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jbighump

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getting ready to pull the trigger on one of these....i know this has been covered a million times but i wanted to see which one holds up longer under abuse. i know from a search the consensus is the snap on is more powerful but how do they compare in durability:D thanks in advance
 
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Durability? For me, it's the IR. The power has been the same as when I first bought it, and I use it to remove lug nuts and whatnot. It has plenty of power behind it for 3/8" applications. Sure the MG325 has a bit more power, but not enough to over look the IR's advantages.
 

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The 2115 was my tool buy of the year. I love that thing. Light weight and powerful. Don't have to use the 1/2" as much. I don't have any experience with the S/O one but I am sold on the 2115.
 

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get a 1355xl from aircat and dont look back
The 325 is pretty slim and tiny but kinda pricey; and the IR is a nice unit but
i had a 2115timax and it was a little gutless; that aircat is a real monster
 

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My 2115 was money well spent. Lighter, more balanced, nicer trigger, easier(imo) to use power and fwd/rev controls. Like mentioned already the mg325 has slightly more power, but chances are if the IR can't move something then the snapon won't either and you'll end up pulling out the 1/2"
 

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MG325. Just got one, and it was worth every penny. Very small and very powerful
 

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Owned both guns, power is comparable between both although the IR I find is more user friendly as far as the trigger controls concerning direction and "power level". IR durability and can be had considerably cheaper than snappy counterpart.
 

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I love my mg325. I bought my used and its has guts. It gets into those smaller areas. Money well spent
 

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SNAP ON just released a MG3255 which is a 1/2 anvil on a 3/8 body sweet gun...

i have both IR and Snap on 3/8 and 1/2 guns
 

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2115
a hair smaller
lighter
user repairable from top to bottom
composite housing
very friendly controls

mg325
sealed hammer mechanism however you still need to use air tool oil
metal housing (magnesium alloy)
anvil brake (personally don't think this means much)
flat rate repair (about $130 last time I checked-included shipping)
comes with a muffler that can be installed or removed

2115 cons
loud unless you get a qtimax
technically requires a small grease kit to properly lubricate the anvil housing

325 cons
paint flakes off the body very easily.
you're essentially stuck in whatever power mode you're in unless you keep a torx with you.
If the sealed motor fails you're SOL (off to the repair facility!).
List Price is ~$400 (On ebay you should be able to score a new one fairly easily for $275-$300)
Its the strangest thing but the 325 seems to wear through anvil rings very quick so I have a small bag of spares. Very annoying when the sockets start to fall off.


Power wise they're about even. Honestly this question is a no brainer to me. 325 is a really nice impact, but so is the 2115 and its less prone to failure, wont look like complete **** after a few years in a shop environment, and is about half the price.
 
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325 cons

If the sealed motor fails you're SOL (off to the repair facility!).


I don't mean to argue but this isn't true. It's not the air motor thats sealed, it's the hammer case thats sealed but it's fully serviceable and re sealable. I repaired my co workers MG325 last summer for a broken hammer case nose cone bushing and at that time all the internal parts were available......but I agree with you about the I.R. being Much easier to repair. Just today I fixed an IR 2135 TI with one of the two hammers broken and wedging the anvil.........took about 8 minutes.
 

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get a 1355xl from aircat and dont look back
The 325 is pretty slim and tiny but kinda pricey; and the IR is a nice unit but
i had a 2115timax and it was a little gutless; that aircat is a real monster

I was thinking about getting either the 2115qtimax or the 1355xl. How long have you had the 1355xl?
 

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Had the snap on, found it to be heavy, loud, unpleasant to use and a bit under-powered. Bought the 2115qti and it's like night and day, it's light, quiet and powerful, it does almost every job I need to do and now the 1/2" gun mostly stays in my box
 
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I would buy the ir I own a 1/2 mg725 and regret spending the extra money for it after using back to back with a coworkers 2135 my snap on has a little more power but alot heavier and more expensive. I bought the 3/8 2115 max a year ago from ebay and use it everyday and absolutly love it the 1/2 drive doesn't get much use anymore this things a little powerhouse for its size, I prefer the controls on it. The only problem I had was finding a boot and ended up getting one from my cornwell guy for the cornwell rebrand. I dont find it to be that loud I wouldn't waste my money on the muffler but that parts up to you.
 

