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Mark in Indiana

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A shot in the dark from me: I have one that's 40+ years old. It showed a pressure reading that was too low. Mine has a brass plug that I can access the scale, spring and seals to clean and lubricate. So I just cleaned and oiled the seals. You may try to dump some ait tool oil in the chuck end and air plug end if the seals are dry.
 

Milton Shaw

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The used to have a replaceable cartridge inside the unit. My dad sold those and I remember them having the cartridge from about 40 years ago. Probably just a throw away now like everything else is. Try Milton's website and see if they have any parts available to rebuild them.
 

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interesting. i have the same gauge, probably 30 years old. guess i need to check its accuracy. problem is it's the nicest gauge i have and don't trust the others!. they make pencil gauges as well to the tune of about 8 bucks that i have been meaning to buy.
 

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The used to have a replaceable cartridge inside the unit. My dad sold those and I remember them having the cartridge from about 40 years ago. Probably just a throw away now like everything else is. Try Milton's website and see if they have any parts available to rebuild them.

They still sell the cartridges, you can download their catalog on their website to get the part number.
 

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My favorite tire gauge too.
I grew up with one in the garage for our bicycles back in the 60's.
Tried and true...bought my new one in 2002
The link for their catalog.... https://nebula.wsimg.com/2c8c2c6b3e...F9A89657DD9338EBF&disposition=0&alloworigin=1

Couldn't see the page for a rebuild kit???

Curious...I do have a gauge and adjustable pressure knob on my compressor, I suppose I could check the calibration with that and maybe a few pen gauges I have to see how far off it is.
 

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My favorite tire gauge too.
I grew up with one in the garage for our bicycles back in the 60's.
Tried and true...bought my new one in 2002
The link for their catalog.... https://nebula.wsimg.com/2c8c2c6b3e...F9A89657DD9338EBF&disposition=0&alloworigin=1

Couldn't see the page for a rebuild kit???

Curious...I do have a gauge and adjustable pressure knob on my compressor, I suppose I could check the calibration with that and maybe a few pen gauges I have to see how far off it is.

They have them placed near the gauges they are meant for. Here is a screenshot from the catalog.

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http://www.northerntool.com/shop/to...ICcefQMllOyPyhphzCrKwMFtID2XBRzxKgaAmIe8P8HAQ

I have one of these and I noticed its about 6 psi off compared to several other gauges I tried.
Is there a way to open these up and adjust the calibration?

You don't need to buy any parts.

Brass screw, remove it, under that is a gasket and another brass screw which retains the scale/cartridge. That is the calibration screw, if memory serves you want to tighten it to reduce pressure readings. For 6PSI i'd go roughly a full turn. Then just put the top screw back in and tighten it down and check your reading. Use a dab of Loctite or silicone on said top screw if you want to prevent it from moving in the future.
 
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Skin is right, take it apart, clean it out, put it back together. I had to adjust mine twice before I was happy. Spot on now. Looked for a old Milton for years before finding one at a garage sale for 5 bucks.
 

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Great thread! And speaking of threads, I had a bone to pick with my two Milton inflators, one I bought new 30 years ago, and another that is about 10 years older than that one.

Both read about 5 PSI off, where if the inflator reads 40 psi, there is really only about 35 psi in the tire. I have gotten by over the decades by just "overfilling" via the inflator gauge, and checking with an independent dial sweep gauge.

I had no idea until reading Skin's post above that the inflator gauges were tunable. Thanks Skin! And thanks Swamp Cat for posting your confirmation, and about doing it twice. And thanks Mr. Pretty for posting the catalog page, because those red letters identifying 3/8 fine (24) thread explains why I couldn't thread any "normal" air chuck foots on the end of the hard pipe of the Milton inflator.

And now about those 3/8-24 threads: My inflators had dual foot tips, but they were not the straight foot kind. The back angles of the angled foot and straight foot are the same, but the straight foot (that meets OSHA regs per the catalog page above) kind has the forward valve inline with the hard pipe, rather than offset and in line with the back angled foot.

The tip that is inline with the back angle foot is cheaper to produce, as there is one part that bounces back and forth between two orings, and that's it. The straight foot kind, on the other hand, has to have two separate valve ends and oring set ups, since the forward foot is not inline with the back foot, and is rather in line with the hard pipe.

All of that gobbledy gook is to say that on both of my "mighty" Milton inflators, besides the pressure gauge reading being inaccurate... the angled feet also failed. The would leak air as soon as pressure was applied to the inflator. I put up with this irritation for years also, until the leaks began making it impossible to fill high volume, high pressure truck tires (over 95 psi). I decided to spend a couple of bucks to replace the heads with the straight foot style. Well, that couple of bucks turned into an entire tool box drawer full of inflator feet.

I think I stopped in every truck stop in the western United States... from Yellowstone to the Pacific Ocean, Canada to Mexico, I stopped at Pilot, Flying J, TA, Petro, Loves, and random holes on the side of the road... looking for that odd ball inflator that would thread onto my Miltons. Even Fleetpride. Anyway, long story short, all of the other inflator feet threaded the same. But not onto the Miltons.

