Metal ceiling help.

[polexican23]

looking to put metail roofing panels up in the garage for a ceiling. Going to use J-trim around the perimeter to give it a better finished look.
I just dont know what type of screws to us to attach the J-trim and later the metal panels to the wood trusses.
This is a wood structure 2x4 construction and attic trusses., not a pole barn or metal building.

Obviously they dont need to be water proof as if it was going on the exterior.

 

[readhead]

There is a special flathead screw for that but in your case for an interior install just use drywall screws. They will pull up tight and not leave much or any lump.

 

[Kaizen]

Aren’t there color matched screws? I’d hate to spend that money and see screw heads.


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[Hot Rod Grampa]

You can buy painted white screws without the rubber gasket. Common use is securing storm doors to jamb. Suggest pre drilling as they are not self piercing. They would normally be a Phillips drive pan head. Good luck

 

[GS-Louie]

Get a box of 1" or 1 1/2" metal siding screws in the matching color. Put the screws in on the flat section. They will be self drilling. The rubber washers will prevent scratching the panels and possible rust. Using drywall screws will leave dents in the metal.

Lou

 

[readhead]

I was talking about the J trim. The screws will be concealed. Of course color matched wood screws should be used for the panels. That is a given. The metal supplier should have screws to match. They usually come in bags of 250.

 

[glider]

Yes drywall screws will be fine for J channel. If you are thinking about covering walls later. Good time to take care of the upper J channel for them also.

 

[brownbagg]

i know people like metal ceiling because they look cool but damn do they echo, like being in a oil drum

 

[bullnerd]

I used 1/4" crown staples in a pneumatic stapler for all the metal trim.

Hex drive painted screws from the manufacturer like mentioned for the panels.

Again, not all screws are created equal. The drill point ones ****! The sheet metal point ones go right in, no drama, no pre-drilling.

I read to use an impact driver. I tried it but it really beat up the screws, knocking the paint off most. Plain old drill/driver with a clutch works great.

 

[alwaysFlOoReD]

I used 1/4" crown staples in a pneumatic stapler for all the metal trim.

Me too.

 

[spam4us]

If you are also doing the walls, even at a later time, you can get what's called F&J Trim. No need for separate J trims.
Looks like this.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/...eJ-OeOTZQUknMZlWPYvzzyfa6rvrtCTooDUO05zOPaKV4

 

[david1122]

I see the people like metal ceiling because they look cool but damn do they echo, like being in a oil drum, this could helpful for the best result...





Get busy living or get busy dying

 

[gnxtc2]

i know people like metal ceiling because they look cool but damn do they echo, like being in a oil drum

Myth

Don't matter what screws you use as they are covered. I used coarse thread drywall screws.

Billy T.
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[finn]

F trim and drywall screws here.

 

[polexican23]

The walls are already done in drywall. thanks for all your info guys. I have a metric **** ton of drywall screws, so i iwll put them to use on the jtrim.

Thanks everyone.

 

[maxpat82]

drywall screw, roofing nail, whatever nail or flat head screw.
I'll be using my air stappler like for my vinyl.

 

[bullnerd]

drywall screw, roofing nail, whatever nail or flat head screw.
I'll be using my air stappler like for my vinyl.

I thought about using roofing nails because I had them.

But one misplaced strike (which is most of them) and the trim is dented, not like vinyl.

The air stapler lets you hold a long piece with one hand and shoot staples with the other.

JMO.

 

[polexican23]

sooooooo, i got put my ceiling up sunday. I must have gotten the wrong size jchannel (are there different sizes?). The rib of the panel would not sit in the channel, it was waaaaaay to small.I said F it and just mounted it to truses without it. Looks good, happy with the product. I did go with the rubber gasket color matched screws. For some dumb reason I got 2" in stead of the 1" i ordered. They took a little longer to screw down.
My neck, back, and lats are very sore today.

 

[readhead]

J channel usually comes in 1" or 1 1/2".

 

[maxpat82]

J channel are standard in 1/2 -5/8 and 3/4".
but like any Aluminium flashing you can have some bent whatever the size you want.

 

[polexican23]

i am gonne grab some pictures later of what I had a problem with, maybe i can get some better understanding.

 

[polexican23]

Forgot my phone when i was in the garage last night, but i did measure the Jchannel. It was only 1/2". Definelty not what i needed to do the job properly.

Ohwell. Another learning experience for when i move out of this crappy over taxed state and build a bigger better garage.

 

[polexican23]

Anyone have any suggestions on cutting out a proper opening for an attic. I already had it framed out, but for ease of getting the ceiling installed we just went right over it and I planned on cutting it out later.

Well it is later. Should i get a metal router bit, jigsaw, cutoffwheel, snips, other?

 

[maxpat82]

Rough cut with a jigsaw or reciprocating saw and clean cut with snips.

for the last lon straight line on a plain surface you can just scribe it with a knive and bend it (multiple time)to break it and it make a really nice cut. (Just like vinyl or aluminium siding.

cut off wheel would do quick work but I'm not a fan of sparks(if steel) and heat the piece to burn the paint around the cut :|

 

[brendelac]

I have a related question of my own and am fairly inexperienced:

I'm doing a metal ceiling with J-trim and 1/2" OSB walls. Should I be putting the J-trim up against the wall studs with the OSB installed below it or leave 1/2" between the wall studs and J-trim to install the OSB tight to the ceiling joists? Is it easier to install or the ceiling before the walls or vise versa or does it even make a difference?

Thanks.

 

[1MtnGoat]

Leave a space behind the J-channel for the SOB to go behind. You will have a neater job. Use a scrap of OSB to properly space the channel from the studs. Be careful not to push the ceiling panels too tight to the J-channel or it will close the gap a bit making it difficult to push the OSB behind the channel. I just hung 3000+sq ft. of metal ceiling. Then 101 sheets of 1/2" B/C plywood on the walls. Ill be posting up my build in a month or so as soon as I'm done. Good Luck

 

[HoosierMark]

Get the trim piece in post 11. I just had this done when my metal ceiling was installed. Now I am installing OSB on side walls. It slides right up into the trim.

 

[brendelac]

Thanks for the responses. That F&J trim looks great except that I already purchased the J trim a long time ago.

 

[Coyote556]

Roofing coil nail gun

 

[polexican23]

I had my walls up before my metal ceiling. cause i just didnt have the funds at the time to purchase the ceiling material.