To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!

Mid-grade tools? Kobalt vs Husky vs ???

Rottweiler

New member
Joined
Oct 12, 2019
Messages
2
Location
Arkansas
Hello. First post.

I want to start filling my tool cabinet. But I'm not a pro and want to use mid grade tools - if that is a good term for brands like Kobalt. I thought to stay away from HF, but am willing to be educated.

So what brand in this range should I look to first?

Gonna start with the basics (wrenches, sockets, screwdrivers, pliers, etc.) and work my way up.

Any thoughts appreciated.
 
To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!

measuredtwice

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 17, 2019
Messages
1,705
Location
USA
If you are filling the tool cabinet rather than buying out of need then you have time to buy smarter and shop for deals. I've bought many high quality tools at the same price or less than the store brands. There's a hot deals section in the forum.

I'm sure that there will be plenty of Made in China/Taiwan propagandists and Harbor Freight shills to "educate" you about what they're selling. ;)
 

jasonphelps

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 9, 2018
Messages
130
Location
Amarillo, Texas
If you're going to buy Kobalt, you might as well save some money and buy the Taiwan made 90 tooth ratchet and sockets at WalMart under the Hyper Tough brand for less
 

Zewnten

Well-known member
Joined
Jun 11, 2017
Messages
1,798
I wouldn't consider kobalt and husky mid range tools. Carlyle, gearwrench, icon, and tekton would be. With sk Williams proto wright being what I would consider upper middle to top.
 
Last edited:

2ndGearRubber

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 24, 2014
Messages
14,185
Location
Pittsburgh
Pittsburgh pro sockets are of good quality, I used the goofy multi colored ones daily for several years before I wore a few of them out. 4 maybe? I'm a mechanic, so I wear out basically anything and everything. IIRC, the color can be washed off with brake clean if you so desire. It's like $15 out the door for a 10-19mm set. I replaced them with USA williams to treat myself, and compare. 8-19 via tools-delivered was in the low $60s. I'd consider other brands but the USA williams is so cheap and I have had spotty tool-truck service in the past. The "all numbers" part number williams are good stuff too. Low $40s for that set via toolsdelivered.

IMO there aren't any major losers out there. Most everything I've used works as expected. For home use, I can't imagine much out there would not meet your needs. USA williams are something I've been buying more lately - very high quality stuff. IMO Kobalt, husky, etc are just store brand stuff. Nothing wrong with it, but the bar isn't super high. Honestly, if Kobalt works well for you, continue on buying it.
 
Last edited:

giants

Banned
Joined
Feb 15, 2019
Messages
605
Location
California
I wouldn't consider kobalt it husky mix range tools. Carlyle, gearwrench, icon, and tekton. With sk Williams proto wright being what I would consider upper middle to top.

Thanks. What is it about Kobalt and Husky that makes them low-range? For example, did you have trouble warrantying Husky, as I'll describe below?
 

giants

Banned
Joined
Feb 15, 2019
Messages
605
Location
California
If you're going to buy Kobalt, you might as well save some money and buy the Taiwan made 90 tooth ratchet and sockets at WalMart under the Hyper Tough brand for less

Hyper Tough have only a 5 year warranty, if warranty duration is an issue for you, OP.
 

giants

Banned
Joined
Feb 15, 2019
Messages
605
Location
California
Pittsburgh pro sockets are of good quality, I used the goofy multi colored ones daily for several years before I wore a few of them out. 4 maybe? I'm a mechanic, so I wear out basically anything and everything. IIRC, the color can be washed off with brake clean if you so desire. It's like $15 out the door for a 10-19mm set. I replaced them with USA williams to treat myself, and compare. 8-19 via tools-delivered was in the low $60s. I'd consider other brands but the USA williams is so cheap and I have had spotty tool-truck service in the past. The "all numbers" part number williams are good stuff too. Low $40s for that set via toolsdelivered.

IMO there aren't any major losers out there. Most everything I've used works as expected. For home use, I can't imagine much out there would not meet your needs. USA williams are something I've been buying more lately - very high quality stuff. IMO Kobalt, husky, etc are just store brand stuff. Nothing wrong with it, but the bar isn't super high. Honestly, if Kobalt works well for you, continue on buying it.

Thanks. Where do you find deals on USA Williams tools?
 

