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awgee68

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Hey guys....longtime lurker here. I am currently in the process of building a 30x50 pole barn behind my house, outside of Lee's Summit (KC suburb), MO. Structure is up, skin on and two new 10x10 garage doors will go up on Tue. We've had really bad cold (and some snow) here the last month or so, and a couple weeks ago I parked my new Tundra in the barn to keep it out of the elements.

The Tundra is mainly my hunting truck, so I don't drive it most days. Went out to drive it somewhere this morning and had all sorts of warning lights come on. Dealer says mice have gotten into my main wiring harness and destroyed it. They advised not to park the new Tundra (or anything else with a wiring harness) in a pole barn. That's the whole point of why i'm building the barn - place to keep my Tundra, John Deere, ATV and other toys out of the elements and from cluttering up my attached garage.

I have traps down and i'm sure actually having the structure closed in with garage doors will help, but anyone else fighting this problem and have any solutions? I can't be the only one with these issues. Preference would not be a cat but i can't keep replacing wiring harnesses.
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maxfederle89

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Yeah definitely don't catch-and-release. There are some who look at it as "humane", but mice are vermin, plain and simple. Catch and kill, or let the trap do the work. If they don't find their way back to your barn, they will find something else to destroy.
This is exactly right. The only way you have a bleeding heart for mice is if you've never dealt with them.

To the OP, as someone said earlier, having a slab inside will be the first big step. Then investing in good solid garage doors and man doors. Then insulating and finishing off the inside will keep things tighter yet. And probably the most important, keep it clean and organized. As others have said as well, you'll probably have to have some kind of traps. And some good examples have already been mentioned. Good lick with them!

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C-A-T...forget the poison system...a cat never misses and will sit on your lap if you treat him right and he will appreciate being brought in from the cold or heat, and they are FREE. Check with your local animal shelter; they will be happy to see you, as will the cat.
I agree with this too. And don't be like some people and mistreat your barn cat. Cats turn into buttholes because of abuse in my experience. Treat them good and they'll clean out mice like crazy.

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Rat and mouse traps. The old fashioned ones. I paper clip the bait (tiny marshamallows) to the the latch if they tug it they're done. I do get my misses but i get most.
 

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Another vote for the old school Victor metal pedal traps. I use peanut butter for bait. Never misses.

The newer Victors with the plastic "cheese" pedals ain't worth a damn in my opinion.

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Cats and a 50/50 mix of peanut butter and bakeing soda.
Mice, rats, and other rodents, cannot burp or fart.
The peanut butter gets them to eat the soda that turns into bad gas with their stomach acid.
They bloat up and die
Cats will ignore the mix.

And check with the factory about your wiring.
Some mfgs for a while used wire where the plastic coating was soybean based.
Mice like the smell and would eat it.

I think most mfgs have learned this lesson by now.
But check out your year and model.

Some mothballs have been known to work also.

Okay....who has done a study that says rodents can't fart? :wtf:
 

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Cat Population will rise and fall, some times of the year I have 0 other times I have 3 or 4 but they keep the mice down.
Barn cats are getting harder to come by, put the word out and someone will offer you some.
Drive to the east side of the State I can get you a couple.
 
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Just don't tell the shelter it will be kept 'outside'. A lot of shelters want to think you're getting the cats for a family pet.

The OP has a barn so I'd want them to live in the barn to patrol for mice. They'd have a great life. Free cat food (and mice), fresh water, warm place to sleep, vet visits. Perhaps have a cat door on the smaller man door, so they can go in and out if they want.

Cats are nice companions too, though I can't have any (super allergic).
 

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The OP has a barn so I'd want them to live in the barn to patrol for mice. They'd have a great life. Free cat food (and mice), fresh water, warm place to sleep, vet visits. Perhaps have a cat door on the smaller man door, so they can go in and out if they want.

Cats are nice companions too, though I can't have any (super allergic).
I understand. I adopted a cat and when I let slip it was going to be an indoor / outdoor cat, they almost wouldn't let me adopt it. I had to lie and tell them I would only keep it indoors.

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I just had mice destroy part of my wiring harness in my 2012 Tundra. They ate through the harness to a fuel injector. My CEL came on, had a misfire and the truck was saying it was in 4LO. Got the harness fixed and it was good to go.
 

