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I used to live in NYC but moved west for a better life. I make bikes mostly for myself as a hobby but sometimes I get paid to do it for others. I have for years considered building a bike company. Perhaps when the stars align I'll do it but for now I'm honing my skills and shooting for clients.

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I know you moved, I just thought you built custom motorcycles with the guys in NYC. I have my logo and my "brand", but Scurvy Tick is just for my personal builds just to make it more fun at shows. I'll build my bikes and if somebody wants to buy one, great, I'll sell it if the offer is right. But I have no plans to take commissions or make it a job. I did that with audio amps and headphones. It became work and the fun was gone. Right now I love the freedom to work on them when I can, at my own slow pace so I can enjoy the process.
 
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My next challenge will be to choose which of those two pictures to use as a wallpaper.

Thanks for the great pics and report!! :thumbup:
 
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Gregor, I am still having trouble believing that this is the same van as that smelly, mud laden heap I picked up for you. That thing seemed seemed unsafe at any speed (apologies to Ralph Nader). As I pulled it into parking lot of the repair shop i was so relieved that it didn't end up in the mechanic's customer waiting room; the brake pedal was only a few dirt layers away from the floor!

Now it's a show piece!

If you have some Eclipse pics I'd love to see them! We experienced the total in Nashville with about 10,000 new friends at the AAA baseball stadium. Much different than your experience but still a thrill.
 

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Gregor,
This set of photos is just spectacular, but your message of working to live really echoes with me. I'm at that point you were at many years ago, asking ourselves why we need to wait for retirement to enjoy life. There are lots of places in this country that offer a bounty of beauty and opportunity for quick getaways. Of course the need to work and the job in hand presents a hurdle we've been unwilling to tackle...yet. Thanks for sharing and yet more inspiration!
 
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My next challenge will be to choose which of those two pictures to use as a wallpaper.

Thanks for the great pics and report!! :thumbup:

Thanks! I'm glad that this thread is still entertaining despite having gone off the rails.

Gregor,
This set of photos is just spectacular, but your message of working to live really echoes with me. I'm at that point you were at many years ago, asking ourselves why we need to wait for retirement to enjoy life. There are lots of places in this country that offer a bounty of beauty and opportunity for quick getaways. Of course the need to work and the job in hand presents a hurdle we've been unwilling to tackle...yet. Thanks for sharing and yet more inspiration!

I remember how my grandparents took trips to Mexico and Poland when they were retired in their mid 60's and thinking, why did they wait all their life to do something they wanted?

Then I got to NYC and never noticed how the speed of the treadmill kept going faster and faster. I took lots of time off and I loved my work but the fact was that while I was very successful a majority of my income went to landlords. The treadmill goes as fast as you can run - there's no top speed and it never slows down.

So we jumped, blind and with almost no safety net, to a life I knew had to be better. One that would connect us and more importantly, our kids, to a more natural world and a better place. The city, any city, is a playground for single people in their 20's and 30's. I used to equate it to an adult amusement park - thrilling, entertaining and expensive and when you leave you're exhausted and broke.

Here's the other takeaway that I feel is more important. Kids are at home in nature. My kids shake hands with anemones and feed chipmunks at the edge of Crater Lake (despite being told it's against the rules - you go kids!) They ride their bikes by themselves through park campgrounds and are utterly happy and content in nature. When my daughter wasn't quite two we put grass in the back yard of our loft in Brooklyn and she was scared of it. She only knew pavement. That was the breaking point for me.

Anyone can learn the ways of a city - that's the whole point of a city. They have signs at every corner for pete's sake! It's not for children. Nature on the other hand is for children. I hate spiders but my daughter isn't afraid of anything anymore. She hugs chickens, holds pigs, kisses goats and catches little crabs in tidal pools and gives them names. Kids that grow up in the city are never at home in nature - they can try to go back but nature isn't as welcoming to you when you're in your 30's. There are no signs, no instructions.

You get one shot at childhood and the place to spend it is nature. That's my opinion.