CJM8515

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 8, 2014
Messages
9,292
Location
NJ
I wouldn't consider kobalt it husky mix range tools. Carlyle, gearwrench, icon, and tekton. With sk Williams proto wright being what I would consider upper middle to top.


so you do realize that the husky stuff is made by apex who makes gearwrench. the sockets are the same, the ratchets are 72t but otherwise the same besides a quick release.. :lol_hitti
 

giants

Banned
Joined
Feb 15, 2019
Messages
605
Location
California
Here's my experience.

I never use impact tools on non-impact, chrome sockets. That said, I've only broken one chrome socket, a no-brand name about 10-13mm made in Taiwan in the mid 2000's, but can't recall the circumstances.

GarageJournal wisely warned me to avoid anything electric or electronic at Harbor Freight, although the free LED lights work okay (so far). There's a sale now for a basic tool set, 3/8" 6-15mm for $4 with lifetime warranty.

https://www.harborfreight.com/40-pc-38-in-14-in-drive-sae-metric-socket-set-62843.html

It's hard to pass that deal up. Just in case, try to buy only lifetime warranty stuff there, which isn't hard to do. And sign up for their e-mail/text alerts about sales. There are free items, now flashlights, tarps, and tape measures for any purchase and 20% off coupons all the time for most items. Flat rate, 3-5 business day shipping is $7, which is cheaper than gas/bridge toll for me, so I use that to avoid having to make a special trip just to shop Harbor Freight. FYI, their customer service phone line takes the better part of an hour to contact. And scan your receipts, because some fade (though giving them your phone number on purchase and warrantying bypasses the need for warranty exchanges, though I always like paper documentation in hand).

I've bought some Harbor Freight tools and had problems with torque wrenches and a screw extractor set. I exchanged both (screw extractor had 90 day warranty) without any problems. I lubricate all Harbor Freight ratchets upon purchase, which makes most of the ratchet less loudly.

I have a Home Depot Husky 111 piece mechanics tool set I paid about $45 for last year. I leave it at school and it has light use in my auto class, but I have no complaints about it. Apex makes Husky and GearWrench, though I don't know about the quality level of each.

I have a Husky torque wrench without receipt (vintage early 2000s) that Home Depot replaced last month after my printing their current torque wrench policy: warranty in store, no receipt or questions asked. They did NOT give me a receipt, telling me the packaging suffices to warranty it. Um, no. Here's what happened.

This past Thursday, I brought the new Husky to my Home Depot Pro shop. I showed them the box and website about in store, no receipt, no questions asked. Two cashiers argued with me about some novel store policy that it has to be returned to Husky and were impervious to my proof. One went to a manager who "made an exception this time for you." I was pissed. However, she gave me a receipt for the new one, which I scanned at home and put the original in my Tool Warranty file.

A few months back, I was looking at flex head ratchets. The Husky brand had a big head and was $30 something. Tekton was about half the price and much leaner.

Tekton.com has some great deals on socket and ratchet/socket sets. I'd seriously look at those, because the prices are hard to beat (except for Harbor Freight, but I acknowledge that the extra price is worth it).

Tekton has 10% back rewards, no sale tax, free shipping, lifetime warranty, and no hassle warranty. The trick is to set up a free account with them for free shipping, then you can order any items without having to pay shipping.

Avoid current Made-in-China Craftsman until they either REALLY improve the quality and/or return to the US for manufacture. I kid you not that I cut my finger on a ratchet head at Sears a few months back.

Presidents' Day, Father's Day, Black Friday, and after Christmas are the times to shop Home Depot and Lowe's for tool deals. However, keep your eyes open when shopping there. A couple months back, Home Depot had an unadvertised display of 5 rubber grip gloves for $10, which I bought.

Oh, no conflicts of interest to disclose for my discussing my experienece.
 
Last edited:

giants

Banned
Joined
Feb 15, 2019
Messages
605
Location
California
Pittsburgh pro sockets are of good quality, I used the goofy multi colored ones daily for several years before I wore a few of them out. 4 maybe? I'm a mechanic, so I wear out basically anything and everything. IIRC, the color can be washed off with brake clean if you so desire. It's like $15 out the door for a 10-19mm set. I replaced them with USA williams to treat myself, and compare. 8-19 via tools-delivered was in the low $60s. I'd consider other brands but the USA williams is so cheap and I have had spotty tool-truck service in the past. The "all numbers" part number williams are good stuff too. Low $40s for that set via toolsdelivered.

