To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!

Men's Project Night Suggestions?

kaymccampbell

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 27, 2015
Messages
29,517
Location
Upstate New York
Nice, that sounds cool, aside from the idiots.... I'm fine with eliminating those. What kind of liability do you have? Do you have them sign a waiver? We have a large ravine, maybe that will work as a swamp...
The NWA? Insurance. No idea. I think it's in the millions. There are LOTS of rules, signed forms, and cameras to prove it was your fault.
Personally? A couple million in liability, and everyone who comes, gets a tour of the swamp.
 
To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!

GRivera

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 27, 2017
Messages
529
Location
20 mins south of Baltimore
I’m with the “no” crowd for reasons already mentioned- the main ones being freeloading and those who have skills should also have their own space/tools. Plus, on a personal level I don’t need any new friends - with work and my own projects I barely have time for the friends I have now. If you insist, the best way is to have social gathering(s) and build friendships that way - then you can “hand-pick” those you want in your shop…my 2 cents
 
OP
B

benwelder

Member
Joined
Jun 6, 2010
Messages
10
Thanks for the feedback, responses, and real life experiences. What a great forum, keeps me coming back!
 

gmcgeo

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 11, 2019
Messages
3,701
I would be afraid of that one person who comes in and slips on something, then sues you and takes everything you have.
Something that has happened not far from me. One day a guy was walking on someone else property and tripped into a barbed fence, no signs were posted that says " no trespassing" or "POSTED" That said person then sued the property owner and took the entire property after winning the legal battle. In todays world there are ppl who look for ways to sue others.

My advise is check with your insurance company and be upfront on what you want to do. they can tell you your options on coverage and let you know what you are covered and what out of pocket you would have to spend on a disaster or accident.
 

Modern Garage

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 26, 2015
Messages
583
Location
Southern Minnesota
I have a different take on this subject. While I was working I always thought it would be nice to have the shop where guys drop in for coffee and BS, but since I've been retired I've discovered the reason that never happened is because I can't get anything done with people hanging around, even if they say "I just want to watch and learn". I love teaching and do so on a dedicated time frame but If I have something I want done I get very single-minded and irritated with interruptions.
Just my messed up personality, or maybe something to consider...
Joe
 

LeonardY

Well-known member
Joined
Apr 16, 2011
Messages
5,048
Location
Southern California
I've done a couple of different cook offs with the neighbors. Chili, ribs, smoked something. We have had beer and wine tasting nights.
It's faded but not due to the current situation. Kids grew up and we started just having the same fun with them.
 

metlmunchr

Well-known member
Joined
Sep 10, 2011
Messages
1,278
I lived in a subdivision of about a hundred homes for about 10 years. Those of us in the neighborhood who knew how to do anything and had tools to do it with knew each other and would help each other out from time to time. But, as far as everyone else was concerned, none of us knew how to do anything. Otherwise, you get the moochers who want to be your buddy so they can bring over some POS lawn mower not worth $5, and watch while you work on it for them (for free of course) for a few hours.

When I bought my current place, it had several scrub trees and no grass in the front yard. I brought a 580 Case home from our shop to use to dig out stumps and spread a few loads of topsoil to get something going that resembled a lawn.

A guy who lives a couple blocks down the street has a couple full size trackhoes, a dozer, and a tandem dump that he uses doing house seats and other subdivision work. We've known each other since we were both kids. I'm driving up the street one Saturday morning and he's getting a workout with a mattock digging around a stump where he's had a medium size tree cut. I stopped and told him I had the Case at the house and he was welcome to come and get it to use on the stump.

He rode with me up the street and got it. When he brought it back late that afternoon, he said 2 people had stopped and said they had a couple stumps they needed dug out "if he had some spare time". (That's code for "if you'll do it for nothing"). He told them he could do it, but that he was renting the backhoe for $100/hr and they'd have to pay for the rental time on the hoe. Of course, both of them immediately decided their stumps weren't such a problem after all.

My dad had a sign that hung in his office for years that said "The best place to find a helping hand is at the end of your own arm." That pretty much sums up my own attitude, and it has served me well in avoiding getting used.
 

gatewaysysop

Well-known member
Joined
Nov 11, 2008
Messages
3,290
Location
Arizona
Here's the rub and something I'm always concerned about. It may not be the guy you invite in but when he runs his mouth about what's in your garage or shop. He starts drinking with his buddies, who may not be so trustworthy and the next thing you know, your door is kicked in and stuff is gone.


I voiced this concern to the wife about her brother. She claimed he's not a thief and got mad. I explained to her, it's not him I'm worried about, it's his lowlife crowd that he hangs out with and the way he brags. "Yeah, my brother in law has all these tools, blah blah blah."

