like i stated above. If you ever worked in a factory around machinery, the machinery will break down at some point. It could very well be the case here where the spotwelder missed that weld due to a machine malfunction. The spotwelder could have been out of calibration in that one particular area. It could have been for any number of reasons. That is why it more than likely went to a repair department to be fixed and touched up.
It's funny that everyone is complaining about one spot that was not spotwelded, but no one is bitching about the guy that throwed a ****** mig or tig weld on there. I wouldn't have a problem at all with something that was supposed to be spot welded but was repaired with a mig or tig if it held and was correct.
How about a show of hands how many went running out to their toolbox to see if that area was correct or not on theirs?
Everyone expects everything purchased in the united states and made in the u.s.a. To be absolutely perfect the first time out. But if it was, then no one would need a warranty would they? And how many have warranted their tools because it broke or was not quite right? And as long as it was made good, then everyone is happy? No difference between a tool or a toolbox. If it's made right, then shouldn't everyone be happy? Now people is saying i'll never buy a mac for this reason. Show mac this thread. They're going to lose customers now.
how many of the ones complaining have
found a snap-on screwdriver, a matco ratchet, or a mac socket with the chrome peeling, then turned it in for a brand new one on
someone else's purchase? Would those people be the same ones that complain about quality on someone else's toolbox then want to boycott the company over a missed spotweld?
Here you go.
it shows how a snap-on box is made from start to finish. For the ones that are complaining but have never worked in a factory in a production type of setting, when that steel goes through the punch press dies and pops all of the holes into the sides, that die itself has probably been worked on dozens and dozens of times. The punches the die portion, the guide pins to locate the steel sheets, everything has to work in sync. If one little punch breaks, or if one hole in the die gets slugged up, or even if the punch gets dull, which it does quite frequently, the complete die has to come off of the press to be repaired. To replace just one punch, you are looking at hours of work. The top and the bottom of the die come apart. The die block(s) have to come off. A new punch has to be made from a punch blank. While it's apart you do preventive maintenance on it. Check the other punches, check all of the die blocks, sharpen everything, double and triple check everything. Then put it all back together.
Now mind you that die is only producing one size of sheet for the box. If another size of box is made, it may or may not use this same die. If it uses the same die, that die may have to come off of the machine again to be changed over to run the different panel. That one die alone may very well be changed over to produce maybe a dozen panels. That's what you don't see. If it has to be changed over then the die goes back to the toolroom and the tool & die maker has to pull it all apart again, find what components of the die come off, and what different die components go back on it to produce the different part number of panel. The operator of the punch press has now left it up to the tool & die maker to changeover the die. The operator will then run one panel to see if it is correct. The operator will have a blueprint to look at, he will have a router to go by telling him the key dimensions to check. If all looks good, it goes down the line to the next station.
But if anyone has ever looked at a blueprint of any item made that is a few years old, that blueprint has been changed, modified, redrawn, redimensioned dozens of times. All of that is done between the prototype department and the engineers and the draftsmen. After the prototype is proved out, the draftsman will finalize the blueprint then send it to a manufacturing engineer. The me is a guy that sits behind a desk day in and day out, troubleshooting processes and making up production routers as to how processes need to be ran in order. Once all of that is being worked on by the me, a blueprint is sent to a tool & die maker to start making a die.
Now you have about four or more people involved in just making some tooling and processes to make a side panel. This goes on for every single component that goes into the toolbox. And that is just for the components. Now the box has to be assembled, so you need tooling to hold it, you need a t&d maker to make the tooling. An engineer and a draftsman to make and deliver assembly drawings. Multiple drawings go to the t&d maker and to the me to come up with the process to start assembling the box and then hash it out among all of them as to the best process to do it. Can we weld this, can we bolt that, will a special wrench need to be made to get into this area or that area. Can it be assembled to this point before paint or do we paint it after we are so far into it?
So you end up having dozens of people, dozens of revisions, dozens of machines, dozens of pieces of tooling, and one spotweld is missed on a box or two and let's boycott the ******* company because someone told me that the complete box is supposed to be spotwelded and this is a ******* mig weld. I'll never buy off of those bastards again and i don't think anyone else should either. I have an $8000 box and one broken weld. Wtf??????
Sorry for being so long winded and sorry for going off on a rant. I don't even own a mac, snap-on, or a matco. Why???? Because i can't ******* afford it. If i had the money though i would, but i'm stuck buying chinese **** because that's all i can afford. I would buy better if i could. But what i am doing is defending the manufacturing industry in the united states, that are american workers that are trying to put out a quality product for american workers to buy, that doesn't even have a broken spotweld on their ******* toolbox, but are trying to get every other americans ******* in a bunch because they don't have a ******* clue as to how an american factory even ******* works. And for those people that do that.....don't buy a ******* mac. Turn everyone against them. Then when **** goes downhill and some stuff is farmed out to china. ******* boycott that also.
**** yea.....bring it on harbor freight
At least all of your spotwelds held