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I understand. I adopted a cat and when I let slip it was going to be an indoor / outdoor cat, they almost wouldn't let me adopt it. I had to lie and tell them I would only keep it indoors.

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Yep, you gotta be careful what you say to them. A lot of those volunteers are basically crazy old cat ladies. They should be there to get the cats loving homes.
 

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I've had better luck using a raisin on a spring trap. I have stuffed that crunchie peanut butter under the trigger of spring traps and have had mice eat it all and leave, but with the asi in I have better luck. It's more sticky, my buddy swears by pieces of Snickers.....probably just the caramel. Had a guy a pt work....automobile mfg. plant....he hooked up a transformer to one side of a metal plate, and the other side to a wire connector with peanut butter. BOOM!
 

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01, when you start keeping your vehicles and other equipment in the pole barn, raise the hoods on everything. I have not had a problem with rats or mice chewing harnesses since I started doing this. It helps to keep a light on also.
 

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Hey guys....longtime lurker here. I am currently in the process of building a 30x50 pole barn behind my house, outside of Lee's Summit (KC suburb), MO. Structure is up, skin on and two new 10x10 garage doors will go up on Tue. We've had really bad cold (and some snow) here the last month or so, and a couple weeks ago I parked my new Tundra in the barn to keep it out of the elements.

The Tundra is mainly my hunting truck, so I don't drive it most days. Went out to drive it somewhere this morning and had all sorts of warning lights come on. Dealer says mice have gotten into my main wiring harness and destroyed it. They advised not to park the new Tundra (or anything else with a wiring harness) in a pole barn. That's the whole point of why i'm building the barn - place to keep my Tundra, John Deere, ATV and other toys out of the elements and from cluttering up my attached garage.

I have traps down and i'm sure actually having the structure closed in with garage doors will help, but anyone else fighting this problem and have any solutions? I can't be the only one with these issues. Preference would not be a cat but i can't keep replacing wiring harnesses.
I have a 73 dart I park over the winter in a "shelter logic" structure...a tent..I place mean bags of mothballs at any point ( 4 back stands ) Where mice can climb up.
I also put packs of mouse/rat poison in housings that only mice can fit in( prevents dogs or cats eating it).
But the best method ( try YouTube as it's too hard to type a description) is the bucket mousetrap.

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Putting some fox urine around the outside will help repel them from wanting to enter the barn. They even make some Shake-Away replant that is granulates with fox urine. But that might not help with ones already in the barn. How sealed up is the bottom of the barn to the floor? Id try and seal and cracks or seams they can squeeze through. Again these will not completely eliminate the issue but should help reduce it.

I've also had good luck with scented dryer sheets inside the vehicles (also put some in the storage unit with my car in it). Supposedly, they don't like the smell of them?
 
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I noticed a drastic reduction in my mouse problem when I started using plenty of vegetation killer (like Roundup) to clear all vegetation from around the buildings. Remove their food source and shelter and the mice go away?
 

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I think I live down the road from you and pass your place on my way home. Do you live on a corner lot with a pool/volley ball court?

Best thing we have done with out old cars is put the sticky traps on the tires and lower control arms. as well as having some of the bait packs on the ground under the cars.

If its the house I think your going to have a problem with the fields/parks behind you. Did you do concrete floors? Make sure the building is 100% sealed around the edges.
 

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I had a rat that I couldn't catch with spring traps because he would lick the peanut butter off without setting them off. He ate some wiring on our car so I got meaner and put out sticky traps and wired them to weights so he couldn't drag them off. It worked, he got stuck to the trap and the last thing he saw was a lead pellet heading his way at 1000fps.

Learned a trick from a professional critter trapper. Cut off Slim Jim beef sticks and force them over the metal tang on a rat trap. Rats can't resist the Slim Jim and will get smacked because the food doesn't come off easily.
 

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Learned a trick from a professional critter trapper. Cut off Slim Jim beef sticks and force them over the metal tang on a rat trap. Rats can't resist the Slim Jim and will get smacked because the food doesn't come off easily.


