Millermatic 210 Fair Price?

[Nixon]

As the title states what is a fair 'street price' for a Miller 210 with a spool gun. From what I am told this has been used very little and the spool gun is still new. I'm not looking for the deal of a lifetime price, just the average used price.

Thanks guys......

 

[pro machine Engineering]

I would look on ebay and get an average. also You can get on one of the sites that will search all of craigslist through out the country. To see what the price is going for. I dont see a whole lot of the bigger mig welders come up for sale used. As most people that have them tend to keep them.

 

[kc-steve]

The eBay thing might be helpful but usually eBay is over priced.

I would ALSO go to a welding supplier and ask them what their bottom line is for a NEW one. I have talked them down on a new stick welder more than 25-percent below list price and it was THIS time of year as well.

Steve

 

[justanengineer]

The average used price w/out spool gun that I see is ~$750. Add $100 for the spool gun. Average = overpaying. If youre willing to wait a month or two, live in a fairly populated or industrialized region (read anywhere but the desert SW US) you should be able to find them for $400 w/out the gun.

MM210 is NOT a large welder. Its simply the first small professional welder. Smaller/"portable" = toy.

If you look at what something costs new, you likely will become starry eyed and it will skew your opinion of the value. Who cares what it cost new? You should care about what you can buy them for used, and not the average price, but what the price that 5% of the population sells them for. You will only buy once, so you only need to find one seller willing to make a deal.

 

[kc-steve]

Just, you might have inside info on used welders, but in my experience, the stick welder I mentioned above was only $75 above the used price offered on Craigslist. So the new one was a better deal in my opinion. Try and keep your options open.

Steve

 

[WR250F]

One of my nephews just bought a 210 without the spool gun. Like new condition, three months old (seller had receipt from Airgas dated early June) with several spools of wire, a box of clamps/magnets and other misc stuff for $800 cash.

He picked up a spool gun for it for $200 with some extras

Compared to new prices in this area, the above was a steal. Used prices are all over the map, with condition varying widely from one seller to the next.

He ran across the first unit that was in excellent shape and bought it.

He could have maybe done a little better if he had waited and kept looking, but he has an excellent rig and it was the cheapest he found for the condition.

He had also been looking at different welding supply houses as some of them (in this area at least) will offer some trade value on an older unit, and a few have some units that were never picked up from repair. Most of the ones he saw from suppliers were solid working machines, just a different machine than what he wanted.

 

[sberry]

The 210 is a good unit. They have a big fan club and hold their value fairly well. Its been replaced by the 212, I haven't ran the 212 but from the specs its claim to fame is a couple more auto gizmo's while actually dropping the top end performance which is where the 210 really shined. Very robust little unit. I wouldn't feel bad about giving a bit more for one in lightly used condition.

 

[May Pop]

My 210 was around 1400 about 4-5 years ago. I thought the spool gun was at least 400. So around 800-1000 is not out of line for the pair. A little more if in exellent shape would not be out of line. The 210 will last a long time and is not a toy.
Ron

 

[Nixon]

He is asking for $1500. That is a little too rich for my blood, if I could get it down to $1000 to maybe $1250 I might bite. It's got my interest because it's got minimal use and the Spool Gun is still new in the box, also he is including a helmet that I don't need. Didn't bother to ask about a bottle because I have two already.

Thank you guys for all the comments, they are really helping me out.

 

[sberry]

Best new deal in this class of machine is the IM230, about 1500 new street price. If I wasn't willing to spring for the 2500 for a 250 class its a heck of a deal and will for all practical purpose do the same job.

 

[justanengineer]

The eBay thing might be helpful but usually eBay is over priced.

I would ALSO go to a welding supplier and ask them what their bottom line is for a NEW one. I have talked them down on a new stick welder more than 25-percent below list price and it was THIS time of year as well.

Steve

You make a very good point Steve. Dealers do make quite a bit of money off of selling consumables so they may work with you quite a bit on price to get future business. Its also a good time to buy as construction season (and the associated welder sales) is coming to a close. I remember back in 08 when the housing bubble first popped Miller couldnt give away their products and were having some ridiculous deals in addition to the dealer specials.

Whatever you buy, just remember tool **** (pics) are always appreciated.