IMO there aren't any major losers out there. Most everything I've used works as expected. For home use, I can't imagine much out there would not meet your needs. USA williams are something I've been buying more lately - very high quality stuff. IMO Kobalt, husky, etc are just store brand stuff. Nothing wrong with it, but the bar isn't super high. Honestly, if Kobalt works well for you, continue on buying it.

Thanks, Scott. In what way did those HF sockets wear out?
 

2ndGearRubber

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 24, 2014
Messages
14,185
Location
Pittsburgh
Thanks. Where do you find deals on USA Williams tools?

I typically use toolsdelivered.com. The USA made tools will have both letters and numbers in the part-number. They will also be marked as USA made. The Taiwanese tools use only numbers in the part-number, and have no other indication of origin. Both are of good quality in my experience.

Zoro.com often has 20% off sales and coupons. Great place to buy from; as is toolsdelivered.
 

2ndGearRubber

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 24, 2014
Messages
14,185
Location
Pittsburgh
Thanks, Scott. In what way did those HF sockets wear out?

I typically wear sockets out in the business end, they just get sloppy eventually. Occasionally I'll crack one, but most of the time it's wear. Imagine a 6 point socket, where it would interface with the fastener - Then pull the points of the hex outward, while keeping the center of the flats in the same place. It creates an almost rounded profile, and a bit oversized. More or less like the reverse of a rounded fastener. The socket grabs the fastener right at the flats outside the points - now just picture what slowly wallowing out in that area. Not only does it make for a slightly sloppy fit, it adds to the total "lash" required to engage the fastener, as one needs to rotate a few more degrees to compensate for the wear. This is extremely aggravating in tight areas, or when you're on the edge of the backlash your ratchet can handle, or limited in swing arc.


Every brand I've used regularly for any length of time will do this. HF, craftsman, gearwrench, cornwell, snap-on, USA/import williams, blue-point, sunex, it doesn't really matter. It's typically the 3/8 12/13/14/15 that take the worst of the beating. After 4+ years, my 13/14 were pretty well beat. They still turned bolts fine, but the lash issue and a fear of stripping bolts made me replace them. HF probably would have warrantied them, but I wanted to try something different. I like to sample a lot of brands, see what's out there.



No; I do not impact on my chromes. Impact sockets will eventually wallow out in this way too. I replaced my deep 1/2 drive sunex impacts last year due to this, 15-22 were just freaking beat. They lasted 6? years or so? No cracks or failures, just the lash issue, and a fear of rounding. I work in the rust belt, stuff can round with a brand new socket. But the wear adds up, so I replace when need be. Then I have extras to make tools out of, etc.
 
Last edited:

giants

Banned
Joined
Feb 15, 2019
Messages
605
Location
California
I typically use toolsdelivered.com. The USA made tools will have both letters and numbers in the part-number. They will also be marked as USA made. The Taiwanese tools use only numbers in the part-number, and have no other indication of origin. Both are of good quality in my experience.

Zoro.com often has 20% off sales and coupons. Great place to buy from; as is toolsdelivered.

Thanks. Where on zoro.com would I find the 20% off sales? Any way around the $50 minimum for free shipping?
 

giants

Banned
Joined
Feb 15, 2019
Messages
605
Location
California
I typically wear sockets out in the business end, they just get sloppy eventually. Occasionally I'll crack one, but most of the time it's wear. Imagine a 6 point socket, where it would interface with the fastener - Then pull the points of the hex outward, while keeping the center of the flats in the same place. It creates an almost rounded profile, and a bit oversized. More or less like the reverse of a rounded fastener. The socket grabs the fastener right at the flats outside the points - now just picture what slowly wallowing out in that area. Not only does it make for a slightly sloppy fit, it adds to the total "lash" required to engage the fastener, as one needs to rotate a few more degrees to compensate for the wear. This is extremely aggravating in tight areas, or when you're on the edge of the backlash your ratchet can handle, or limited in swing arc.

Every brand I've used regularly for any length of time will do this. HF, craftsman, gearwrench, cornwell, snap-on, USA/import williams, blue-point, sunex, it doesn't really matter. It's typically the 3/8 12/13/14/15 that take the worst of the beating. After 4+ years, my 13/14 were pretty well beat. The still turned bolts fine, but the lash issue and a fear of stripping bolts made me replace them. HF probably would have warrantied them, but I wanted to try something different. I like to sample a lot of brands, see what's out there.