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Gregor, I am still having trouble believing that this is the same van as that smelly, mud laden heap I picked up for you. That thing seemed seemed unsafe at any speed (apologies to Ralph Nader). As I pulled it into parking lot of the repair shop i was so relieved that it didn't end up in the mechanic's customer waiting room; the brake pedal was only a few dirt layers away from the floor!

Now it's a show piece!

For those that didn't catch it many pages ago Zippercat was the friend I didn't know that went and purchased my van and made sure it was on the up and up. He took it to a garage and left it for me and sadly, our schedules didn't align so we didn't get to meet.

You are not the only one who wondered about my sanity. MG, the builder, called me after getting the van in his shop to ask if I really wanted to go forward with it. One last chance to back out. It is cosmetically imperfect and hardly a show piece. The interior is workaday at best. But!

I didn't care when we scraped our way up to the top of Hermit Pass in Colorado plowing through scrub oak. I didn't care when my daughter spilled an entire milkshake into the seat. I plan on using the hell out of this van and kids are maybe more brutal than narrow trails. Right now the van works perfectly for us and is exactly, exactly, what I was hoping for.

If you have some Eclipse pics I'd love to see them! We experienced the total in Nashville with about 10,000 new friends at the AAA baseball stadium. Much different than your experience but still a thrill.

Thanks for the segue and funny you should mention it...

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Gregor, I can testify to the memories you are imprinting on your children. I was ten in the summer of 1955 but I remember it like it was yesterday. There was no Interstate highway system and National Park campgrounds were rarely filled to capacity. We started the trip east of New York City and made it to the west coast, hitting every National Park and Monument with a turn toward home when we got to Banff and Jasper National Parks in Alberta.

We took long trips because Mom & Dad were teachers with the summer off. We had similar problems with overheating but our rig was nothing like yours (a lot shorter with no fresh or gray water and no refrigerator).
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Sitting with Mom on the Grand Canyon rim wearing a cowboy hat was better than any movie theater experience I've ever had.
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Back then I don't think they had signs discouraging the feeding of chipmunks (or prairie dogs) -- they happily took food from my hand. They did have signs warning that chipmunks and other animals bite.

Dad saved money by using 35mm slide film but the Ektachrome hasn't held up as well as the Kodachrome. He shot more film at Crater Lake than any other place we visited that summer. The day we took the boat tour the lake was calmer than the Park Ranger had ever seen in his 9 years (he forgot his camera that day so Dad sent him copies). It was a shock to see how clear the water was. The Ranger dropped a rock overboard to show that the bottom, which looked like it was 10-feet down, was actually 120 feet below us.
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We arrived home from our Crater Lake/Coast trip on last Friday exhausted and happy. When Ben wasn't able to go down south for the coming eclipse we sort of abandoned plans and with the fear of the predicted traffic armageddon we thought we'd just go down to the local park and watch it at 99%.

Then I started doing more research into it. Turns out that 99% means an eclipse that would only last 5-10 seconds at it's peak. Whereas in the "totality" you would get over 2 minutes. Surely an extra minute and 50 seconds of eclipse is worth another trip right?

I immediately cleaned the trailer and plugged it in to charge the batteries and filled the tank with fresh water. Bought another block of dry ice for the refrigerator and restocked the cabinets. Get packed kids we're heading out again!

But where?

The coast was predicted to be foggy in the morning so we crossed that out. The cities along the path were already crowded so we crossed that out. The mountains were the answer. Not too far, hundreds of forest roads, lots of lakes - seems like the way to go. I start looking at satellite images.

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Just east of Detroit Lake there was another lake, higher up, that had potential. Zoom in...

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Wow, look at that! It's got a turn around for the trailer and there's hardly any cars there! Yes, I know the maps aren't live but it seemed like a good omen.

So off we go.

When we get to the Forest Service Road there's a motor home offering first aid and emergency calls (no reception here) so were were impressed by the preparedness. We'd hardly seen any traffic coming up along the river so we were pretty confident that we'd picked the spot perfectly. Sweet!

