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Metal building with rock siding

jtrux

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So, my community has strict requirements for how a new building can be constructed. Unfortunately for me, it has to be all masonry.

Has anyone built a metal building and had the walls done in stone or brick 100%?
 
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I have done buildings with all sorts of siding, including stone. I’m assuming this is a preengineered red iron building for this response. The first item is the foundation design. A stone ledge should be included in the design. The most important item is having the building designed for stone. Girts placed 24” on center will provide for fastening wood sheeting to the outside to accommodate the stone construction. Items like door and window openings need to be taken into account. The termination at the top of the walls needs to be designed to provide clousers if you are going with a metal roof.

You may go in and out of metal buildings several times in the course of your day with lots of exterior treatments and not even realize it. The most important part of this equation is finding a general contractor who is familiar with this kind of construction. You will be looking for someone that does both residential and commercial work. Start by having plans done by a design professional or a design/build company. Do not go looking for a building first.
 
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jtrux

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I have done buildings with all sorts of siding, including stone. I’m assuming this is a preengineered red iron building for this response. The first item is the foundation design. A stone ledge should be included in the design. The most important item is having the building designed for stone. Girts placed 24” on center will provide for fastening wood sheeting to the outside to accommodate the stone construction. Items like door and window openings need to be taken into account. The termination at the top of the walls needs to be designed to provide clousers if you are going with a metal roof.

You may go in and out of metal buildings several times in the course of your day with lots of exterior treatments and not even realize it. The most important part of this equation is finding a general contractor who is familiar with this kind of construction. You will be looking for someone that does both residential and commercial work. Start by having plans done by a design professional or a design/build company. Do not go looking for a building first.

Thank you. I'll look for someone who has done this sort of thing. Didn't figure it was that common.
 

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Commercial buildings are built this way every day. Stone, concrete and steel all expand at approximately the same rate. It has to be accommodated on very large structures but expansion and contraction is generally misunderstood by most of the population. I was part of building a concrete and steel pedestrian bridge that was 600’ long. From the coldest day to the hottest day it was calculated to move 3/4”. In fact over a year of observation it moved 5/8”. No a lot.
 

welder57

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Steel building for you application, could have stud, girts and a wind beam or spandrel beam for the masonry to attach to. You could have masonry or veneer masonry up so far and stucco above that. There are a lot of options for these buildings.
 
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txvwnut

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I built a Quonset hut building and had to have 60% masonry on all four walls of my building. What I did for the metal sides was make a metal frame false wall for the masonry product I used to attach to.
 

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I don't know if you would be concerned about this, but I was told by the Tax Appraiser that if a building is bricked/masonry then it is taxed as if it is part if the house. Any other method is far cheaper on taxes. I am in East TX, so it may be of no concern, but I thought I would offer the info so you don't end up with a suprise.
 
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ncfireman1918

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My father-in-law’s big shop has a partial stone veneer on the lower part of the wall. He a commercial contractor, and they do all sorts of walls besides metal on red iron buildings (as others have stated). Sorry for the crappy pic, I’m out of town for work, and it’s the only one I have of the exterior.

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On the barn in the picture above ^^ here is what the pole barn builder does:
The lower part has a piece of plywood fastened in place of the metal siding and then the "lick and split" fake stone is glue to the wood....... There is a trim piece (j channel style) above the stone to prevent water leakage.
 

ncfireman1918

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On the barn in the picture above ^^ here is what the pole barn builder does:
The lower part has a piece of plywood fastened in place of the metal siding and then the "lick and split" fake stone is glue to the wood....... There is a trim piece (j channel style) above the stone to prevent water leakage.

I’m sure there are a lot of different ways to accomplish the look. My father-in-law started out as a brick mason right out of high school, that lower portion was mortared and laid just like any other stone veneer wall would be.
 
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