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1982fxr

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I bought a lathe recently and will need some decent mics. I'm just a hobbyist. A lot of used quality brands on eBay for good prices.

Are used old micrometers typically still accurate? Or are they all over the place as far as what you might get?

I also see, as far as new, mitituyo has a 0-1" digital for about $125, which seems pretty good. I'd like to go up to 3". I wouldn't want to drop _125 each on three but on the most used size that could be ok, and then get the other two used maybe?

Thoughts? Just a hobbyist with a 10x30 atlas
 
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Mitutoyo, Starret, Brown and Sharpe are the top 3. Make sure it doesnt look all beat up or rusty, and the measuring faces arent chipped. Other than that I dont know what else you can tell through pictures. Pretty much everything is adjustable on the Mitutoyos. I bought a 0-6 set used for $600, Theyre old but still work like new and repeat closer than .0001". Personally I would look for a set with 1" and 2" standards. Also I prefer a friction stop over a ratchet stop. Good luck though, Ive tried to buy used machinist tools off ebay and it seems like someone always jumps in a the last minute or the price goes through the roof in the last hour.
 

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I am no expert but my understanding on MICs is that they should not just go bad they have to either be bent or really abused to not be fairly accurate. They are typically adjustable so I think the key is to get a decent set of gauge blocks so that you can test them and adjust if needed. The gauge blocks start at maybe around a hundred bucks for an import set that can be serviceable up in to the low 5 figures for a really good set. I think you can get them certified as well.
 

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I likely have a mic or two, calipers and a few other things I could make you a deal on.
 

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Buy the best looking ones and listings with several good pictures, if they look like they have been looked after and have no visible rust or damage they are usually good. In a case or box as well.
A big job lot of a bunch of sizes is usually the cheapest way to get a range of sizes.

I got lucky on Amazon and bought a new 0" to 6" set of Mitutoyo brand new in the box with all the standards for £165, it was a one only deal posted in the deals section on here.

I don't own any digital micrometers, don't see the need really.

Lesser known but still high quality brands can be got cheaper than Mitutoyo or Starrett usually.
 

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The way micrometers work, unless they have been really abused, they are usually still accurate!

They are good value price wise, either new or used.

If price is an issue, you will generally do better by buying good ones used, rather than cheap ones.

I can recommend Starrett (made in U.S.A. - old ones are fine), Moore and Wright (made in England - old ones are better) at the top end. Brown and Sharpe (US) or Mitutoyo (Japan) are both good too.

Digital ones have a very limited life (unless they are mechanical digital) and I would personally avoid them used. If you really want digital, I’ve found the Swiss Tesa to be the best.

If you buy on eBay, go with the advice here and look carefully at the pics. If it looks good it probably will be. Avoid buying tatty ones - you don’t have to. If you have anywhere selling used tools that can be a good source. You can check the faces are good and the spindle turns freely. Don’t worry too much about zero, as this can be adjusted. Yes, buy one in a case or box if you can, they are always in better shape than those chucked in drawers!
 

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I have purchased all my mics second hand and many on eBay. Many different brands and most have no issues. The Etalon are a favorite of mine, second are the satin chrome Starrets. The Swiss Brown and Sharpe mics are nice as well.

I would caution about buying the Brown and Sharpe slant line mics. I found them very awkward to read. Some people like them I suppose.

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Might I suggest that you check the local Craigs list. That way you can have the instrument in your hand before paying. I also observed a mic on your CL from an old guy downsizing and getting ready to move. He may have more that is not listed.

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Mics are pretty simple and bulletproof. You don't (and can't) calibrate them. Mechanical ones are just a screw and a vernier scale - they get their accuracy from how accurately they were made at the factory, not from being calibrated after they are made.

For basic 1"/25mm mics -
The only thing that may get out of adjustment is the zero point. If you set the vernier to read zero when the mics are completely closed, and the anvil and spindle aren't visibly trashed, you'll get factory accuracy out of even a very old tool. You don't need any precision standard or reference to zero them.

For mics larger than 1" or 25mm -
They're the same as basic 1" mics except you use a standard to zero them.
Mics larger than 25mm are always sold new with a suitable standard and a wrench for zeroing them. (The wrenches are almost universal and interchangeable between common brands - one wrench will fit most mics of most sizes of most brands.)

I wouldn't normally buy used mics larger than 1" that didn't come with a standard. For 1-2" mics you need a 1" standard to zero them, for 2-3" mics you need a 2" standard, etc. It's true that you can use other references to zero mics if you don't have a suitable standard, but it's convenient to have the standard close at hand in your tool box for a quick check.

I prefer old-school mechanical mics - If a digital tool goes bad, it's probably not practical to repair it. Unless they're seriously abused, non-electronic ones basically last several lifetimes without any loss of accuracy or need for repair. I like the basic Mitutoyo 102 series ones, but also have some from other manufacturers. The Mits are nicely finished and easy to read, even with my less than perfect eyesight. I keep thinking that I might buy some digital ones, but I don't do production work or make huge numbers of measurements, so I've never bothered to spend the cash for the slight extra convenience of a digitial display. If I were a professional machinist, I'd probably have a full set of digitial ones. I've bought most of mine either 'NOS' or used. Nothing too old - not because of accuracy concerns, but because the markings on really old ones generally aren't as crisp, contrasty, and easy to read as newer ones.

Even if you buy digital, it's probably still worthwhile to have a few mechanical ones around - you know they'll stay accurate more or less forever, and you'll never need to change a battery or worry about a failing display.
 