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Off we go on the dirt forest service road. It quickly narrows to a single lane. A mile in and it narrows to less than a single lane. There's no shoulder. There's no pull outs. Downed trees are cut and we slip by with only inches to spare.

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I got that feeling that you never want to get. You've done something horribly misguided, unanticipated and utterly mistaken and you can't take it back. They say that everyone who's ever tried to take their life by jumping regrets the decision the instant their feet leave the bridge. I was over a mile into a very rocky, very steep, very, very narrow road with no wide places to turn the van around much less the 28' trailer.

Jwoo was fuming. "What were you thinking! This is insanity!" she helpfully pointed out. I knew that pretty much the instant I knew I couldn't back down the trail. I had no choice but to keep going to the lake. I had visions of my father plowing the pickup up the side of a canyon to get out of the way of an approaching flash flood. We were stuck in a foot and a half of hail, the 15' ditch had over flowed and covered the road and was threatening to wash away the truck as lightning crashed all around us. What was he thinking?

We survived that calamity by seconds, being rescued by our friends and neighbors on horseback coming to our frantic calls on the CB.

Here though no ones life was at stake but the lack of planning was obvious. I'd ridden forest service roads to the north and the south of this one - none were that bad. Granted I was on a motorcycle but still - this one was a lot worse.

After five miles of bouncing through tension so thick it made the smoke from the forest fires seem like nothing we came to a wide pull out with a tent set up. I pull off as a well set up FJ comes down the trail. "Nice rig!" he says, "How the hell did you get that trailer up here?" I ask if we can make it to the lake. "You can make it no problem but the trailer doesn't stand a chance - it gets way worse just around the corner"

At this point a woman comes up to see what the commotion is at her tent. I explain how I might be in a bit of a tough spot and can I leave the trailer for a bit while we see how the trail is up to the lake. She agrees but clearly thinks I'm an axe murderer.

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We back the trailer in and unhook and sure enough, just around the next few turns the trail gets much rockier. There's no way we could drag the trailer up this without severe damage to the underside and the tanks. I try to cut the tension by saying at least we'll get to share the eclipse with someone but Jwoo is having none of it. She's furious with me.

Back at the pull out we meet Sabrina's other half, Javier, a super sweet Venezuelan man who thinks for a bit when I ask him if they'd mind sharing their spot with us? He asks about the trailer and if it has a generator. Oh, no. We'll be quiet, no generator, no motors. We promise to be good neighbors. He says, well, it's all public land and sharing is what it's all about.

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We repark the trailer to give them more space and the kids, the dog and the cat all pile out. Yeah, did I mention we brought the cat?

This was another thing Jwoo wasn't happy about. The kids (and me) have wanted to bring Biscuit for ages. He's not the bravest cat but he has wanted to go with us forever. Whenever I leave in the morning with Gravy (the dog) to drop the kids at school he waits, for hours, by the front door. One overnight was all we'd get, it was Biscuits do or die camping trial.

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He killed it. Along with a number of flies in the camper.

We all got introduced and as it was getting late settled in for dinner and a night of sleep. All night long there was a steady trickle of vehicles, a few every hour, still coming up the road, looking for a place to watch.

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In the morning Sabrina surprised us with a bag of gold temporary tattoos for the kids and face paint. We made them breakfast and coffee and Jwoo had time to chill out and suddenly everything was fine. Better than fine in fact. We had found new friends!

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As the kids got tattoos of golden suns Jwoo cut out pretend eclipse glasses for 12 stuffed animals that joined us for this once in a lifetime event. We put on our glasses and sat in the road and waited, watching the moon take bigger and bigger bites from the sun.

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Until suddenly the ground started to shimmer as if from massive heat waves. It got much colder and stars appeared and suddenly there was no more sun when viewed through our glasses - blackness. We take off our glasses there it was - a flaming ring of light.

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Javier and Sabrina got up and danced as we all ooh'd and aah'd at this utterly breathtaking event. It was better than I could have imagined which is really something for an event that has been hyped for a year in advance.