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What's the country of origin for the IR? Just ordered an MG3255 and part of the decision was that I knew it said made in US.
 

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Had the snap on, found it to be heavy, loud, unpleasant to use and a bit under-powered. Bought the 2115qti and it's like night and day, it's light, quiet and powerful, it does almost every job I need to do and now the 1/2" gun mostly stays in my box

Wait we're talking about the 3/8? I thought we were talking about the 1/2. 3/8 I agree, I had the "big dog" snap on impact in green that I so desperately waited for,but it was embarrassingly underpowered. couldn't even break loose brake anchor or chassis bolts.i had it it sent out twice and didn't make a difference. I had my mac guy sell it and I bought macs new 3/8 AWP038 impact, now that's a beast of a gun:evil:
 

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I have the 2115 and the mg325. My 325 is around 3.5-4 years old. I just sent it to snap on for a rebuild because it has not had the power it had been lame for a few months and been using my old 2115.

Flat rate on the snap on is $163.95. You may be able to buy one used for this $ on eBay if you keep your eyes open. It must have gone up recently because I thought the 325 and 725 were $125 to rebuild a year or 2 ago?

Anyways the 2115 is I would say 6-7 years old and still works great. I think new out of the box the snap on has a bit more power in reverse, but I do think the IR has more tightening torque. No tests or anything but just seems that way.

So in my experience the IR definitely seems to last longer from the 2 pieces I got.

I wouldn't mind trying the aircat I guess but I had a 1/4 ratchet in the past and it wasn't very reliable would be very strong for about 9-10 months then need rebuilt. Finally gave up when it was out of warranty. So I am a little shy on aircat stuff
 

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^Great input. Sounds like another IR preference. I like how people say with their 2115, their 1/2 gets used a lot less.
 

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SNAP ON just released a MG3255 which is a 1/2 anvil on a 3/8 body sweet gun...

i have both IR and Snap on 3/8 and 1/2 guns

That's not entirely accurate...I picked up a used 3255 over a year ago. It's been available for a long time. I think they just don't do a good job of advertising it. At first I thought I might want to swap out the anvil, but after using the gun...the 1/2 IR only comes out if I'm dealing with a stubborn bolt (only work on my cars, if it were larger vehicles the story would be different). I love the 3255 with the 1/2" anvil!

Between the IR and the SO though...no way I'd pay the new price on the SO. Too much...so I'd opt for the IR. But, used the SO is available in the $200-225 range, which is reasonable and more competitive with a used IR (~$150ish). And since many don't want a 1/2" anvil on a 3/8th's body...they tend the 3255's sell on the lower end of the scale on ebay.

BTW, if you want, you can also buy a 325, purchase the 1/2" anvil from SO and swap them out if a 3255 is what you want but you're having trouble finding it used. But, the anvil is around $50 from SO.
 

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To be fair, IR has the 2125Timax, too. Me, I have a 2115, and a $20 3/8-1/2" impact adapter. :lol:

I haven't tried an MG325, but I was a little disappointed in the power of my 2115. I love the weight and size, but's it's a touch lacking in the nuts category. It's a toss-up getting caliper bracket bolts off with it, though in all fairness the ones it won't budge are often so tight/stuck they require a breaker bar and a swift kick or 3' pipe. The original snap ring is also about shot already, 6 months or so in.
 

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I was thinking about getting either the 2115qtimax or the 1355xl. How long have you had the 1355xl?

its been 3 months of daily use; its a monster
i really like it, i almost dont need 1/2 any more
zips harmonic balancer bolts out, lugs, rusty stuff, you name it

i really tried to like my 2115timax but it just didnt have the guts; its a back up now

heres a thread about the aircat, i was gunshy buying one too
http://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=170938&page=2
 

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Update

Ok so I got my mg325 back from snap on they charged me $124 with shipping both ways. So it was $40 less than they quoted me originally. They also gave a new boot with the repair. I don't remember if they have always done this or not.

Anyways I used it all day yesterday at the shop and I fell in love with it all over again. Now it kinda seems like my 2115 is soft which it could be cause its been used and abused. The anvil stop is a why I like the snap on guns for all day use less nuts bolts and sockets flying off randomly.