 

[ZRX61]

He is asking for $1500. That is a little too rich for my blood,

I don't think I paid that for mine when it was new... It's still "like new" & about 6 years old. Looking at the used prices mentioned here, I hope I never have to sell it

 

[sberry]

All the new machines are good,competition has really driven all the loser models out, They have really refined in to the new ones and they just plain work great. Even the "box store" Lincolns are good, great arc. There are no losers in the Hobart line up either, they ditched the IM210 and IM255 and went with the 230 which was a good move, as well as re-did the compacts and blue got rid of the last lemon with the 175DVI, which worked fine, was just heavy and big compared to the new compacts.

 

[blue dog]

I have seen the 210 on average on craigslist for $750 to $1000 depending on condition and age. It is a good machine, had one for many years and was very happy with it. If you are not in a hurry, machines come up on craigs for good prices, you must be patient.
I scored a just about brand new miller 250 for $1300.00 back a few months ago, the guy was hurting and needed the cash.

 

[theoldwizard1]

New 211 on fleabay - $1,044.77 Free shipping.

 

[gsport]

211 for $1044.77 isn't that good.... i bought a new one from Airco last year for $877.00

 

[csmitty]

I've seen them in good shape and bottle or two for 900-1000 here. Not bad IMO. Dad has one and I love it. Done many a Jeep projects with it and business stuff for him. A 252 would be awesome My buddy actually found one in the place he was co-oping at. It was a fairly new building (1-2yrs) and up on a mezzanine covered in dust. Was missing the cover and gun. Company he was working for said the contractor must have left it and he could have it. I still give him hell about it everytime I see it. So he just got a cover and gun and spent like $400.

 

[theoldwizard1]

Slightly off topic. What is differences between the 210, 211 and 212 ?

 

[Spectre32]

212 is the replacement for the 210.

 

[AZ_Catskinner]

Most of the 210's I've seen recently have gone for $800-$900 with the spool gun, $600-$700 without it.

 

[sberry]

The 211 is a compact Multi voltage unit, the 212 is the replacement for the 210, I haven't used a 212 yet but I might be partial to the 210 depending on what it came wit. If it came with spool gun etc, if I was switching from alum to steel all the time or was going to be burning hard on it the 210 is a bit more robust with a bit more top end. The 212 and the 210 are full sized chassis machines and will hold large spools of wire, big savings if the use is regular or high.

 

[traumadoc2b]

Any updates on welder prices? Looking at a well taken care of Millermatic 210, no spool gun. He's asking $1200.

 

[zkling]

Any updates on welder prices? Looking at a well taken care of Millermatic 210, no spool gun. He's asking $1200.

If it is in really good condition and ready to use with a spool of wire, regulator and regular mig gun I don't think that is too bad. Mine is very low hour and almost mint, I'd value it at around that; anything <$1K would be a good deal IMHO. Again condition dependent of course. What version of the 210 is it?

 

[traumadoc2b]

I'm looking to buy this for home and hobby use, potentially more "farm" use in the future.

Do you think I'd be better off and happier with the gently used Millermatic 210 for $1200 or a brand new Millermatic 211 with a spool gun for $1400, tax included?

 

[HAP]

FYI, not all spool guns are the same. The 210 takes a particular gun (3530) to work as intended "pull trigger" performance. Otherwise, the generic spool gun will work as well but requires some external component (not sure what) to operate as intended. The 3530 is hard to find for under $600.00.

R,
HAP

 

[HAP]

Sorry, I had the model # wrong, its 3035.

 

[Cope]

Any updates on welder prices? Looking at a well taken care of Millermatic 210, no spool gun. He's asking $1200.

I have an acquaintance in Oregon who just sold an 11-12 year old MM210 w/o spool gun for $750. It was low mileage and well maintained. I bought mine in 2004 NIB, and IIRC, they were in the $1400 range. They are good machines, but if you're looking in the 4 figure price range, The Hobart Ironman 230 is $1499,and is a 250 amp machine.

 

[Cope]

Sorry, I had the model # wrong, its 3035.

Correct, and HTP sells a clone for about 1/2 what Miller gets for theirs.

 

[pi_guy]

Paid 900 for a used 212 with full tank of gas & a couple of spools of wire.

 

[zkling]

I'm looking to buy this for home and hobby use, potentially more "farm" use in the future.

Do you think I'd be better off and happier with the gently used Millermatic 210 for $1200 or a brand new Millermatic 211 with a spool gun for $1400, tax included?