After the totality we took a hike from our spot down a path to an amazing waterfall. I've mentioned that Oregon is amazing right? This was one drop of many but it was too steep to venture farther with the kids. When they're older we'll come back here.

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Sabrina and Javier agreed to leave just before us to warn any upcoming vehicles to find a pull off but it wasn't needed, all traffic was headed out and we made it back down with no trouble.

Once again we're in no rush to get home and when we see a lake with kayak rentals it seems the perfect way to spend some time to let the traffic die down a bit. More adventure, more joy for the kids.

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I am most certainly my fathers son. I dive without looking and trust that I'll land on my feet. I am more careful but no less bold.

Next trip we bring the hamster!

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Gregor, I can testify to the memories you are imprinting on your children. I was ten in the summer of 1955 but I remember it like it was yesterday...

Wow, Bob, thanks for sharing!! Those shots are incredible.

I feel like I'm doing a pretty good job on the dad front. I think the van will only get us to better and better adventures.

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Your new friends had a LandCruiser & brought that mini Camry thing too? Ugh.

Laughed out loud at the cat action pics.
 

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Awesome shots of the eclipse! We're in Charleston and were able to witness totality as well but none of my pictures came out anything like yours! What an amazing experience that was. I have to say it is at the top of my list of incredible natural wonders that I've experienced. I don't have kids though. I could see that being higher. [emoji846]


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Your new friends had a LandCruiser & brought that mini Camry thing too? Ugh.

Laughed out loud at the cat action pics.

Oh, no. Different people. Sabrina and Javier were visiting from Maui just for the eclipse. It was a rental car - "don't be gentle, it's a rental".

The cat surprised everyone. He was happy to be included. I'm serious about the hamster. Just wait.

Gregor
 

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You are definitely rocking the dad gig! Heck, few years younger I'd put in a request for adoption. :)

That van rocks and is a killer combo with the caravan. Great photography really shows it off. Wish I could get my wife to agree on a van instead of the current Pajero! Don't get me wrong. I like taking the Pajero on excursions but just the extra space not to have to take a trailer for a light camping trip with two kids and all the toys, would just make things a little more nimble if you know what I mean.

I actually grew up camping with an old 70's VW Kombi and you won't believe the places my dad took it through! He rented a little caravan once but it was cramped and ill-equipped compared to the vanner tent setup we had. Still those were some great days growing up.

Our daughters look about the same age and funny how despite the distance and cultures apart, the line-up of soft toys are pretty much exactly the same! :)
 

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Gregor,
Thanks for posting. Glad to see the trip with kids, cat and camper. The photos came out great.

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Gregor,
It's taken me a week + plus to make it all the way through your mulit-year thread. Thank you for sharing your life and your family's life with us. I've learned things that I will carry forward with my garage improvements. And your latest experiences with trailering and camping bring back fond memories and tell me that you and Judiaann are doing right by your kids.
Keep up the great endeavors you are pursuing and really appreciate your sharing with us.
 
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Gregor,
It's taken me a week + plus to make it all the way through your mulit-year thread. Thank you for sharing your life and your family's life with us. I've learned things that I will carry forward with my garage improvements. And your latest experiences with trailering and camping bring back fond memories and tell me that you and Judiaann are doing right by your kids.
Keep up the great endeavors you are pursuing and really appreciate your sharing with us.

Thanks. I'm glad that my stories can resonate with people and that I've inspired a few folks to try something that haven't thought they could. Learning and teaching are really important to me.

Speaking of stories - I got a pretty fun opportunity a while back and it's part of my radio silence. I was asked to help test some bikes on a ride to Alaska with Gear Patrol. I love the guys I got to ride with and the fact that I don't get to ride as much as I used to, paired with the fact that Alaska was the last of the states I've had the chance to visit... well, it was an easy choice.

Here's the link to a brief ride report: Soft Scrambled Alaska

And a few of the photos from that trip.