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I have bought Starret micrometers off of ebay , up to 5" and they have been fine for what I need. one was quite rusty on the barrel so I cleaned it in vinegar & it came out fine. don't remember what I paid for them individually, but I don't think it was over $100. definitely not more than $150 for 5 of them
 

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I wouldn't buy any used micrometers unless they measured up fine against a standard. This is where I'd be more comfortable with buying it off craigslist or Facebook marketplace so I can test it before I pay up.
 

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I'd look at new imports. 20+ yrs ago I bought a 0-6" by .0001 resolution set off Enco and they're dead on using ISO certified gage blocks at the place I was working at the time. I saw the same set in many machine shops.
 
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I didn't read through the whole thread. I'm partial to Mitutoyo, also I like ones that read to .0001, have ratchet thimbles, and Carbide faces are a must. You should be able to get a set of 3 for under 300.00 in like new shape on ebay. Make sure the standards are included for calibration.
 

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I’m a hobby machinist myself.

I do have Mitutoyo and Starrett in my machinist box for things that have to be dead nuts on. Otherwise they stay nice and safe in my box.

For most hobby machining that does not have to be dead nuts on I just use a set of $20 Dial calipers from amazon and an inexpensive micrometer. They are accurate enough for hobby stuff, you can check them with a gauge block, and you don’t cry that bad when they get damaged. You just toss it in the trash and grab your backup.

I bought this set of 0-6” about a year ago and like it. Anytime Tools 0-6" Premium Outside Micrometer Machinist Tool Set Round Frame 0.0001" Precision Vernier Scale with Carbide Tips https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000JMW4AS/?tag=atomicindus08-20

I also bought the stand. Grizzly Industrial G5727 - Micrometer Stand https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0000DD4I0/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Here is one of my projects from a few years ago.
 

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A very underrated mic is TUMICO/Scherr Tumico/STI (Tubular Micrometer Co). Good instruments and usually go cheap because no one knows the name. Company is out of business now I understand so offerings would be used or NOS. The name derives from the hollow C frame on most models and those are very light but still very solid reliable measuring tools.
 

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used are fine if you can find someone realistic as to price. Some the owners are so attached to them look at selling them as a business. When they get ready to retire they talk with a business agent who tells them the shop is worth $75,000. They have invested $450,000 in older style lathes etc.. Then they try listing it themselves and no one comes but people who want to buy it 5 cents on the dollar. Then they call an auction house who tells them maybe they can get $60,000 for everything. They they decide to part it out on Craigslist, Ebay, Vintage tools, Aircraft magazine since they are near an airport etc.. You inquire on a gauge set that is worth $250 used. They want $1500. Wait until they die and buy it from their widow or heirs (if she divorced him) at an estate sale. It will be $120.
 
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Just my opinion based on how I'm building up my machinist tools. A number of years ago I bought a 0-4 set of micrometers from matco. I assume they are the same as Central's Storm line or Fowler. Nothing special, but for what I used them for in the mechanic world, they have worked fine in my hobby machining so far. Since I have their catalog handy, a 0-4 set from Shars is $106.50. For a 10" lathe, I don't think you will need much bigger than a 4". I have put off buying better mics while I focus on other tools I don't have. When I do buy better mics, I'm kind of eyeing up the mechanical digital ones from either Starret or Mitutoyo in maybe up to 3". Then I have good mics and "beater" mics. The other option I debate, there is almost always mic kits on MP that I'd generally have a choice to pick from. Starrett or Mitutoyo 0-12 for $500 pop up fairly often. Not really looking to drop that kind of money right now or where I'll ever need anything about 6" I don't know. On the bigger picture, there is always a ton of machinist tools for sale locally so if you know what you are looking for, the pickings could be real good.
 

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Not a machinist, but as others have said, vernier micrometers are a screw and a scale. As long as the shaft and frame aren't bent, and the zero adjuster isn't frozen, there isn't much to go bad. If the anvil pad is bad, smooth it out, reset the zero and go. Same with the screw tip. I suppose if you disassembled and sandblasted it you could foul up the screw, most people aren't that devious.

I probably have 4-5 I've gotten used in boxes, and 1 was fouled up due to cutting the shaft off (who does that?) converting a 1-2" into some weird size. All the others, I clean up the rust, put some instrument lube on them, reset the zero, away we go. Check them against the standard. I don't try to sell them.
 

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I have an old Starrett 1" that was Peter's , he passed it on to me. I have tried using it in his memory. The thimble is too small and hard to read. I use one of Mits instead. I found an Etalon at the flea market, trying to look casual about a rare Swiss gem, I didn't look too closely. It was a junky .001 with out even a ratchet. Luckily I didn't pay much. So I'm saying just because it says Starrett or Etalon, it may not be worth it over a Chinese one. While I like using friction ones better than ratchet, the ratchet ones are simpler, cheaper and much easier to adjust. As others have said mikes are simple, there is long list of quality brands.
 

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Lookup Anytime Tools. They have good reviews and can hang with the big names. They make some pretty nice stuff for hobbyist use, very affordable. All available on Amazon prime too, any issues and Amazon will sort it out. I have an outside mic set, dial caliper and snap gauge set. Been extremely pleased with them and have rebuilt several small engines in last couple years with no issues on fitment of new parts etc.
 

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A very underrated mic is TUMICO/Scherr Tumico/STI (Tubular Micrometer Co). Good instruments and usually go cheap because no one knows the name. Company is out of business now I understand so offerings would be used or NOS. The name derives from the hollow C frame on most models and those are very light but still very solid reliable measuring tools.

They're still in business, and still making things right here in Minnesota. ;) The name has changed, to Scherr-Tumico. http://www.stindustries.com/products.html

I picked up a 0-1" Tumico at a garage sale last year for a few bucks, it's a good instrument.
 

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