I've got to get a better set of thread gauges rather than the cheesy stampings that come with the cheesy tap and dies sets that I have. My good taps and good dies I can only afford to buy one at a time, on a per project basis. So I had no basis for determining exactly what kind of thread the Milton's use. (Somehow, the internet didn't occur to me.)

When my local hardware store wiped out all of their Milton inventory, I assumed that Milton went bye bye, like many a former US manufacturer has in our Alibaba world. I now realize that Milton is still in business as "Milton Industries" and it looks like one can still get parts from them. I did not know that when I decided to run the proprietary Milton swivel hard pipes through a die to "correct" the threads in the inflator foot end to properly engage with every other inflator head in the industry that I found (except Milton).

I post this story hoping that it will help a future searcher. Fortunately, the old school Milton hard pipes are very thick walled (compared to modern imported inflator hard pipes), so my "correction" of the threads did not appear to compromise the integrity and pressure rating of the tubing. I might have preferred to keep everything "Milton", but I discovered another advantage of rolling my own threads to match the common industry standard (NPT)...

I could extend the hard pipe to a more usable length for inflating the inside dual rear wheel. Here's a photo of the hard pipe extensions I added to the Milton inflators, in addition the straight feet:

View media item 54520
 

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After adjustment, is the inflator accurate?

Great thread! And speaking of threads, I had a bone to pick with my two Milton inflators, one I bought new 30 years ago, and another that is about 10 years older than that one.

Both read about 5 PSI off, where if the inflator reads 40 psi, there is really only about 35 psi in the tire. I have gotten by over the decades by just "overfilling" via the inflator gauge, and checking with an independent dial sweep gauge.

I had no idea until reading Skin's post above that the inflator gauges were tunable. Thanks Skin! And thanks Swamp Cat for posting your confirmation, and about doing it twice. And thanks Mr. Pretty for posting the catalog page, because those red letters identifying 3/8 fine (24) thread explains why I couldn't thread any "normal" air chuck foots on the end of the hard pipe of the Milton inflator.


And now about those 3/8-24 threads: My inflators had dual foot tips, but they were not the straight foot kind. The back angles of the angled foot and straight foot are the same, but the straight foot (that meets OSHA regs per the catalog page above) kind has the forward valve inline with the hard pipe, rather than offset and in line with the back angled foot.

The tip that is inline with the back angle foot is cheaper to produce, as there is one part that bounces back and forth between two orings, and that's it. The straight foot kind, on the other hand, has to have two separate valve ends and oring set ups, since the forward foot is not inline with the back foot, and is rather in line with the hard pipe.

All of that gobbledy gook is to say that on both of my "mighty" Milton inflators, besides the pressure gauge reading being inaccurate... the angled feet also failed. The would leak air as soon as pressure was applied to the inflator. I put up with this irritation for years also, until the leaks began making it impossible to fill high volume, high pressure truck tires (over 95 psi). I decided to spend a couple of bucks to replace the heads with the straight foot style. Well, that couple of bucks turned into an entire tool box drawer full of inflator feet.

I think I stopped in every truck stop in the western United States... from Yellowstone to the Pacific Ocean, Canada to Mexico, I stopped at Pilot, Flying J, TA, Petro, Loves, and random holes on the side of the road... looking for that odd ball inflator that would thread onto my Miltons. Even Fleetpride. Anyway, long story short, all of the other inflator feet threaded the same. But not onto the Miltons.

I've got to get a better set of thread gauges rather than the cheesy stampings that come with the cheesy tap and dies sets that I have. My good taps and good dies I can only afford to buy one at a time, on a per project basis. So I had no basis for determining exactly what kind of thread the Milton's use. (Somehow, the internet didn't occur to me.)

When my local hardware store wiped out all of their Milton inventory, I assumed that Milton went bye bye, like many a former US manufacturer has in our Alibaba world. I now realize that Milton is still in business as "Milton Industries" and it looks like one can still get parts from them. I did not know that when I decided to run the proprietary Milton swivel hard pipes through a die to "correct" the threads in the inflator foot end to properly engage with every other inflator head in the industry that I found (except Milton).

I post this story hoping that it will help a future searcher. Fortunately, the old school Milton hard pipes are very thick walled (compared to modern imported inflator hard pipes), so my "correction" of the threads did not appear to compromise the integrity and pressure rating of the tubing. I might have preferred to keep everything "Milton", but I discovered another advantage of rolling my own threads to match the common industry standard (NPT)...

I could extend the hard pipe to a more usable length for inflating the inside dual rear wheel. Here's a photo of the hard pipe extensions I added to the Milton inflators, in addition the straight feet:

View media item 54520
 

ambenz

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Well, my gauge is reading really off...at 30psi, she reads 50psi...so, I am gonna take her apart and see if I can tune it as recommended in this thread.

Here she is hanging off my reel ....
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...if I get some energy tonight, I go out to the garage and fiddle with it.
 

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