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It was a pretty amazing trip and not what I was expecting. Alaska was great - it's totally a state of misfits and characters. Sarah Palin makes a lot more sense now.

After that trip I flew home for a few hours to pack gear and head to NYC for three weeks in the studio. I just got back and had a day to repack and I'm off to the coast for a week to shoot a resort and then straight back to NYC again. Fall is usually busy but this one has been especially so. I'm loving the work but I'm so exhausted and looking forward to a break.

My sister will be moving out in November and the entire family is coming for Christmas so I've set a lot of very ambitious goals with the house. Expect actual updates in a few more weeks.

Thanks again for following along.

Gregor
 

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Gregor, I had a taste of Alaska in 1957. The Alcan Highway was unpaved in Canada but paved in Alaska. We passed up driving the Denali Highway a few days after the road first opened that summer. Instead Dad put our Olds on a flatbed rail car in Fairbanks and we took the Alaska Railroad train into the park.
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Like your mountain, Mt. McKinley (sorry, Denali) hadn't been seen for three weeks but it appeared the morning after we arrived.
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On the way to the camp/lodge at the base of the mountain there were blueberry bushes for miles on both sides of the road. We picked two gallons before someone realized we were wandering around in a Bear Buffet (and we were the slow-running, high-protein main course). Less than two months after we returned to Long Island the Peace River bridge collapsed. I don't think our Olds and travel trailer contributed to the collapse.
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So I may of started using your name as an expletive. I apologize and hope you understand it comes from a place of respect and reverence.

When I find myself lusting after festool's I don't need or when I take a simple workbench build from throwing a steel plate on top to wanting to buy festool's to build drawers with baltic birch and soft closing slides and and a quick change vice mount and adding a flip up MFT bench on the back of it that will have MFT capabilities and on and on.... And of course I have all the tools needed for building the drawers. But I cant get started because of my lack of Festool's.

In these moments of madness I will have a glimmer of rational and I find myself saying...

EFFIN GREGOR!!!!!
 

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Only Gregor could manage to make a white van cool. Now I want one too.

I too have been trying to fight off the urge to buy into Festool. I am really thinking about a dust extractor.... you know, for my health and safety. But I know an MFT table and track saw will be not far behind.
 
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You guys crack me up. If it makes you feel better jeffer949, my wife also says that a lot but I don't think it comes from the same place.

This week I'm slammed shooting a resort on the coast in Cannon Beach but for the first time I'm using the van for work. I was telling Jwoo last night after we wrapped how excited I was to not be lugging gear in and out of the hotel but staging it in the van. I have no idea why I waited so long to get a van. Oh, yeah, I had to build it. Still, I'm pretty happy to finally have it.

I'm looking forward to wrapping up this long run of work and getting back to the house and even some more work on the van. I've been talking to MG about testing a floor track system he's developing so that will be very cool. And then there's the bumpers and roof rack. Lots left to do. On the house too. Going to be a busy fall.

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Was drawing up plans for my drawers last night and figuring our how to best cut up the ply for maximum yield. Using my notebook and a standard bic pencil. Guess what is on its way from ebay?

Effing Gregor


On the gear in the van thing. I completely understand. I grew up with a cargo van as my dad built our house. Always full of tools that were dry and could stay put without the fear of theft. Then came the conversion vans of the 80's that quickly became a racing van once we started racing mx and our trailer broke down on the way to a race. We unbolted seats on the side of the road and somehow got all our bikes and gear in. Initially the
Plan was to pick up the trailer on the way home and fix it but someone decided they needed it more than we did. So the van got full time bike duty after that. We quickly realized it was the way to go after getting it set up. I had one when I was in school that always had my mx bike in the back. Lived in an apartment and the bike lived in the van. Had friends keeping there's in the kitchen of an upstairs apartments. I can't count how many friends have had bikes stolen out of truck beds or have them or some gear fall out while going down the road. I've never lost anything inside my vans though. My dad still has a race van but he pulls a 31ft toy hauler to races with it. Yet... his kx450 has never been in the toy hauler. It still lives in his van pretty much full time7a22b814144430327497440d899fc6f8.jpg

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Gregor, I had a taste of Alaska in 1957. The Alcan Highway was unpaved in Canada but paved in Alaska. We passed up driving the Denali Highway a few days after the road first opened that summer. Instead Dad put our Olds on a flatbed rail car in Fairbanks and we took the Alaska Railroad train into the park.