No; I do not impact on my chromes. Impact sockets will eventually wallow out in this way too. I replaced my deep 1/2 drive sunex impacts last year due to this, 15-22 were just freaking beat. They lasted 6? years or so? No cracks or failures, just the lash issue, and a fear of rounding. I work in the rust belt, stuff can round with a brand new socket. But the wear adds up, so I replace when need be. Then I have extras to make tools out of, etc.

Thanks. I'll be more mindful of the business ends. I started my tool collection in the early 2000s, so I got the last of the US Craftsmans sockets. I have a set of EVO and non-EVO US-made impacts, used them fairly frequently, and haven't had any problems. EVOs now require receipts to warranty at Sears, though I may try to warranty them at Lowe's (I don't recall that being a requirement back then, but I wasn't that careful about reading the fine print).

OP, Craftsman.com said that ANY retailer must warranty Craftsman, including Ace and Lowe's. Lowe's gave me pushback when I warrantied a tool box, but they backed down. Craftsman.com said that if this happens again, have Lowe's call them to set them straight.

However, think long and hard if you happen to have US Craftsman tools, because they'll warranty them with Chinese Craftsman.

Oh, and don't forget about craigslist, garage sales, estate sales, and flea markets ("swap meets") for deals.
 
Last edited:

nate_g_2003

Active member
Joined
Jul 28, 2015
Messages
28
Location
Gregory, TX
I have a few of the Husky ratcheting wrenches (non-flex, without the reverse switch) and they work great. My main wrench set is Genius brand, with the Husky ones complimenting MY most commonly used sizes in my job. I've only had to warranty 2 in the past few years, and it's been a breeze at my local THD: hand them the old one, go back and get a new one, they scan the new one, and I'm out the door.

I also have a 1/2" impact socket set from Sunex, and I've been really impressed with it so far. Their Sunexpress online warranty service is super easy to use.

I'm pretty sold on Genius and Sunex personally, but I don't shy away from Husky for certain things, especially given the price. In my short time here so far, I feel like Genius is a brand that gets overlooked, and I can't figure out why.
 

giants

Banned
Joined
Feb 15, 2019
Messages
605
Location
California
I have a few of the Husky ratcheting wrenches (non-flex, without the reverse switch) and they work great. My main wrench set is Genius brand, with the Husky ones complimenting MY most commonly used sizes in my job. I've only had to warranty 2 in the past few years, and it's been a breeze at my local THD: hand them the old one, go back and get a new one, they scan the new one, and I'm out the door.

I also have a 1/2" impact socket set from Sunex, and I've been really impressed with it so far. Their Sunexpress online warranty service is super easy to use.

I'm pretty sold on Genius and Sunex personally, but I don't shy away from Husky for certain things, especially given the price. In my short time here so far, I feel like Genius is a brand that gets overlooked, and I can't figure out why.

"I've only had to warranty 2 in the past few years, and it's been a breeze at my local THD"

Warrantied 2 Husky or Genius?
What does THD stand for?
Thanks
 
To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!

Parrothead

Well-known member
Joined
Apr 27, 2014
Messages
5,346
Location
Earth
In my short time here so far, I feel like Genius is a brand that gets overlooked, and I can't figure out why.

I think Genius, Toptul, Ez Red and others fit into that category of better than average rebrand import tools that outside of tool geeks here nobody’s ever heard of or seen in the wild. What’s the benefit versus, say Tekton? Tekton is sold at Meijer, and warranty is super easy. The path of least resistance is most often chosen.

Genius Tools 47 Piece 3/8" Dr. Metric & SAE Deep Hand Socket Set GS-347MS https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000I1T96C/?tag=atomicindus08-20 $90

TEKTON 3/8 Inch Drive 6-Point Socket & Ratchet Set, 47-Piece (5/16 - 3/4 in., 8 - 19 mm) | SKT15301 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07P6RJXJ9/?tag=atomicindus08-20 $65
 

yrly

Well-known member
Joined
Jul 23, 2006
Messages
691
If you're going to buy Kobalt, you might as well save some money and buy the Taiwan made 90 tooth ratchet and sockets at WalMart under the Hyper Tough brand for less

Hyper Tough is complete junk. It’s just whatever Test Rite Products Co. can source overseas as cheaply as possible to meet the Wal-Mart price point. When this stuff came out my friend and I who worked there at the time used to joke about it. We bought one of their sets and broke the ratchet within a few hours at the junk yard just taking engine components off. Kobalt or Stanley is better.
 

giants

Banned
Joined
Feb 15, 2019
Messages
605
Location
California
I think Genius, Toptul, Ez Red and others fit into that category of better than average rebrand import tools that outside of tool geeks here nobody’s ever heard of or seen in the wild. What’s the benefit versus, say Tekton? Tekton is sold at Meijer, and warranty is super easy. The path of least resistance is most often chosen.

