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Male pipe plug sockets

ToddC

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Anyone have experience with male pipe plug sockets? DIYer trying to remove a badly rusted differential fill plug on a S10 pickup. 3/8in extension rotates under force deforming the inside square. The detent ball seems like it's part of the problem.

I found these on the web, pros/cons?
SK 41242 : 1/2 drive (<$7 at tooltopia + s/h)
Snap-on PPM412A: 3/8in drive (<$14)
Grey Pneumatic GRE1211P: 3/8 drive impact set(<$29 at tooltopia + s/h)
Sunex tools SX3841 - 3/8in drive impact set

Any other tools that could help? Maybe something that expands as torque is applied (like those three jaw oil filter wrenches).
 
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Merkava_4

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Maybe pound a piece of 7/16" square stock into there.

If it were me, once I got it out, I'd replace it with a male pipe plug.
 

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I have S-K a 3/8 drive 3/8 male pipe plug socket, and a S-K 1/2 drive 1/2 male pipe plug socket, No problems with either.

I myself would replace the internal pipe plugs with external, unless they would cause a clearence issue.
 

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I use the snappy pipe plug sockets, but in a pinch you use what you have and in a situation like this you do what you have to.

Based on what you wrote I don't think a new 3/8" pipe plug bit is going to help you at all. :headscrat

A 3/8 " drive extension should work fine as it is the same size as the Snap On 3/8" pipe plug part # PPM412A that you asked about.
Actually a 3/8" Snap On extension provides a bit tighter fit than the pipe plug bit. :)

I don't see how the friction ball could affect things at all if your using a regular extension . :wtf:
Your not trying to use a wobble are you ?

In this situation it sounds like you have two problems .

One the plug is really rusted in there and two that your 3/8" drive extension was not the right size , probably due to the rusty plug as well.
Either the plug takes a different size bit (10 MM ?) or it has rusted away enough that it no longer fits the 3/8" or both.

By just getting a " bit " that actually fits the size of the plug you may be able to muscle it out.
The best solution would be to try to break the rust bond and then use a bit that fits.

Try this, heat the casting around the plug then let it cool or blast it with some aerokroil .
Then heat the plug good and HOT , let it cool or aerokroil it.
It may just come out if you have broken the rust bond.
Hitting it with a hammer may help as well.
If it is hard to get to put the extension in the hole and pound on that.

Since the plug is that badly mangled/rusted inside that the 3/8" drive extension turns, you need a larger "bit" driver to remove it.
A 3/8" extension is around a 1/2" on the diagonal so the plug must be reamed out pretty good to allow it to turn.
A 10 MM is just a little bit larger than the 3/8" but that may be too small to work then there is a 1/2" but that is going to be too big and you could just use a 1/2" extension anyway.
See the links below for these.

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item...d=1555&supersede=&store=snapon-store&tool=all

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item...id=367&supersede=&store=snapon-store&tool=all

For a one time home use the cheapest and quickest way would probably be to sacrifice a cheap Taiwan or China short extension.
Find a 1/2" one and grind it down evenly until it just fits the opening and pound it in there.


If you have an impact use it back and forth in short bursts, tightening then loosening it until it breaks loose and comes out.

These plugs are usually not that hard to remove.
Once you heat it good, and get a bit that doesn't slip in it ,it should come out. :thumbup:

Good luck.
 

crewchief888

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heat is your best friend :thumbup:

when you get it out, and install a new plug, only "snug" the plug up.
pipe threads are tapered, with a little bit of teflon tape, it will seal just being snug.

:beer:
 

bmxr4life87

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Try a 3/8 impact you do not want to hammer on it but just let the vibration do its job this is how we handle brake bleeders that are stubborn at work
 
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mooman

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heat is your best friend :thumbup:

when you get it out, and install a new plug, only "snug" the plug up.
pipe threads are tapered, with a little bit of teflon tape, it will seal just being snug.

:beer:

wouldn't you have teflon tape in your diff. later?
 

ID_BOY

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wouldn't you have teflon tape in your diff. later?

As long as you don't over load the plug with the tape it will be fine, if there were a tiny strand of tape that did get in the oil it SHOULD (and I stress should) not hurt anything. One maybe two wraps of tape around the treads on the plug no more is needed, I have put teflon tape on many many plugs and never had it cause a problem.
 

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if its loose in the hole you can always shim it with small cuts of sheet metal, i would wack it with a BFhammer spray it with pb blaster then put a shim or two in it and give it a try, its already stripped anyways
 

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As long as you don't over load the plug with the tape it will be fine, if there were a tiny strand of tape that did get in the oil it SHOULD (and I stress should) not hurt anything. One maybe two wraps of tape around the treads on the plug no more is needed, I have put teflon tape on many many plugs and never had it cause a problem.

+1 :thumbup:

:beer:
 

zoso

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I'm not familiar with S10s so I don't know if there is enough room to swing a hammer very well, but maybe an impact driver would work.
 

fatfillup

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well it's been over 3 years,

hopefully he got his plug out by now...

:lol:



:beer:

Now that is darn funny!! I often don't look at the date of a thread myself.

Just to offer my advice and it has been said earlier, whack it and use a fluted extractor. Heat will help if the first 2 don't work
 

zoso

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Haha lets hope so. I did a search for pipe plug sockets and when I read the post I got so into it I forgot I was reading old ones.
 
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