Wow, Bob, that's amazing. It's incredible that you have these amazing photos of that time. Thanks for sharing them.

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I just spent the last week going through all 112 pages of this. Like many have commented, I have arrived here with a major appreciation of your talents but burning hole in my wallet. Keep up the great and interesting work! :beer:
 
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I just spent the last week going through all 112 pages of this. Like many have commented, I have arrived here with a major appreciation of your talents but burning hole in my wallet. Keep up the great and interesting work! :beer:

Thanks akpingel. You're an animal - I can't bring myself to go back through the whole thing!

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Something that I hope comes through in my thread is that while I do love nice tools and equipment I'm usually looking for a way to do it on a budget. I mean, I bought a $3800 airport shuttle instead of a $100,000 Sportsmobile. And it goes without saying that the house needed work...

So while house work hasn't been happening I have been very busy with my actual job of photography. Having to do work on both coasts I've been buying up gear and selling older stuff to fund it. I'm always looking for a deal on used gear and when I find it I try to snag it. The great deals often need a bit of TLC so while in NYC the last month I gathered up all the gear I had that was broken or abused and brought it home to the shop.

Having the shop is a dream for which I'm always thankful. There's nothing quite like walking into the shop and knowing that I can pretty much fix anything.

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This ring flash had a Pem nut fail. I'm not a fan of Pem nuts for pretty much this reason but Rivnuts don't seem to suffer the same failures. Rivnuts use compression and Pem uses friction - at least as far as I can tell. So I've gotten over the fear that comes with opening up very expensive gear and I've found that it's generally pretty simple but with quality components.

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This ring was "repaired" with PC7 epoxy or something similar - that's the nut on the bench.

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I drilled out the opening to fit the M6 Rivnut I'd use and since it was apart I drilled out the undamaged one - which would fail at some point inevitably. Having a full set (letter, wire and fractional) of drill bits of every size is helpful.

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Back when I bought that english wheel for $150 I bought out pretty much all their rivets and rivnuts and the installing pliers. I had to buy metric ones but I've got a very complete set now. I find it useful for the trailer but also for repairing a lot of photo gear.

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This is the metric version of the installing tool that I got. Works great. Just thread the rivnut on the arbor and put it in the hole and then squeeze like you're opening a bottle of wine. Done.

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Repaired for a few pennies. A strobe repair shop would have charged me a few hundred at least.

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It may come as no surprise that the strobes I use, Broncolor, are by far the best there are. They're also extraordinarily expensive. I tend to stay about at least a generation behind which works well as they're always about two generations ahead of the competition. Strobe packs that cost $15,000 each are expensive but I find used ones for $1000-2000 and often the only thing wrong is missing feet or small dents.

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This one needed a small receiver for a battery pack. I'm getting better at my tolerances as I made a press fit part with a slight flare that would hold it in. I was surprised when it snapped tightly into place with no slop.

Electronics last forever so 30 minutes on the lathe saved me about $4-5000 and that seems like a pretty good deal. Besides, machining delrin is pretty fun. It cuts like there's nothing there.

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Sometimes I just need a part for a shoot and only realize it the night before. This mount, while not a big deal, let me mount my ring flash on my tripod quickrelease plate.

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Broncolor gave me a deal on a rental Para 88 that I've wanted for a long time. It's basically a really nice and accurate umbrella but it costs $4000. Yes, you read that right, a $4000 umbrella. When I got it it was missing a part but I only realized it the night before I had to fly to Utah. Out to the shop and with a bit of bending and welding and scavenging a mount from an old dented reflector I saved myself $350.

