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bradpac

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This mill is for sale locally, I was thinking about picking it up, but something looks a little off from the Bridgeports I've been around. I can't find any concrete information searching online about Metal Master mills. Can anyone on here post up some information if this would make a good small mill for my hobby shop or if I should keep shopping.

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The Y-axis handle looks a little off to me.....I'd make sure nothing got smashed there and bent the screw.

The wheel wasn't reinvented on a lot of clones. You could probably bolt a J/2J head right into it if you didn't like what you got.
 

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Looks like some of the generic Taiwan/Chinese machines of the '80s. That being said, if the price is right and its under power, I wouldn't pass on it. How much are they asking, and what all does it come with?
 

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Like mentioned, generic import BP clone. Could be fine for the right price, but does look a little rough.
 

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Pretend you need a part for the mill. then see if you can find the parts.
If you can't find replacement parts I would recommend for you to pass.
I have a cincinnati toolmaster, which I love but its hard to find parts
 
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They're asking $1200. Trying to get more details out of the guys but haven't heard back. I don't think it's under power which makes me want to pass. Pretty sure it's just in storage. Being that I tried looking up that name and couldn't find a mill in that class using it, replacement parts will probably be tough, so it will all depend on if it works and how cheap. I'm guessing it will be a pass in person unless they have a lot of tooling to go with it.
 

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1200 is not a realistic price for that machine.

Offer half that and then ask them to get it powered up and run it thru all axis first.

If you find any actual mechanical failures walk away.
 

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There are brands of clones that are common enough that even I have heard of them. That doesn't look Taiwanese. At that age ,it wouldn't be mainland Chinese either. Chinese as a race tend to spend time making things look good, skipping the internal fine details. That looks like a rebranded European, like Spain.

Parts on almost any used machine tool are make your own.
 
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bradpac

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So is Spain better than Taiwanese?

There are brands of clones that are common enough that even I have heard of them. That doesn't look Taiwanese. At that age ,it wouldn't be mainland Chinese either. Chinese as a race tend to spend time making things look good, skipping the internal fine details. That looks like a rebranded European, like Spain.

Parts on almost any used machine tool are make your own.
 

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Spain has been called the China of Europe. I would put Taiwan ahead, but that's just an opinion, I live on the wet,( not a misspelling ), coast, so we see a lot of Asian imports.
 

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From the looks of the Y axis handle that machine looks to have had a rough life plus it looks like the right side X axis handle is missing. I’d offer scrap price for it and if they don’t bite move on to another one.
 

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With respect, scrap price, ~5 cents per pound on a ~2000 lb machine = $100.

I wouldn't waste the seller's time. The only scenario I can see is if a widow is trying to clean out a shop space and just "wants it all gone".
 

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Texas has a lot less to pick from as far as machine tools go. Handles get damaged, that's not a huge issue if the screw isn't bent (even a screw isn't that much). If it runs and sounds good then ~$800 is probably a fair price. If it isn't under power I would try to get closer to $500 or under. Location is the biggest determining factor. Someone might give him the $1200 if there's nothing else to pick through in the area.
 

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You guys have it too easy. :D If that was anywhere near me (Alaska) for $1,200, it'd be sold in eight minutes, and the seller would have to field 20 more calls before he managed to take down the Craigslist ad.

And that's really not hyperbole.

As for repair parts, that should not be a consideration, because with relatively few exceptions, virtually NO home-shop sized machine tool you might run across, has commonly available spare parts.

Bridgeport? Lots of used parts when people break apart used machines, but factory parts, if they're available, are fabulously expensive.

Lots of South Bend, Logan and to a lesser extent, Clausing lathes are broken down and sold for parts. SB and Clausing new parts simply don't exist, and new Logan parts, if that part is still available, are also fabulously expensive.

10EE parts can be had, but again, only from broken-down used lathes or for new-car prices from Hardinge.

Look in the Vintage Lathe thread: Jabber's Rivett is a rare model from company whose common product is considered rare. Should he have passed on that because parts are basically unobtainium?

How many spare parts do you think are available for Adrian's Hendy, my Springfield, Turbo's Pacemaker or Steve's 13EE?

I recently rebuilt an Exacto Mill, made by long-defunct Spanish maker Anayak. Replacement parts basically do not exist inside the United States, and this particular machine was kind of thrashed when I got it.

Today, with a little work, it's a very nice, tight and reliable mill.

Don't pass on a machine just because there's not a stocking dealer right down the road.

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$1200 isn't even in the realm of reasonable, unless it comes with $600+ of tooling.
 

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Pretend you need a part for the mill. then see if you can find the parts.
If you can't find replacement parts I would recommend for you to pass.
I have a cincinnati toolmaster, which I love but its hard to find parts

This is a very valid point.

You can't go wrong with a Bridgeport. Parts are available everywhere. Clones, particularly old ones, not so much.
 
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bradpac

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Thanks everyone for the insights. Sadly, I'm thinking it's all a mute point because I can't get the seller to respond to me at all so I'll probably never even get to check it out. Really don't see mills come up fro sale that often here in central TX. Most of the time they get listed over $2000 and need work so this one peaked my interest.
 
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