Metl-Former vise - how to get handle off

[RichTes]

I want to remove the handle and screw from the moving end of a little Metl-Former vise. The impressions look like crimps but I don't see a pin in the larger part close to the casting. The outer part with the handle I didn't see any pins either

Could be corroded and hidden

Thanks,
Rich

 

[RTM]

I’d guess a retaining ring/clip, the thin rusty thing just above the notch in the shaft in the second picture. If you rotate the handle while it’s on its back, you may find a gap of some nature, which could decide how you take it apart. The fatter sorta shiny piece above it should not be it.

 

[dapekema]

I just ran across this on a recent vise disassembly. There was a retaining ring (roughly the thickness of the two combined in your photo) with a small gap in the ring around a recess in the shaft. I heated the ring red hot with a propane torch, stuck a pair of stout needle nose in the 1/8" gap and pried the ring opening wide enough to slide off the shaft. My game plan is to reverse the process at reassembly time.

 

[paulsomlo]

The "impressions" may serve to get a small flat blade screwdriver underneath a retaining ring for prying.

 

[RichTes]

I just ran across this on a recent vise disassembly. There was a retaining ring (roughly the thickness of the two combined in your photo) with a small gap in the ring around a recess in the shaft. I heated the ring red hot with a propane torch, stuck a pair of stout needle nose in the 1/8" gap and pried the ring opening wide enough to slide off the shaft. My game plan is to reverse the process at reassembly time.

Hi,
Just looked and the two small rings are solid all the way around. They're not split rings.
Rich

 

[paulsomlo]

Here's another example of that vise - double click the image to enlarge it:


The "indents" go all the way around the spindle, and my guess is the thick ring is a retainer and there are several thrust washers. I just can't see how the retainer can be backed off.

 

[RichTes]

I'm starting to think the shaft was made, indents were added which pushed up metal around and then the collar was press fitted.

 

[paulsomlo]

I'm starting to think the shaft was made, indents were added which pushed up metal around and then the collar was press fitted.

The diameter does look slightly larger in that area - do you have calipers and can you get in there to measure? I suppose you could try pressing the spindle out of the casting, see if it moves.

 

[paulsomlo]

Well?

 

[RichTes]

Gave up. Going to paint around. I was concerned if I pushed off wouldn't go back on and I'd end up drilling for a pin. Got so many things to fix that risking breaking this one more didn't make much sense.