So, all that expensive gear in my shop has probably paid for itself in what I save by fixing things myself. At least that's what I tell myself. I'd do it either way as I like messing with stuff.

Gregor
 

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It's really satisfying to save money on small repairs like that. It definitely helps when it comes time to justify spending it on something else. I have been contemplating cracking open an old Tamron 24-70 2.8 as the autofocus stopped working. It's a backup lens now and paying someone to fix it would cost as much as just replacing it.
 

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Gregor,

I have to admit that I have not read every single page of this thread, however, I have read most of it. I miss things here and there but I still always try and find time to catch up.

With that said, you are truly an inspiration to all of us. You seem to have the capacity to just replace tools when they break, however, you are passionate about the tools that you have chosen and instead of throwing them to the side you repair them and keep them going. Simple things like this will do wonders for your children as you teach them that some things are worth working on rather than throwing to the side and disregarding them. To top it off, you don't just pick something because of its cost or associated reputation. You find a tool or piece of equipment that works well and is something that can be used to a greater capacity and put logic and reasoning ahead of cost and reputation - a trait I see diminishing in the younger generation (I'm only 30, but I see this happening even with my brother who is only 7 years younger than I am).

Also, I'm going to need to know your phone number and address so that I can direct my wife at you when she's upset that I'm now buying a trailer camper, 4x4 (and I'd have to make mine a stick because I don't buy automatics) full sized van, and start hoarding metal working equipment all in the name of repairing things I probably don't yet own.

Seriously keep up the great work, amazing stories, and allowing us to be inspired with great ideas to integrate into our own lives so that we, too, can make something a little better in this world by teaching our children the truly important things in life.
 

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EFFIN GREGOR!!

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FYI ... these are cheaper on Amazon than ebay (from what I found) as long as you buy 1. If you buy the 2 pack it goes from $11 to like $55 or something stupid.
 
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I'm back!

I was on the road for almost 6 weeks this fall and while it was nice to be busy and working I was getting really anxious to get home. Of course my first week home was raining but this week is glorious fall weather and so I decided to take advantage and get some work done.

The other part of this is that I invited my family to come for Christmas, like I do every year and they always have other plans. This year they all unexpectedly said yes and so my goal was to finish some of the house projects before Christmas. I work best under pressure.

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If you remember last year I opened up a wall in the living room to get to some power to run lights into the living room and found uninsulated walls. I planned to finish out the bump out closets on that back wall but was frustrated with matching the stain of the original clear fir paneling. It was most likely shellacked and has simply darkened with age. Then Christmas happened, then spring and funnily enough, summer was right after that. We spent the summer traveling, fixing the camper and building the van. Then work and here we are a year later. WTF?

So my goal is to build out those closets to look like they were an intentional part of the original house design which they weren't. They were added in 1976 judging from the newspaper I found in the wall when I was running the power.

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So exactly 1 year ago today (check the date!) I sketched out my plan - I'm not sure if I should be depressed at how slow I am to make progress or impressed that I continue to make progress - I'm going to go with impressed.

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That drawing sort of maps out the rough idea. Those closets are a visual eyesore that destroys this beautiful wall of clear fir paneling. It would be really hard to get rid of them so I need to make them fit. My plan is to build in two cabinets in the lower portions, most likely out of plywood. I'll put in some shelves and we can use it for storage which we're certainly lacking. It would make sense to just build them flush and cover the whole thing but I sense an opportunity to make a nice display area in the top. So my plan is to "wrap" the cabinets and upper portion so the boards go from the floor to the windows. It should look like the upper portion was pressed in and the lower cabinets should be close to invisible.

I'm still working out how I will do that.

But what I can't do is any of it if the tongue and groove clear fir that I custom ordered last year doesn't match the current walls and that's been something I haven't been able to to do despite a lot of effort. Let's take a walk down memory lane...

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I tried a bunch of different stains and they all reversed the grain. The light parts got darker than the dark parts and that looks awful. It was also really blotchy.