Well, not a real fair comparison, the 210 can weld ~2x what the 211 can and is more inline with the current 212, if you plan to push it that hard. If you don't need the duty cycle of the 210, the 211 with spool gun is a nice complete package.

 

[stage20]

friend of mine bought his 210 back in 07 or 08 new for 1200 from the retail (meaning no deals) welding shop. do they hold their value that much or is the new 212 cost that much more that its driving the price of used 210's ?

 

[sk farmer]

I'm looking to buy this for home and hobby use, potentially more "farm" use in the future.

Do you think I'd be better off and happier with the gently used Millermatic 210 for $1200 or a brand new Millermatic 211 with a spool gun for $1400, tax included?

i have a 211 and my welding shop advised me to buy the 211 over the 212. both have the autoset feature. why you might ask? versatility.

the 212 is a nice machine. good duty cycle and power, full size and larger wire spools. it has a longer gun and liner than the 211 and uses a larger/better spool gun and thermostat controlled fan

the 211. multi voltage (230 and 115), smaller size and similar power output as the 212. all specs are nearly the same as the 212 except for duty cycle. uses a cheaper spoolgun than the 212. constant on fan

if you plan on burning up some serious wire in a single location, 212.

if you want mobility, multi voltage and flux core capability the 211 is the one.

my biggest concern was duty cycle the 211. i have done some pretty large, heavy stuff and i have never had it overheat

would i like a bigger heavier welder? sure. but i have "never' been let down or felt underpowerd by the 211.

i did my homework on the 211 and compared it to the 140 and 180 class in red, blue and tan before i purchased it. i don't think any of them would have met my expectations for a welder. your experience may vary but if you have 230 volt power i would recommend nothing less. i know hobart has a new multi voltage unit but it only has the stepped output. for slightly more you can have the blue machine with full adjustability and autoset.

 

[Cannabinator]

so,

The average used price w/out spool gun that I see is ~$750. Add $100 for the spool gun. Average = overpaying. If youre willing to wait a month or two, live in a fairly populated or industrialized region (read anywhere but the desert SW US) you should be able to find them for $400 w/out the gun.

MM210 is NOT a large welder. Its simply the first small professional welder. Smaller/"portable" = toy.

If you look at what something costs new, you likely will become starry eyed and it will skew your opinion of the value. Who cares what it cost new? You should care about what you can buy them for used, and not the average price, but what the price that 5% of the population sells them for. You will only buy once, so you only need to find one seller willing to make a deal.

so, $1200, with gun, hoses, gauges ... basically just needing a bottle, is a fair price, for one that's in decent shape n known running with no problems... ? isn't too bad

 

[tx_mike]

Bringing an old thread back to life, I have been in the market for a mig welder for a while. never had one, need to learn as i have a few projects i want to do. I have an opportunity to buy a Miller matic 210 w/ gas bottle and have no idea what it may be worth. being an older machine the internet suggestions are all over the place. The machine is in good condition with light use on classic cars from a home garage. Any input or suggestions would be appreciated.

 

[finn]

Bringing an old thread back to life, I have been in the market for a mig welder for a while. never had one, need to learn as i have a few projects i want to do. I have an opportunity to buy a Miller matic 210 w/ gas bottle and have no idea what it may be worth. being an older machine the internet suggestions are all over the place. The machine is in good condition with light use on classic cars from a home garage. Any input or suggestions would be appreciated.

It’s been out of production for 20-25 years, so consider that.

I sold a 175 with CO2 bottle and a cheap HF cart two years ago for $500.

AI says $700-$1200, for a used 210, but that’s unreasonable since a new, with warranty, 211 PRO is as low as $1695 at Baker’s Gas.

Price a bottle online. Price varies with size, and make sure the included bottle is legit and can be refilled.

 

[tx_mike]

It’s been out of production for 20-25 years, so consider that.

I sold a 175 with CO2 bottle and a cheap HF cart two years ago for $500.

AI says $700-$1200, for a used 210, but that’s unreasonable since a new, with warranty, 211 PRO is as low as $1695 at Baker’s Gas.

Price a bottle online. Price varies with size, and make sure the included bottle is legit and can be refilled.

Thats what I had found. I have looked at a hobart 140 and know several folks that think highly of the hobart 140. Even being older, would the 210 be a better option than the 140?


My use is body panel welding on a triumph Gt6 and light hobby use.

 

[Wamsutta]

I'm going catch a lot of flack for this but if the machine doesn't have a digital readout, forget it.