Genius Tools 47 Piece 3/8" Dr. Metric & SAE Deep Hand Socket Set GS-347MS https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000I1T96C/?tag=atomicindus08-20 $90

TEKTON 3/8 Inch Drive 6-Point Socket & Ratchet Set, 47-Piece (5/16 - 3/4 in., 8 - 19 mm) | SKT15301 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07P6RJXJ9/?tag=atomicindus08-20 $65

What troubles me is that the Genius Tool kit has been available on Amazon since 2006, yet does not have a single review.
 

stovebolt6

Well-known member
Joined
Nov 18, 2013
Messages
137
Location
Canada

Mikeske

Well-known member
Joined
Apr 28, 2017
Messages
2,125
Location
Washington State
The one thing most overlook is pawn shops. You might have to take your time to get matching sets but some of the pawn shops have bins and bins of wrenches and sockets. I have literally worked my way thru some of those bins and found some real gems in them of USA Craftsman, Sunex, Bonney, Mac, Snap-on and you name it and that brand is likely in it. I built my grandson a complete matching kit out of those bins of USA Craftsman sockets and all of them looked brand new in metric and SAE. I also got a complete USA Craftsman set of wrenches in SAE and metric for under $30.00.

As for the ratchets I went with Matco's in 1/4" 3/8" & 1/2" that I found for $25.00. You just have to really take the time and its all there and for the sockets it was 50 cents each. The pawn shop I frequent even gave me socket rails for free in each of the various sizes.
 

gearhead1

Well-known member
Joined
Oct 14, 2013
Messages
1,935
Location
NC
I’m in the camp that if you take your time, you can the deals on higher end US made stuff between flea markets, garage sales, and eBay. When buying new stuff, watch out for sales. Black Friday is coming soon, then Cyber Monday.

Husky and the new Craftsman should be fine for home use. I wouldn’t necessarily stick with one brand for everything, get what you can when it’s a deal an build your tool collection that way.
 

stonesfan68

Well-known member
Joined
Apr 19, 2012
Messages
2,758
Location
Houston, TX
I'd avoid the Kobalt brand as they are all but disappearing from the shelves at Lowes and being replaced by SBD Craftsman.
 

Mr_B

Well-known member
Joined
Nov 21, 2016
Messages
5,374
Location
Reading
Plenty good options this time of year with sales going on.
No one brand good et everything .
Likes of carlyle tekton, gearwrench, husky, HF pitts pro and even icon going have few things ideal for a prosumer kit and if you organise yourself on deals and sales it all pretty low cost and good value .
 

nate_g_2003

Active member
Joined
Jul 28, 2015
Messages
28
Location
Gregory, TX
I think Genius, Toptul, Ez Red and others fit into that category of better than average rebrand import tools that outside of tool geeks here nobody’s ever heard of or seen in the wild. What’s the benefit versus, say Tekton? Tekton is sold at Meijer, and warranty is super easy. The path of least resistance is most often chosen.
This is absolutely true. I only stumbled onto Genius via one of my old jobs, where I was told to clear a space out and throw everything out. One of the items was a 1/2" Metric socket set, with a breaker, extensions, spark plug sockets, metric hex bit sockets, corresponding combo wrenches, all packed in a kaizen foamed Pelican 1550 case! Aside from being baffled that I was to get rid of it (it ended up going home with me, and lives in my truck full time), I was really impressed with the quality. It was years ahead of the Craftsman stuff I grew up with.

What troubles me is that the Genius Tool kit has been available on Amazon since 2006, yet does not have a single review.

That is strange.
 