****, that trap would probably catch me. Gives new meaning to "snap into a SlimJim"
 

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I had a rat that I couldn't catch with spring traps because he would lick the peanut butter off without setting them off. He ate some wiring on our car so I got meaner and put out sticky traps and wired them to weights so he couldn't drag them off. It worked, he got stuck to the trap and the last thing he saw was a lead pellet heading his way at 1000fps.

Learned a trick from a professional critter trapper. Cut off Slim Jim beef sticks and force them over the metal tang on a rat trap. Rats can't resist the Slim Jim and will get smacked because the food doesn't come off easily.

I use a paper clip bent up so they can't get the food off
 

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If you can build a structure without any holes as big as your little finger you MIGHT have a critter proof structure. A moat around the structure might help for mice but likely wouldn't deter enough rats. The only time you want to do the no poison /catch n release gig is if you are looking for food for a pet snake or something of that ilk otherwise you do nobody any favours by letting them live. If you do the shop cat routine make sure you are generous with your food to the cat so that it doesn't starve but don't feed it enough that it isn't game to add some critters to it's diet, and don't leave it's food out so that the vermin get the idea or scent of free food. Poison can lead to a rodent stuck in the walls and decomposing vermin is not my idea of nice clean air to breathe.
 

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I have a couple of cats that live in the shop. They get the job done. Also use various traps and poisons to go along with the cats. Just-one-Bite is my poison of choice.

Please don't do this! Do either one or the other. It's obvious a cat may eat a mouse that's already poisoned and then die. That would be very sad.
 

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First and foremost, you have to eliminate their food source.
They must be feeding on something in the area in
order to want to stay around.

I used to keep enough food out for my dogs to last
several days, the mice were infesting my garage and
I didn't notice it at first, by the time I did It was too
late. I had to put out poison at that point.
Also it didn't take me long to realize the dogs could
get by with being fed once a day and they weren't
overweight or too thin.
Between the mice, starlings, and crows they ate
about half of the food I put out.
It didn't take me long to figure out what I needed
to do.
After I started putting out enough food for the dogs
to eat what they would eat while I was standing there,
and no more, and put out the poison, and started
putting the dog food in a metal trash can that
pretty much eliminated my mouse problem.

Do not leave additional food out for your animals...
Also for some reason the mice will get into grass seed.
Eliminate all food sources.
Secure any food so mice can't get to it.
 

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Believe it or not but place a bar of irish spring soap in different spots around the barn. The smell is strong to mice and they don't like it. Got this idea from a buddy of mine before I stored my RV and have yet to see evidence of one in it. He has stored his trailer outside this way for years and said he had them in every year until he did this and not one since.

The irish spring idea is similar to the mint. Both have a strong odor to rodents and they steer clear of it

I tried Irish spring soap in the trunk of a car I had been storing for the winter.
The bad news was the mice that got in the car didn't mind the smell of the soap at all.
The good news was that they chewed on the bar of soap and it killed them, but not before they started building a nest under the back seat.
 

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I would like to try the cat approach. Having never had a cat, how do I get it to stay in the barn, and most importantly, how warm does it need to be?

Actually, I REALLY like the scheme of the guy who wired a plate and bare wire to a transformer. Very original. I'll bet a neon sign transformer would work.



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Re: Transformer: In some areas beekeepers are troubled by bears. One beekeeper got a transformer from an old movie marquee, laid down heavy wire, and hooked the transformer to it. He was near when a bear paid a visit and he said he could hear the bear screaming for a long way into the woods. I cnimagine the effect on mice.

KEH
 

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A while ago I used the wooden Rat trap rather than the smaller wooden mouse trap. I was in the garage when the trap went off and a few seconds later heard a thump on the trunk of my car. The larger rat trap decapitated the mouse and his head landed on the trunk.

Much earlier in my first house I was renovating I put mouse traps in the old suspended ceiling tiles in the basement. The trap must have caught either the mouse's leg or tail as we could hear him dragging it across the ceiling tiles.

My worse mouse story was we had mice come up the gas line in our old kitchen stove of that same house we were renovating. We usually placed a trap in the area above the oven and under the burners. One night we forgot to check the trap and turned on the oven. When we smelled something funny, I lifted up the burner grate and all that was left was mickey mouse ears.
 
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