Metal shop plans

[flatratedog]

I am currently trying to build a small shop on my property. It’s going to be a weld up. I’ve got all the materials and tools I’ll need. The problem I’m facing that has not been a problem in the past. The property is now within city limits and a permit is required.
My question being here is how are you guys getting your building plans? The city wants official stamped plans.
I’ve been able to find plans online from everything from whole houses to doghouses, no where could I find a place to buy plans for a metal building. Does anyone have any suggestions?

 

[Garcky]

I am currently trying to build a small shop on my property. It’s going to be a weld up. I’ve got all the materials and tools I’ll need. The problem I’m facing that has not been a problem in the past. The property is now within city limits and a permit is required.
My question being here is how are you guys getting your building plans? The city wants official stamped plans.
I’ve been able to find plans online from everything from whole houses to doghouses, no where could I find a place to buy plans for a metal building. Does anyone have any suggestions?

No suggestions. City building departments have tons of trouble with anything that isn't typical construction. Everything else has to come with engineered plans to get a permit, if it even fits into their concept of what's OK and not OK. It's one of the "benefits" of living in an incorporated city. Now, if you lived in a rural area, you could call your building an "agricultural structure" and pretty much build it however you wanted. Not in the city, though.

Often, those building or planning departments will have some stock plans for typical Garage buildings that you can follow. Or maybe not. While it might not make sense to you, you may not always be the owner of that property. The city wants whatever is built to be within the norm and safe for whoever uses it. That's the reason for building codes, engineered plans, etc. You can't just throw something up, I'm afraid. Not in the city limits.

However, there are plans for welded steel buildings:

Welded steel workshop building plans - Google Search

 

[dcg9381]

My question being here is how are you guys getting your building plans? The city wants official stamped plans.
I’ve been able to find plans online from everything from whole houses to doghouses, no where could I find a place to buy plans for a metal building. Does anyone have any suggestions?

You need to talk to your mental supplier and see if they can help with stamped plans. Mueller here will do that, if you buy their steel.
Around here, weld up (cost less) - but does not come with stamped plans.
If you want stamped plans, you need to buy bolt up. Those come with a stamp.

If you're just buying supplies, you're probably going to have to get a structural engineer to draw plans for you and stamp them.

 

[readhead]

Weld up buildings are usually individually engineered and stamped which is handy because the engineer will already have the reactions to design the foundation.
Keep in mind that you may not be able to use the material you have once you get the engineered plans.

 

[PatY]

The local company that my builder used for all of his metal and building supplies has an architecture firm they use. I only had to tell them what I want and I paid them for the stamped blue prints.

 

[jack stand]

Time to move out of town, **** like this only gets worse.

 

[flatratedog]

The local company that my builder used for all of his metal and building supplies has an architecture firm they use. I only had to tell them what I want and I paid them for the stamped blue prints.

I’ve got a couple calls in to some places. Do you recall if the Cost of the plans was reasonable?

 

[Hobby_Man22]

You have to find an engineer design a plan and put his stamp on it. That's how my building was. The building maker has an in house engineer that you get plans from when you purchase the building along with assembly instructions. I had to have my own engineer make a foundation plan that had his stamp on it that showed proper footing locations.

 

[Hobby_Man22]

Time to move out of town, **** like this only gets worse.

I keep hearing this. So if you live out in the county they don't require a building permit at all? I've heard it's hard to get property insurance because of this. Nobody has permits, so companies are relunctant to issue a policy.

 

[jack stand]

The OP apparently got annexed in to the "city/town" and is experiencing the effects of an overbearing bureaucracy.
I've had 2 houses that were built prior to permits ever existed, never once questioned in any way when it came to insuring them.
I don't have any objection to reasonable permitting for someone's house, but a structure that nobody's sleeping in is off limits in my book.

 

[PatY]

I’ve got a couple calls in to some places. Do you recall if the Cost of the plans was reasonable?

It was just under $600.00 for three stamped copies.

 

[Rusted Nut]

Do you have any plans right now? If yes, then whoever drew those may be able to get an engineered stamp.
Also, many times on stamped welded designs, the local jurisdiction will require a special inspection agency to inspect the welds. A special inspector is a private company who inspects and turns reports in to local jurisdiction. There are periodic and continuous inspections. 3/8” filet single pass welds are usually periodic. Periodic usually means inspected when complete; but not always, check with special inspector. Multi pass or greater than 3/8” welds, slip critical, etc… require continuous inspection. You will also need welding certs for whatever process and weld types you are performing (D 1.1/1.4, etc.) Continuous means you are paying a special inspector to stand and watch you prep and weld. This can get expensive. If you are stick welding you’ll probably need a rod oven. Maybe check with local building dept to see what they require.