I don't want people in my garage that I don't know, don't trust or associate with riff raff.

This.

I am extremely picky about who I let into my home. None and I mean none of my neighbors have been in my garage nor have a clue what's in there, and I like keeping it that way. As far as anyone knows, I don't have any tools or know anything about fixing stuff. It's a great system.
 

theundermount

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 17, 2016
Messages
489
Location
ON
I get the whole liability thing and that's how it works now adays. but what ever happened to people taking responsibility for their own saftey? why is it always someone else's fault when they get hurt.....
 
OP
B

benwelder

Member
Joined
Jun 6, 2010
Messages
10
I would be afraid of that one person who comes in and slips on something, then sues you and takes everything you have.
Something that has happened not far from me. One day a guy was walking on someone else property and tripped into a barbed fence, no signs were posted that says " no trespassing" or "POSTED" That said person then sued the property owner and took the entire property after winning the legal battle. In todays world there are ppl who look for ways to sue others.

My advise is check with your insurance company and be upfront on what you want to do. they can tell you your options on coverage and let you know what you are covered and what out of pocket you would have to spend on a disaster or accident.
I get it. It really stinks that we have to be afraid of that.

I have a different take on this subject. While I was working I always thought it would be nice to have the shop where guys drop in for coffee and BS, but since I've been retired I've discovered the reason that never happened is because I can't get anything done with people hanging around, even if they say "I just want to watch and learn". I love teaching and do so on a dedicated time frame but If I have something I want done I get very single-minded and irritated with interruptions.
Just my messed up personality, or maybe something to consider...
Joe
Hahaha! That makes sense. Help out or get outta' the way!

I get the whole liability thing and that's how it works now adays. but what ever happened to people taking responsibility for their own saftey? why is it always someone else's fault when they get hurt.....
I agree. How about some taking some personal accountability and responsibility. Part of this was trying to spread something good, having a space/environment that people could learn to work with their hands etc. Stinks that that a small percentage (freeloaders, entitlemented, sue happy people) ruin it for a majority.


This.

I am extremely picky about who I let into my home. None and I mean none of my neighbors have been in my garage nor have a clue what's in there, and I like keeping it that way. As far as anyone knows, I don't have any tools or know anything about fixing stuff. It's a great system.
I understand that side of it too. Sometimes I'm torn between being happy working in my shop with my own tools, and being ok with sharing a community with people behind a computer screen and keyboard, photos, thoughts, etc, and being able to actually connect with a human I can shake their hand and help accomplish something. Like if we had a Garage Journal gated community..... haha.
 

Mr_fixit

Well-known member
Joined
May 24, 2008
Messages
1,221
Location
Rustylvania
Around here we have the NWA, Northeastern Woodworkers Assn. It started from a group of 5 or 6 to a couple hundreds, with a big woodworking shop in an industrial area. They have insurance and dues and rules. And, lots of idiots. That said, there is an informal group that meets at my place occasionally. More of a coffee klatsch. Bring your own materials and I supply bench space. We all supply advice. Your project needs to leave with you. And, yes, I have liability in case someone does something stupid. Most times, though, we just bury them out in the swamp.
You have to bury them? that's a no for me, too much work.
 
To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!

vrinner

Well-known member
Joined
Aug 29, 2006
Messages
1,078
Location
Placentia, CA
There used to be (kind of still is) a huge all Fords show every year. I would invite all of my like minded car buddies over the Saturday before for a BBQ and car wrenching session for the day/night. Invite the neighbors over for the BBQ as well to help keep the pissed offness down due to the cul de sack being filled with cars for the day and night. Usually went pretty well but it was a one time a year and basically invite only.

I could not imagine doing in on monthly basis though due to everything thats already been brought up.
 

Shiftless

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 9, 2014
Messages
14,540
Location
East Bay SFO
There used to be (kind of still is) a huge all Fords show every year. I would invite all of my like minded car buddies over the Saturday before for a BBQ and car wrenching session for the day/night. Invite the neighbors over for the BBQ as well to help keep the pissed offness down due to the cul de sack being filled with cars for the day and night. Usually went pretty well but it was a one time a year and basically invite only.

I could not imagine doing in on monthly basis though due to everything thats already been brought up.

Are you referring to Fun Ford Sunday?
I went once, a long time ago, with my 62 Sunliner.

Our car club dissolved after most of the founding members got old and sick or dead. There wasn’t enough energy in the newer younger members to pick up the ball and move forward.
We couldn’t have a real club with only a couple of members.

