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Miller Thunderbolt 225. Any Experience?

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Hey all, I have the opportunity to pick up a Miller Thunderbolt 225 for a pretty good price and I am wondering what you guys think or if anyone owns/uses one. I am trying to get back into welding more and I think this would be a good machine to get the ball rolling with. I know it can stick weld and I have read that I can use it to cut steel. I am not looking for a do it all machine for the price I am getting it at, but is there anything else I need to be aware of? Thanks.

-Greg
 
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goodfellow

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It depends what you want to do. I know that sounds evasive, but no one machine is good for everything. Thunderbolts are an industry staple (just like the Lincoln 225 tombstone models). They are light duty, non-industrial machines. If the machine is an AC only model, it is a good general purpose unit that can weld anything from heavy gauge sheet all the way up to heavy plate. It takes a lot of practice to lay down good welds with an AC stick machine though -- that's the nature of AC current. It's not good for traditional body sheet metal work; you need a MIG or TIG to weld the thinner material. A basic AC unit will allow you to do gouging and cutting with special electrodes -- just don't expect the result to look like a plasma cutter.

If the machine is an AC/DC unit, then you have a much wider range of options as far as electrodes are concerned. DC provides a more stable arc and is easier to control. This flexibility will allows you to be more effcient in welding at odd angles and overhead positions. Since you have more electrode choices, it also allows you to weld steel and certain alloys more efficiently than traditional AC.

Most guys that own an AC/DC machine will set it to DC and forget it -- DC is much more efficient and verstatile than AC operation. That said, if you get proficient at controlling an AC arc, then there isn't much that the machine won't handle.
 
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Well, it turns out that the initial 225 I found is no longer for sale. I have since found another one for just as good a price, but the new one is ac/dc. So I guess I am lucking out in that matter.

And I also want to make it clear that I am not trying to be one of those guys that thinks this machine is going to do everything for me. I am looking to start acquiring a decent range of metal fab tools and I have always been told that a stick welder is a must. I acknowledge that stick is not the cleanest/neatest type of welding, but can handle the big stuff with no problem. I am also looking to acquire a HH 187 in the coming weeks so that will handle all the neat stuff for me. Thanks for your help so far!

-Greg
 
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jay50

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You will be happy with the 225. Great box and will last without transformer problems like cheap HF ****.
 

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I've got the AC/DC. IIRC DC is only around 150A? In any case, I think it's a fine machine for hobby/light use.
 

Matt Matthews

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Greg, I have a thunderbolt 300 AC/DC machine it is a outstanding light industrial machine and you will love welding DC. I have never used it to sever. A recommendation when you first bring it home blow out the machine and grease the shunt block.
For what its worth my machine has a 90% duty cycle at 100 amps DC.

Enjoy your machine, It is a icon.

Matt
 

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hi, the earlier models that have plug in male connectors into machine are the best. You can add another set of jacksons and 100 feet of cable. Have no problem running 1/8 6010 0r 3/32 7018. only disadvantage as with any transformer machine is electric cost. If not too tight on money take a look at the MILLER MAXSTAR machines. These are the inverter type, AWESOME!!!!!!!!!! Electrical cost is really noticeable less. I got the CST 280 but do alot of welding. Super machine. The 150 might be just right for you in a stick machine or the 180 mig. welding machine should be a long term investment so get the most power you can afford. Check out the MILLER site for how to spend all your money . How about one for the wife or girlfriend for valentine day ??? good luck in your choice.
 

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I've had an AC only 225 Thunnderbolt for 17 years now and bought it used to boot. Paid $100 bucks for it, if I remember right. Haven't had any serious problems with it except that lately the fan motor is starting to squeak. Guess I'll have to replace the motor soon. Anyhow, it's been a good, dependable machine for the light duty, non-professional use I put it through.
 

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i have got about a 1969 thunderbolt ac 225 badged as and acklands welder, it have worked excellently the one thing i wish it had was dc.
 

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I've been using a Lincoln tombstone that must be at least 35 years old. Bought it from original owner many years ago.
 
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The lead makes it worth it, the value is right at 100. If you are doing generic work on a bench is ok, for working on equipment the DC model is so much better and worth 300 in comparison.
 

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Well looks like I will kick this thread up again. Currently I have a Miller 110v mig welder. I really like it. I can weld up to 1/4" usually with no problem, but get scared the penetration isnt what it should be. I would really like a 220v mig, but can not afford one (used ones are hard to come by around me) I have used a 220v Miller a few years ago and loved it.

So I have been toying around with the idea of a stick welder. I have never used one. Have no idea what to look for except I know that the Lincoln tombstones are one of the best. I just found this Miller Thunderbolt AC/DC near me. Can anyone tell me if this price is ok? Or what should I offer?

https://allentown.craigslist.org/tls/5988328071.html
 

jeff64

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I've owned a Thunderbolt 225 AC/DC model since about 1988. I replaced the cooling fan about three years ago. The long leads are a definite plus, so I would that's a fair price.
 

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Yep, that's a really good price with 100' leads. I have had two of the exact same model and paid $250 for each of them in the last year. The first came with 35lbs of Lincoln Excalibur 7018 and a cart. The second came with the original manual, decent leads and the factory wheels/cart handle. I kept the first one and sold the second for $350 as I recall.

I'm far from the most experienced welder around, but I'm very happy with the quality of welds I get with the Thunderbolt, and you'll have no worries about penetration.

I won't say the Lincoln Tombstone is a bad welder, but the 15amp increments is just way too much for my liking. I'll take the Thunderbolt AC/DC any day over a tombstone for no other reason than infinitely variable amperage.
 
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