What you'll learn, what I learned, is that fir and most soft grained woods absorb stain easily but not equally. The soft (light) parts really **** it up and turn dark while the harder dark lines don't. Bastards. So what all the woodworking stores told me was to use a pre stain. It's essentially a glue that attempts to equalize the stain absorption. It didn't work for me and I tested about half a dozen. Shellac is the old school approach. It's a resin secreted by a bug onto trees in India - yeah, wikipedia it yourself - crazy. It's often sold in flakes to be dissolved in alcohol and has been a standard pre stain, sanding sealer and final finish for eons. It was also most likely what my walls were covered with back in 1956.

I found that shellac alone didn't reverse the grain but that stains on top didn't really penetrate or look good. They lacked the depth and glow that the original walls have.

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In the spring I thought I'd have another go at it. You can tell by how neat everything is that my attitude was positive. I was going to get this...

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Careful measuring then chaos.

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Several weeks later and I was closer but didn't find the solution. Well, with my new deadline I pulled out the samples again and did some more experimenting. We had a forecast of perfect weather all this week - it was now or never since I have no room to do this anywhere inside.

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I found a dye that worked in Shellac. I was told to use shellac that was dewaxed but it was cold and lacked the warmth I needed. Poly on top of shellac won't adhere they said. Generally speaking I found that "they" are almost always wrong and should be ignored.

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In an attempt to be accurate I was using a syringe to measure the dye. I kept chopping up my expensive fir into sample size and mixing new batches. Amber shellac was the bomb. It imparts a massive warmth that you expect and that I needed. Mixing dye with it though was still blotchy and would reverse the grain sometimes, in places. This past week I found something that I think works. It is a coat of amber shellac, let it dry and then my mixture as a second coat. The mixture is 500ml of Amber shellac, 10ml of medium brown TransTint, 1ml of golden brown TransTint and finally, 1-2ml of red brown TransTint. That's more for me than you - I refer to this thread when I can't recall something.

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Oh, yeah, we're getting close. Look at the top left one! Correct grain!

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The top and bottom are boards pulled from the wall and the middle is my samples. The winner is the third from the left but it still needed a tiny bit of the red. At this point I was just, whatever, it's wood, it's brown, get this done already.

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I set my saw horses with some 12' 2x4's so I could set out a bunch of boards and started with a single coat of amber shellac. I'll spare you all the application tests but out of roller, brush, painting pad and foam brush it was the foam brush that seamed to do the thinest, most even coat. And they're cheap and disposable. To truly do this right I would have set up a spray booth and done it with an HVLP gun. I contemplated it too...

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After the first coat was dry in about an hour I went over it with my special blend.

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I would keep taking an original board and compare it and it always seemed to be a tad light unless it was held in just the right way. I held off doing all them because if I was off I could make a running adjustment. If they're close I only need one to be a perfect match - the one that will **** up agains the existing wall. Variation is the rule in the wall so I can mix the lighter and darker and hopefully it will look like the original wall.

With fingers crossed I take one of the tighter grained boards inside to **** it up against the end of the original wall...

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aaaannnnndddd....

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Are you kidding me!?! It even has the same blotchy color variation! Get the hell out of here. Look, I have worked on this for weeks and I'm still surprised. Perfect? No, but it's 98% and given the variation in the existing wall I'm going to take it. That was so worth a years wait... okay, not really.

I only did about 1/3 of the boards I have. I did a test of double coating a few of the lighter boards and it's a tricky wicket. It looks even better matching up to some of the darker existing boards but it's very easy to mess it up. Shellac dissolves the underlying layer when it's applied. Fine when your first coat is the straight amber but trouble when it's the dye mixture.

Considering the bump out closets/cabinets are immediately after the wall I'm guessing the dimensional variation, the lighting change and such will mitigate any mismatch. That and the original wall has a lot of variation.

My last test was to see if the polyurethane I use will coat it and give any weird issues. It hasn't in previous tests but I needed to do one more on the final boards before I go all in tomorrow. That's drying now...

So, I'm back and have a deadline. Gotta make this happen.

Gregor
 
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