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platform389

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Just when you think you have seen everything. Pay close attention beginning at 9:08. TACK WELDS in a ball joint because it is too small to fit! :willy_nil


This stuff is what lawyers dream about. :shocking:
 
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I've added a little metal to the swingarm bore so the press fit actually fits, but what Eric did is only OK for a demo derby beater or a field car.
 

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I have been a fan of erics for some time. he is a really cool guy. but no way I would have done that. just isn't worth the possible problems. just can't see a couple of small tacks from a mig holding up.
 

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I'm guilty of having done similar. Usually its on an old car where you can't find an arm. In his setup the balljoint can't come out because of the lip on bottom will keep it in the hole even if the welds break. Worst thing that will happen is wearing out a tire for the alignment being off. Remember not everyone can afford to have their car fixed by the book and sometimes you just have to do something to make it safe.
 

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i tack weld a u joint caps on a drive shaft, because the clips lip broke off
 

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I'm guilty of having done similar. Usually its on an old car where you can't find an arm. In his setup the balljoint can't come out because of the lip on bottom will keep it in the hole even if the welds break. Worst thing that will happen is wearing out a tire for the alignment being off. Remember not everyone can afford to have their car fixed by the book and sometimes you just have to do something to make it safe.

:+1: I'd drive it.
 

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Wow, I have never seen work that shotty in an "instructional" video. I can't believe I haven't found this gem before. I couldn't stop watching. Ruling a caliper bad because your big channel locks won't compress the piston back in crocked....what?!?!? Maybe if you used the correct tools for the job....you wouldn't have to buy parts. Poor ways is right!

Ohh and at 27:00 we break a brake line and drain the whole master cyl.....great! Thanks to all the donations I spent carelessly on stuff I could've prevented and misdiagnosed.


Ohh then we take a fresh rubber brake line and crimp it closed with my vise grips.....


Rant over....
 
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Wow! I seen a couple of Eric the car guy videos and would never expect this type of work from him. This is reminiscent of a shade tree mechanic from Craigslist. If I was the owner of that car I would definitely have that ball joint done over the correct way.

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He regularly does hack, shadetree ****. Why on earth would you broadcast **** like that on the internet for all the world to see!
 

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He might not care because as I understand it, he's doing that work for free, in this particular car. But if you're going to do work like that, WHY?

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For something driving on the road, absolutely no. How much weldabe material does a ball joint even have? For an old farm or wood truck never leaving your property, OK cobble away, but anything that can veer head on into on coming traffic, **** no. I have yet to see anything useful on YouTube for auto repair. Either they are drunk hillbilly's going for a laugh while putting a water pump in. Or the most boring guy in the shop rambling on and on, missing my interest before they do anything.
 

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He's worse than I thought. I checked some other videos. It's like watching a slo mo train wreck on film. You can't stop.
I do stuff for free or cheap all the time. I have friends who are not as lucky as me and can use a leg up. But there is no way I would let a friend go out the door like that. I'd front them the parts if necessary to make sure it was done right.
 

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So the original ball joint lasted 12 years and yet buying a new control arm is too much to ask for? Bushings could probably use a change anyway.

I worry this car get sold to a even less knowlegable driver and they didn't know this was done
And kept driving if this so called repair acts up
 

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Wow! I seen a couple of Eric the car guy videos and would never expect this type of work from him. This is reminiscent of a shade tree mechanic from Craigslist. If I was the owner of that car I would definitely have that ball joint done over the correct way.

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Exactly...a few of his videos have helped me when I was stuck before. Personally this is the type of repair I'd do to my own car but not my mothers :dunno:
 
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Exactly...a few of his videos have helped me when I was stuck before. Personally this is the type of repair I'd do to my own car but not my mothers :dunno:
Yeah, I might do that to my car if I really needed to get it back on the road and would only be temporary. Even if I was doing the work for free, I would never do that to somebody else's car.

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not to mention how deep he cut into wheel hub to split bearing race to get it off
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The lower ball joint is under tension. If his welds were to fail, the ball joint is not going to come out of the control arm anyway. I'm not saying it's right or that I'd do it that way myself, but I have changed a fair number of arms where someone had done exactly what he is doing there and the welded ones had apparently been in service for a long time, at least long enough to wear out the ball joint.
 

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He might not care because as I understand it, he's doing that work for free, in this particular car. But if you're going to do work like that, WHY?

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Most of what you see on youtube from him anymore is "free" because he makes his paycheck from youtube pawning himself off as a knowledgeable helpful do-it-yourselfer channel. In a way he is getting paid. Quite decently I might add, 52 repair videos a year for roughly 80k in income AND he started a fund for parts so he doesn't even have to pay for those now either. The "well its free" excuse really doesn't apply. He's a very well paid "mechanic" and that's not even factoring in other sources of income like real work he might still be doing and his occasional commercial.
 

