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Adam.C

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I'll stay out of the Mac v. Snap On debate. Just a bug in your ear about sizes: Snap On usually offers sets of tools in sizes that make sense and meet customers' needs. Not every tool supplier does that. So pay attention to that. I have a set of impact sockets from Snap On that include 17-19mm, 21,22,24, and 27.

For those of you who are strongly recommending every wrench from 6-36mm, maybe you should qualify that advice with what you are doing with your 20, 23, 25, & 26mm tools. OP- I have heard of guys beating their wrenches onto rusted fasteners- something I would never do (again). The retail prices on these wrenches from Snap On are $50-90. I do not believe there is an active bolt std that uses any of these sizes. (see the sizes thread in my signature line for more information). So I can't recommend these big sets. I would start with 8-19mm, and 3/8-7/8" then see what you need.

Ditto for sockets, be careful about these huge all encompassing sets in a single drive size. I've never found the need for a 6mm socket on a 3/8" ratchet handle. And I've never used 9 or 11mm sockets. You may find these on passenger car brakes, but I use a bleeder wrench for that. I guess my advice is to stick with Snap On's size offerings in their basic sets. I wouldn't rush out to buy 21 and 24mm 3/8" sockets. They may be helpful down the road, but don't rush out for them now.

Last, I like semi-deep over full deep sockets, but get some other opinions, shallow swivels, ratchet wrenches, high performance style wrenches, flex head ratchet handles, and ratchet screwdrivers with interchangeable shanks all to help me access stuff in crowded modern cars.

For normal passenger cars, I don't see much need for 12pt sockets. Any 12pt fasteners I've encountered, I was able to handle with a combination wrench. I do have a set of 12pt 1/2 drive chrome sockets because I encountered some brakes with big 12pt caliper bolts (Land Rover). No knowledge of big diesel stuff so I would be interested to hear what someone who does that work has to say.
 
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powerstroker

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12 point is a little more common in the diesel world compared to automotive. I have a full set of metric and SAE 12 point shallow impacts in 3/8 drive. I only use a select few sizes but bought the full set of each because the price was right. 12 points are probably something you can buy as you need them. I could've just bought the few sizes I actually use.
 

wild cowboy

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Do you seriously expect the dealer to warranty your broken tools for life if you have never spend a dime on his truck? You have to keep a running tab (no matter big or small) to receive good service, unfortunately that is the rule, you have to pay to play. There's no free lunch.

Absolutely, ANY Snap-On dealer gets credited for any Snap-On tool returned under warranty, even if you bought it in Nome, Alaska, or in Russia for that matter! - either a Snap-On tool has a lifetime warranty or it doesn't.

If it somehow depends on the original purchasing dealer to be around, then Harbor Freight has a better warranty.

Good grief! :rolleyes:
 
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pi_guy

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. That is the same as telling a F1 driver to race on the track with a Honda Civic.

An F1 racer or a real racer will race everything. From Mopeds to rental cars & luggage carts.
We spent a day at an alpine slide with several guys that went on to F1 including one who became a world champion. The only thing they were interested in is going faster than the next guy.
If everybody is in a Honda Civic they will all be out there banging doors.
 

abvw

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Absolutely, ANY Snap-On dealer gets credited for any Snap-On tool returned under warranty, even if you bought it in Nome, Alaska, or in Russia for that matter! - either a Snap-On tool has a lifetime warranty or it doesn't.

If it somehow depends on the original purchasing dealer to be around, then Harbor Freight has a better warranty.

Good grief! :rolleyes:

You seem to be oblivious of the fact that the dealer have to front the inventory (often time have to break up complete sets) first before he gets credited. This is why you hear guys here ranting about being denied of warranty because the dealer has to put the incomplete sets aside and loses revenue and potential sales until he gets credited.

You may get lucky and never have to buy anything if there is enough traffic for the dealer on your stop or route. One old timer next door never bought anything but there is six other guys buying on the truck so the dealer let it pass.
 
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abvw

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An F1 racer or a real racer will race everything. From Mopeds to rental cars & luggage carts.
We spent a day at an alpine slide with several guys that went on to F1 including one who became a world champion. The only thing they were interested in is going faster than the next guy.
If everybody is in a Honda Civic they will all be out there banging doors.

What I meant is having the F1 driver racing against other F1 machines using a Honda Civic. It goes around the track too but its not very effective now is it?

:3gears:
 

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You seem to be oblivious of the fact that the dealer have to front the inventory (often time have to break up complete sets) first before he gets credited. This is why you hear guys here ranting about being denied of warranty because the dealer has to put the incomplete sets aside and loses revenue and potential sales until he gets credited.