On the subject of knife sharpening nights, a micro brew pub a few miles from my house tried to make that work by bringing a guy in to lead the show. It never happened because the guy charged for his “expertise” some ridiculous amount... IIRC, it was around $40...and you still had to pay for the beer!
 

kaymccampbell

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 27, 2015
Messages
29,517
Location
Upstate New York
On the subject of knife sharpening nights, a micro brew pub a few miles from my house tried to make that work by bringing a guy in to lead the show. It never happened because the guy charged for his “expertise” some ridiculous amount... IIRC, it was around $40...and you still had to pay for the beer!
That'd be tongue sharpening night for me.
 

Bulldog13

Well-known member
Joined
Sep 20, 2007
Messages
1,786
Location
Cape Coral ,FL
These knife kits are pretty easy and don’t take too much time…got em from Woodcraft…easy way to down a few beers sanding 😂
 

Attachments

  • EE7F9EDC-220B-4D5C-B983-23A5EA6A08B0.jpeg
    EE7F9EDC-220B-4D5C-B983-23A5EA6A08B0.jpeg
    415 KB · Views: 8
  • E88503B6-DDEA-4B25-B67F-39C3644BFF47.jpeg
    E88503B6-DDEA-4B25-B67F-39C3644BFF47.jpeg
    366.4 KB · Views: 8
  • 6363454F-60C9-474B-9145-DE313C3513ED.jpeg
    6363454F-60C9-474B-9145-DE313C3513ED.jpeg
    306.8 KB · Views: 9
  • 969164C9-0868-4086-93EF-DAE7C58A4D5E.jpeg
    969164C9-0868-4086-93EF-DAE7C58A4D5E.jpeg
    307.9 KB · Views: 9

gearhead1

Well-known member
Joined
Oct 14, 2013
Messages
1,935
Location
NC
We did something a little similar.......but with people we already knew and have same interests. There was about 6 of us that were into demolition derbies. So we would all go to someone’s house and work on their car and rotate whose house we went to. By the end of summer, each of us had 3 to 4 cars ready to go to the fairs and compete. People have moved and it’s fizzled out, but it was a great way to do it.

Like others mentioned, I’m not keen on strangers seeing too much for obvious reasons.

There are places that have community workshops, so there are rules, fees, etc.

I‘d say ok if you have guys with similar interests that you already know. I’d say no way opening it up to whomever in the neighborhood.
 

Pen & Wrench

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 12, 2015
Messages
658
Location
Huron, SD
If you know single Moms in the neighborhood, I'm sure they could use some help with basic things like changing oil, or other basic maintenance, nothing too involved, but things they could really use some help with, and maybe a break on the cost of materials, or have them pay for the materials.
 

vrinner

Well-known member
Joined
Aug 29, 2006
Messages
1,078
Location
Placentia, CA
Are you referring to Fun Ford Sunday?
I went once, a long time ago, with my 62 Sunliner.

Our car club dissolved after most of the founding members got old and sick or dead. There wasn’t enough energy in the newer younger members to pick up the ball and move forward.
We couldn’t have a real club with only a couple of members.
...
It was the Fabulous Fords Forever at Knott's/Anaheim Stadium...now Irwindale Speedway (didn't go).
 

Shiftless

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 9, 2014
Messages
14,540
Location
East Bay SFO
It was the Fabulous Fords Forever at Knott's/Anaheim Stadium...now Irwindale Speedway (didn't go).
Fun Ford Sunday happened at Knott‘s Berry Farm back in the day.
I believe that the organizers changed the name to Fabulous Fords Forever quite a few years ago.

Does anybody know the details of that changeover and the evolution of that car show?
 
Last edited:

Mainiac Mat

Well-known member
Joined
Sep 2, 2020
Messages
402
Location
Maine
The problem word in this concept is "group". I'd suggest keeping it to a one on one personal invite with a like minded person with common interest. Perhaps find a hobby build (kids swing set, fire pit set up, etc...) that you could each do your own, but work together. Or maybe "oil change knight" or "car detailing night"
 

PhilJohn

Well-known member
Joined
Jul 1, 2019
Messages
204
Location
Minnesota
No. Just no. Unless you don't mind getting robbed and ripped off. It be cool to live in a world where a guy could be outgoing like that, but we don't.
 

Sighss

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 28, 2017
Messages
250
Location
Illinois
If you know single Moms in the neighborhood, I'm sure they could use some help with basic things
Widows, yep.
Got out of an abusive marriage? - yep.
Got knocked up and never bothered to get married? Nope.

Really don't like when all 3 categories get lumped together.

Also, OP it's probably a bad idea.
 
Last edited:
To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!
Top Bottom