83]

Make sure your at the 3rd power level. Deep Impact sockets are best for lugnuts..your saying you just torqued it yourself at 96ft lbs?

 

[kctyphoon]

If they have a designated "utility" 1/2" impact that is NOT 7/16 hex drive, or advertised as having a pin detent, it MIGHT just come with a metal ring mounted to the top of the tool so it can be hung off a hook.

 

[gte718p]

Make sure your at the 3rd power level. Deep Impact sockets are best for lugnuts..your saying you just torqued it yourself at 96ft lbs?

Yep,

I have no idea what they were originally torqued to, I'm assuming they were done correctly because up until this weekend the Porsche dealer is the only person to work on this car. Assumptions are bad, but the lug nuts came off easily with the 18 in breaker bar by hand. After I reinstalled the wheels and re-torqued them, I rechecked a few. No joy.

 

[petee_c]

I'm happy with my big makita that I got a few weeks ago, but it is big.

I'm putting the 2nd Gen milwaukee 12v stubby impact on my Xmas list. I think it's due out end of summer 2018.



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[jonesg]

I never had or used one but I'm sure a Milwaukee one is much better.
Figured I'd get that comment out of the way...

Chuck Norris uses HF .

 

[KnurledNut]

I'm really not sure of the difference between the XWT08Z and XWT08XVZ. I've actually been looking to get the XWT08Z/XVZ and emailed a retailer about it, and they didn't know the differences either. They only thing they could come up with was that the XVZ had electronic braking.

One of the impact models is designed for electrical workers, on high tension power lines. I believe there is more insulation to reduce the effects of the electromagnetic field on the tool, that those high voltage lines radiate off. The ratings were the same otherwise, at least they were around last September, when I checked.

BFH is correct. The XVZ has added protection from exposure to high voltages. Its not insulation, but rather, internal additions. If you look at the parts schematics, you'll notice a screw to the gearcase as well as a lead unit to prevent the brushless electronics from havoc.

 

[sam.coll]

BFH is correct. The XVZ has added protection from exposure to high voltages. Its not insulation, but rather, internal additions. If you look at the parts schematics, you'll notice a screw to the gearcase as well as a lead unit to prevent the brushless electronics from havoc.

Do you know if the 7/16 hex model has this same protection, Im looking at purchasing a new gun to be used on live high voltage conductors. In the past we have had to warrenty one gun has the electronic module failed after being used on live conductrs, also had problems with multiple battery's and these have had to be returned to. Only seems to be the newer battery with the level gauge.