You may get lucky and never have to buy anything if there is enough traffic for the dealer on your stop or route. One old timer next door never bought anything but there is six other guys buying on the truck so the dealer let it pass.
That driver knows to keep some warranty material on hand for the most common items - his lack of inventory or planning is not my problem - I might cut the Cornwell driver some slack since they are just barely hanging on to stay in business, but no excuses for our wealthy Snap-On dealer.

You just let me hear of our Snap-On dealer giving anyone working for me, including me, any **** over a warranty, and he won't be stopping by my shop again - and that goes for Mac, Matco, and Cornwell as well!

There may be warranty denials happening out there, I can't control that, but they won't be happening in my neck of the woods.
 
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RedneckWelder

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You just let me hear of our Snap-On dealer giving anyone working for me, including me, any **** over a warranty, and he won't be stopping by my shop again - and that goes for Mac, Matco, and Cornwell as well!

Because everybody loves the guy that runs off the tool truck so they can't get their shopping and warranty done.
 

Ckengine

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I have been wrenching on shipboard diesels myself for the past 15 years. As far as sockets and wrenches are concerned industrial brands are a good bang for your buck. At work my tools are provided for me by the company (hard to bring tools to a ship), we use mostly 1/2 drive Proto, SK and some other of the Grainger brands. For my small repair business I run on the side I use mostly SK tools except for my 3/8 drive and they are mostly snap on with a little US made MAC that I got slightly used for a third the price. With the industrial brands you really get a lot of tool for the money and they stand up to some real torture, I have beaten Proto and SK tools and have rarely had them break.

For impacts I use Inger-sol rands at home and at work.

Pliers I go for Knipex, Klein or Channel lock brand. The channel lock brand are a little cheap but they are US made and the Water pump pliers hold up extremely well.

Screw drivers I used Stanely for years and Wiha more recently. I have been thinking of giving one of the snap on sets a try.

I hope this helps and good luck
 

AndrewV

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Op, im just an auto tech, not in your training field.
I did a write up, of what happend to me in my travels from school to nowish. It's in my sig. if you want to check it out.
If you've seen Rugers set up here on gj, you'll see what smart shopping in your field looks like.

My opinoin, buy the big roll cart from snappy, wrenches, impact sockets, and ratchets. Those i feel are the best in snappys realm. The main box is iffy for me. Mine just sits in the shop, roll my cart to the bay, not my whole set up. So in my case, a $5k box isn't needed. But for you, it will be. Mac and snappy both make great boxes, so does williams, and proto boxes. And Blackhawk boxes.

I personally love macs chrome sockets, and universal joints.
And impact gun i think should be IR, or Aircat/NitroCat. Never had one fail on me. Just my bias.
Mac is also one of the few that warranty drill bits. A big plus in that side of the field.

But your choices should mainly come to who is represented truck wise in your area. Don't want to load up on one, and have no driver.
 

redbarron57

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Stay off the snap on truck, pay cash for the **** if you visit the snap on guy and don't get fought up with the name on the tool. I've been in industrial maintenance for ten years and I have ran circles around guys who had the whole snappy epic setup with 20,000 investment in snap on brand tools. I have also seen guys get fired and get all their tools re possessed or have to sell them for a fraction of their cost. Be careful.
 

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I worked in diesel as a mechanic 6 years. There were medium handboxes and toolbags with very few SO tools in the shop at all. No roller boxes near the shop. Yet we got jobs out regularly somehow. Asian tools didn't kill me then and still aren't in auto work.

Use what gets the job done, use a brand you like. Work to advance you before giving it all up to pay a truck balance.
 

Flivver250

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Snap-On and Mac certainly, take advantage of the great discount discount, you can't go wrong. Shop and compare. Also consider Wright, Mayhew, Klein, Knipex and some more Wright (worth saying twice). Buy the tools you want and buy them once. Those brands are a life long relationship. I will not recommend Asian tools for more reasons than quality. Hop Sing is not going to come to your shop and warranty your tools and American made is better and homegrown. Lots of people here will swear by chop suey brands and extol their virtues. Go to a big reputable shop and ask their top gun for some tool mentoring on what you need. In my opinion the Macimizer tool box is the best made. Find a used one where a down on his luck wrench needs fast cash and buy one for 50¢ on the $. Don't fixate on a $20K beautiful box, that can come later. I'd look on Craigslist, local paper and Ebay for the 3/4 in drive stuff. I bought a giant Wright set for next to nothing and it was never used. The big guns get bought but not used nearly as much as 1/2 in and 3/8in drive.
 
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