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Most of what you see on youtube from him anymore is "free" because he makes his paycheck from youtube pawning himself off as a knowledgeable helpful do-it-yourselfer channel. In a way he is getting paid. Quite decently I might add, 52 repair videos a year for roughly 80k in income AND he started a fund for parts so he doesn't even have to pay for those now either. The "well its free" excuse really doesn't apply. He's a very well paid "mechanic" and that's not even factoring in other sources of income like real work he might still be doing and his occasional commercial.

WoW! 80k for that level of work !????? Nuts!
 

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While I'm not in total agreement on the issue, I'm guilty of such repairs on my own junk. Customers vehicles however can never happen. Too much liability IMO. Technically it is a 'good' fix, the ball joint can't go anywhere. Insurance wise, no. Some ***** ambulance chasing lawyer that doesn't know a wheel bearing from a u-joint would have a field day with such a repair if so much as the bushings on the control arm were to fail.
 

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I've seen it many times on 80 to early 90's fords when the a-arms where not available mostly on thunderbirds but also a few mustangs over the years. cheap cars, cheap owners and cheap repairs.
 

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That whole video is a mess. So many things not done the correct way. False information given (like the "seals" on the bearing, not seals, those are shields). Just bad. I think a hammer is this guy's favorite tool.
 

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I've been following the guy on youtube since before he moved to the new place. He's always been lazy.

But now the guy gets free tools in the mail 24/7 and a huge shop paid for by youtube and he does even worse work.

Shame all that nice equipment is wasted.
 

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I've worked in repair shops for years, those sort of repairs show up all the time.
The worst I saw over the years was an F600 dump truck that came in with no brakes.
The first thing I noticed was that the front wheels didn't match, they a had different number of lugs on the wheel. My first thought was that someone used a wrong drum or rotor in a pinch, but it went much deeper and was much worse.
Apparently the truck had been in a wreck, they went to a junk yard and found another front axle, spindle, brakes, and wheel. They then cut the straight axle in the middle, and **** welded on another axle. FROM A DIFFERENT MAKE/MODEL TRUCK. Then they had the issue of the tie rods not fitting, the threads were different sizes so they eyed up the front end alignment and welded the new/used tie rod end onto the tie rod that was already on the truck. They just overlapped the joint and ran a bead of weld down each side.
The front axle had four pieces of angle iron reinforcing the weld. The brakes on that wheel weren't connected, there was a vise grip on the hose ******* to the leaf spring.
The truck belonged to a local mason, he ran it up and down the highway daily. When I asked how long it had been that way the guy said he bought it that way years ago. He had been running it that way for years.

We refused to work on the truck and told the guy if he drove it off the property we would call the state police.
It wasn't the only really unsafe repair on the truck, it was in no way worth fixing.
He blew a gasket and called the police himself, we showed them the truck and they made him tow it away. A week later I saw it drive by in the same condition anyway.

My concern about welding a ball joint in like that wouldn't be the weld failing or the grease being overheated as much as I'd be concerned that the weld would leave he control arm with stress or possibly weaken it in that area causing a stress crack or gradual bend.
Are you really doing a customer a favor if the repair you do may only be putting an otherwise unsafe car back on the road? Usually cars that have those sort of repairs or owners that can't afford a proper repair have many other issues that have been neglected.
The number of vehicles on the road everyday with serious safety issues would astonish most people. I worked in a seashore environment for several years, it got to the point where you would drive the car up on the lift before even test driving most of them. I'd find fuel hose used as brake lines, copper tubing for brake lines, missing lug nuts, lug nuts on backwards, disconnected brakes, doors that don't latch, rusted through frames, rusty brake lines, broken seats, exhaust leaks on cars with rusted out floors, you name it. When you gave them a $3k list of work it needs just to go down the road most people got mad and threw a fit.
I started putting cars on the lift before test driving them after driving a car on a test drive and then putting in on the lift to find a tie rod with no nut on it and half a roll of duct tape holding it in place.
 

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My concern about welding a ball joint in like that wouldn't be the weld failing or the grease being overheated as much as I'd be concerned that the weld would leave he control arm with stress or possibly weaken it in that area causing a stress crack or gradual bend.
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Yep. Most arms will have "DO NOT WELD" stamped on them somewhere.
 

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I've been following the guy on youtube since before he moved to the new place. He's always been lazy.

But now the guy gets free tools in the mail 24/7 and a huge shop paid for by youtube and he does even worse work.

Shame all that nice equipment is wasted.


That's how I feel too. Ever since things started going great for him, he's started REALLY slacking off more. At times he seems arrogant.
 

saulvg99

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That's how I feel too. Ever since things started going great for him, he's started REALLY slacking off more. At times he seems arrogant.
He's got to be arrogant or cocky to think that he can put out work like that on YouTube and get away with it.

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