CJM8515

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 8, 2014
Messages
9,292
Location
NJ
The one thing most overlook is pawn shops. You might have to take your time to get matching sets but some of the pawn shops have bins and bins of wrenches and sockets. I have literally worked my way thru some of those bins and found some real gems in them of USA Craftsman, Sunex, Bonney, Mac, Snap-on and you name it and that brand is likely in it. I built my grandson a complete matching kit out of those bins of USA Craftsman sockets and all of them looked brand new in metric and SAE. I also got a complete USA Craftsman set of wrenches in SAE and metric for under $30.00.


Pawn shops are nice to find stuff at, but depending on your location they might not be very many of them. Im in NJ, they dont exist really. I have traveled extensively for work-seems the south and midwest have plenty of them however
 

Zewnten

Well-known member
Joined
Jun 11, 2017
Messages
1,798
so you do realize that the husky stuff is made by apex who makes gearwrench. the sockets are the same, the ratchets are 72t but otherwise the same besides a quick release.. :lol_hitti

The actual Gearwrench brand tools I have compared to equivalent Husky tools, I have found a noticable difference in quality control. I consider Husky, Kobalt, and Pittsburgh (not Pittsburgh Pro) good enough for what they cost, use them at a junk yard or on a construction site and if you lose a few no big deal. But I wouldn't recommend them if better could be afforded.
 

Yarpo

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 11, 2017
Messages
1,355
Location
Minnesota
The actual Gearwrench brand tools I have compared to equivalent Husky tools, I have found a noticable difference in quality control. I consider Husky, Kobalt, and Pittsburgh (not Pittsburgh Pro) good enough for what they cost, use them at a junk yard or on a construction site and if you lose a few no big deal. But I wouldn't recommend them if better could be afforded.

That's because the Husky tools are made in China, while Gearwrenches sockets/ratchets/screwdrivers etc are made in Taiwan. They're not the same in really any way shape or form. Different mechanisms in the ratchets, different design on the sockets, etc.
 

CJM8515

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 8, 2014
Messages
9,292
Location
NJ
The actual Gearwrench brand tools I have compared to equivalent Husky tools, I have found a noticable difference in quality control. I consider Husky, Kobalt, and Pittsburgh (not Pittsburgh Pro) good enough for what they cost, use them at a junk yard or on a construction site and if you lose a few no big deal. But I wouldn't recommend them if better could be afforded.



Used husky professionally for ten years. Other than wearing out the ratchets no issues and I abused them
 

Professional Tool User

Well-known member
Joined
Apr 9, 2018
Messages
1,835
Location
BC
That's because the Husky tools are made in China, while Gearwrenches sockets/ratchets/screwdrivers etc are made in Taiwan. They're not the same in really any way shape or form. Different mechanisms in the ratchets, different design on the sockets, etc.

As of late, a lot of GW stuff is being Made in China. If Apex tool group continues to cut corners on GW tools, it will barely be able to qualify as mid grade. As for Husky tools it depends on what vintage we are talking about. The old USA made Husky is on the same level as old USA made Craftsman. The new stuff shows clear signs of cost cutting.
 

giants

Banned
Joined
Feb 15, 2019
Messages
605
Location
California
Used husky professionally for ten years. Other than wearing out the ratchets no issues and I abused them

Thanks

Do you mean the ratcheting mechanism on the ratchets? What are the symptoms?

Do you have the same experience with the ratcheting wrenches?
 

Yarpo

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 11, 2017
Messages
1,355
Location
Minnesota
As of late, a lot of GW stuff is being Made in China. If Apex tool group continues to cut corners on GW tools, it will barely be able to qualify as mid grade. As for Husky tools it depends on what vintage we are talking about. The old USA made Husky is on the same level as old USA made Craftsman. The new stuff shows clear signs of cost cutting.

No, it isnt.