I am happy I got it rebuilt hope it lasts 2 years of my abuse The gun makes me a lot of $ so rebuilding it every 2-3 years not a big deal at this point.

I gotta tell you I am intrigued by that aircat for the $ and the claimed power seems like a good deal
 

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SNAP ON just released a MG3255 which is a 1/2 anvil on a 3/8 body sweet gun...
That's not a new release. I've been lusting after one for over a year now. Definitely not as common, as there's none of them to be found on ebay.

2115 cons
loud unless you get a qtimax
technically requires a small grease kit to properly lubricate the anvil housing
I have a 2125, which is the same gun, but with a 1/2" anvil.
I cannot speak to the volume of the non-q models, as mine is a qtimax, but it's volume is not objectionable.
The grease kit is a necessity. I used mine for about 7 months, and the hammers started sticking. Pulling the trigger, the anvil just freewheeled in direct drive, and if you put it to a load, you just heard, "Pfffffff" as air leaked through the stalled motor. I bought the lube kit that comes with a bottle of air tool oil, a tube of grease, and the mine greasegun/injector syringe tool. Grease the hammer case, and the hammers stuck a little less frequently. It took two full days of use before it got to the point that the hammers never stuck at all. I guess the grease needed to get distributed throughout. Moral of the story being, grease it before it shows problems.
The kit was $40 at NAPA. Potential buyers comparing prices should factor this in. Mine got daily use, 7 months was as long as I could run it before it needed the grease. If you're not using it every day (weekend warrior), you may never need the grease kit, but everyone else should probably plan on it.

I love the 3255 with the 1/2" anvil!

Between the IR and the SO though...no way I'd pay the new price on the SO. Too much...so I'd opt for the IR. But, used the SO is available in the $200-225 range, which is reasonable and more competitive with a used IR (~$150ish). And since many don't want a 1/2" anvil on a 3/8th's body...they tend the 3255's sell on the lower end of the scale on ebay.

BTW, if you want, you can also buy a 325, purchase the 1/2" anvil from SO and swap them out if a 3255 is what you want but you're having trouble finding it used. But, the anvil is around $50 from SO.
I've been wanting a 3255 with 1/2" anvil, but I too don't want to pay the new price. Lots of 325's on ebay, but few/no 3255's. I've been looking at getting one and converting it.
I have little use for a 3/8" gun. I have much use for a small, light 1/2" gun. My half inch impact socket set covers 3/8" through 1-1/2". The only thing I would gain with 3/8" impact sockets is sizing going down to 5/16" (who seriously needs impact power on fasteners that small?), and very slightly smaller sockets.
I'm torn between looking for a 325 with a pinned anvil, and just permanently leaving a 3/8"-1/2" adapter on it, or changing anvils. The adapter route does leave me the option of already having a 3/8" impact in the future if I find a use for it, and the pinned anvil *should* always stay on the gun when I pull the socket off the adapter.
I already have a IR 2125, so my needs are already met (hence the reduced need means I can't justify retail price of new), but there are situations where some disassemblies would be simplified having a gun with anvil stop to keep from slinging nuts.
 

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I am pro Snap-on but when it comes to Air tools Im all IR....Been burned before on snap-on's "lastest and greatest" impacts.

I can rebuild an IR cheaper,easier and not send my gun out.I have a 2115Ti 3/8 and absolutely my go to gun.Very reliable.Also have the 231c 1/2 impact.Its loud but its badass.
 

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That's one thing I love about my IR guns... the fact that there are always parts available. I can buy exactly what I need. My MG325 no longer puts out any power so it's a dead paperweight to me. I tried looking up parts for it and the stuff I need is no longer carried by Snap On. :wtf: Sure I could send it in for their flat rate repair, but they're asking more than what the gun is worth. Hell, I could buy another used 2115timax for the price. It was great when it worked, but never again will I buy another Snap On air impact gun.
 

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MG325 no longer puts out any power so it's a dead paperweight to me.

You want to unload that MG325? I've got an IR gun and I love it, but I need a good low power gun with an anvil stop. I'd rather buy one in known broken condition with a known repair cost at a low price, than gamble on a used one from ebay in unknown condition.
 
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