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infinkc

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These weren’t actually that cheap, but come to use the 36mm, I ran into an issue!
 

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Lol, funny story but this week I was helping my niece, complete her new mud room and I grabbed her vise grip and try as I might it could not grip a very large screw in order to turn it. That is when I went to the trunk of my car and grabbed the USA made vise grip and out came the screw no problem. Turns out her no name vise grip was only stamped China, biggest piece of junk that they sell to harry homeowner.
 
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It happens with made in USA stuff too. I had a similar issue with a set of Proto sockets, the physical sockets were correct, but the 17mm was marked as 18mm.
 
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infinkc said:
Took some calipers to them, they are the same. Also the 36mm nut I have just slips around inside. Had another non impact 36mm socket and it fits the nut.
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I think that the left one just looks a little bit bigger in the photo because the lens is directly over it, whereas it's a bit oblique to the other one.
 
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uart said:
I think that the left one just looks a little bit bigger in the photo because the lens is directly over it, whereas it's a bit oblique to the other one.
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Well the left one is the one marked 36mm, so definitely shouldn’t be bigger than the right one :)
 
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My non-reversible Gearwrenches came with the 8mm wrench having a 9mm ratcheting insert. So the open end was 8 & the ratcheting end was 9.
 
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How the hell does that happen with modern manufacturing? Come on.
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Wasn’t there a post in the Craftsman Texas thread that claimed SnapOn had relatively low levels of robotics and automation, and rather relied more on employees?

People make mistakes, especially when doing repetitive tasks.
 
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That is just an error, I have seen things like that many times with many different products. Not a big deal just an oopsie. Yes I bet they would replace it for you.

Want me to tell you about a box of ammo with no powder from the factory, or how about a box of ammo that one cartridge was missing a primer, with powder all over the inside of the box.
 
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When I was young, my first factory job was on an assembly line making sheet metal fireplaces.

Ran out of steel pop rivets being used on the fire box, there was nearby box of aluminum rivets, they were the right size, so I started using them.

Did about 100 before QC caught it and had to rework them.

The 6 factories I have worked in it’s pretty easy to make mistakes.
 
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The cheap impact set I bought a decade ago had missing 15 and 16 mm sockets and instead had 2 13 and 14 mm sockets. They weren't even mislabeled.
 
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zendriver said:
When I was young, my first factory job was on an assembly line making sheet metal fireplaces.

Ran out of steel pop rivets being used on the fire box, there was nearby box of aluminum rivets, they were the right size, so I started using them.

Did about 100 before QC caught it and had to rework them.

The 6 factories I have worked in it’s pretty easy to make mistakes.
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Right, and so many people who work in factories don't even know what they are making. I know, I spent years in factory machine maintenance. 99% of the employees knew they were making car parts, but couldn't tell you what the part did. They just put the raw components in the machine and press the button. Out pops the finished product, they put it in a test fixture, if it lights up green, it gets packed. If it lights up red more than a couple times in a row, they call their line leader, who would call me, and I check the machine over while they go outside and smoke, lol.

I could totally see 2nd shift making 36mm sockets, then 3rd shift making 38mm, and forgetting part of the changeover process; IE- changing the stamp and not changing the machine jig, etc. Even when I was working in that field, machine changeovers were a mixed bag. Sometimes they were easy enough that a line-leader could do it, sometimes maintenance had to do it, sometimes maintenance had to do it with a member of the calibration department, etc. Sometimes maintenance would come in on the weekend and tear down a machine for preventative maintenance and totally screw something up. Friday's parts were fine, Monday's parts are junk.

Lots of things could go wrong. Ahh Meeemorieeeesss...
 
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CoogarXR said:
Right, and so many people who work in factories don't even know what they are making. I know, I spent years in factory machine maintenance. 99% of the employees knew they were making car parts, but couldn't tell you what the part did. They just put the raw components in the machine and press the button. Out pops the finished product, they put it in a test fixture, if it lights up green, it gets packed. If it lights up red more than a couple times in a row, they call their line leader, who would call me, and I check the machine over while they go outside and smoke, lol.

I could totally see 2nd shift making 36mm sockets, then 3rd shift making 38mm, and forgetting part of the changeover process; IE- changing the stamp and not changing the machine jig, etc. Even when I was working in that field, machine changeovers were a mixed bag. Sometimes they were easy enough that a line-leader could do it, sometimes maintenance had to do it, sometimes maintenance had to do it with a member of the calibration department, etc. Sometimes maintenance would come in on the weekend and tear down a machine for preventative maintenance and totally screw something up. Friday's parts were fine, Monday's parts are junk.

Lots of things could go wrong. Ahh Meeemorieeeesss...
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Is that like knowing not to buy a car built on a Monday?
 
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When buying socket sets from ANY brand, check and make sure they are correct ASAP. Duplicates/missing parts happen. It's just the way it is. The sooner you check it, the easier it is to get a replacement.
 
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