Gearwrench 81263 - MADE IN TAIWAN

a753e368e33fccb48c93b8cdd0952579.png

82e2df6f225c8bdc68ddb4ab71022375.png

Gearwrench 81223 - MADE IN TAIWAN

1a3a3167fd03ae3ad319b64dc90de6af.png

Gearwrench 80708 - MADE IN TAIWAN

5c40f4c173de3ae24c978b9d6ff7a607.png

292ddb390c2e1872e14226b732e0452b.png

Gearwrench 84946 - MADE IN TAIWAN

5e77937d1a96be5e5ed23dd5763ff5a0.png

Gearwrench 80322 - MADE IN TAIWAN

19961e8b920d50450426fa0d4d44df91.png

a2c4d6a51dc746d8c02111d964e8db17.png

Gearwrench 84080 - MADE IN TAIWAN

24b6bdbf23b32926a5daef1fc9a12041.png

52f8a250be230285eb3440048a02e9a1.png

Gearwrench 84000 - MADE IN TAIWAN

552e1caacbf3485058e99780ab10840f.png

Gearwrench 82682 - MADE IN TAIWAN

718ebeffe9a2d19335a4cec18376f716.png

Gearwrench 80554 - 80552 - MADE IN TAIWAN

34e19dc76d95a0dee87b1453d4a64a7a.jpg

8b9952a8d9f62267a8257d038dfd4fb1.png

Gearwrench 80304 - 80555 - 80554 - MADE IN TAIWAN

bd2faf841540042f604efe99d9d16820.png

9b9c79871c5629c9a4d6ad64b32df502.png

Gearwrench 80583 - MADE IN TAIWAN

4326e00b095fcabf136e873424104a99.png

Gearwrench 80601 - MADE IN TAIWAN

0584a9d9499128124c7f28681f10a231.jpg

Gearwrench 85987 - 85988 - MADE IN TAIWAN

efe05ce3fbc2a582fda83e5b075e5c46.png

Gearwrench 83105 - MADE IN TAIWAN

0687e065b4cadb216442858b2bd293e5.png

Gearwrench 81230F - MADE IN TAIWAN

5bc3377b77cc4a01ac4fd96359da85b3.jpg

db7366edfc0fb24c8d4d21f9334bf5a2.jpg

Gearwrench 82300 - 82220 - MADE IN TAIWAN

70e576bd1efc7c6f91caa8824965d953.jpg

Gearwrench 81012F - MADE IN TAIWAN

1770ea21f2b65be7f6febd5b759670a7.png

d28e23e3c283928b4427613277f19bd5.png

Any other products you'd like to see? I've got an old phone that has probably equal number of pictures, or can we just agree to dispel this incorrect myth? Other things made in Taiwan that I've purchased in the last two years include Chrome Swivels (80310 80311 80565 ) - Gearwrench Torx - (80723 and 80588) Gearwrench Serp belt tool (3680) Gearwrench extensions 1/4, 3/8, 1/2 (81002, 81301, 81201) Gearwrench long picks (84010) and...there's probably more. They've been making their impact sockets in china for awhile as well as their basic ratcheting wrenches (Flat/offset) but that seems to be about it. Might as well say Snap on is shifting production to China or Taiwan too, since I'm sure you could find a few tools they brand from abroad.
 
Last edited:

nate_g_2003

Active member
Joined
Jul 28, 2015
Messages
28
Location
Gregory, TX
Thanks

Do you mean the ratcheting mechanism on the ratchets? What are the symptoms?

Do you have the same experience with the ratcheting wrenches?

I know you were asking CJM about his experience, but my experience with the current Husky ratcheting wrenches has been great, especially considering the price of individual wrenches. The two failures I experienced
10mm flex ratcheting combo: ratcheting part of wrench would lock up randomly. That was a pain working inside fenders (to remove bumper covers), so I warrantied it.

9/16 ratcheting combo wrench: lost ratcheting ability (wouldn't click).

I know they aren't high dollar, but for me, the ability to buy individual wrenches as the need arised, the low individual cost per wrench, and the ease of warranty replacement definitely makes up for any issues they may have quality-wise.
 

The Fall

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 20, 2016
Messages
419
Location
Austin, TX
"Every brand I've used regularly for any length of time will do this. HF, craftsman, gearwrench, cornwell, snap-on, USA/import williams, blue-point, sunex, it doesn't really matter. It's typically the 3/8 12/13/14/15 that take the worst of the beating. After 4+ years, my 13/14 were pretty well beat. They still turned bolts fine, but the lash issue and a fear of stripping bolts made me replace them. HF probably would have warrantied them, but I wanted to try something different. I like to sample a lot of brands, see what's out there."

1970s and older domestics. It's the 9/16" and 1/2" sockets on that stuff. I don't use my chrome sockets on my 3/8" impact, but those two sizes wear out in the manner you mentioned. I can't break my SK sockets even on a 3/8" drive 17" breaker bar. But they do start to wear on the flank near the corner. It's been over two years of constant use and I think I'll replace those two sockets in deep and shallow soon. I agree: it happens even to high-grade sockets. My Ideal-era SKs have been great. No complaints.
 
To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!
Top Bottom