Milwaukee Fails

[dnschmidt]

What do you mean by obsolete? As in no longer made or because it uses 18650s? AFAIK they aren't discontinued.

Sure, the 21700 packs perform better in tools that benefit from them but I still prefer to use 5.0s. I hate that the 21700 packs are longer toward the front. For some tools like impact guns the longer length in the front gets in the way sometimes.

6.0HO is the same case size as the 8.0 so I bought 8.0. Too bulky to use with a drill, impact driver, or impact guns IMO. That was before TTC did a test reporting that the 6.0 performs better than the 8.0, doesn't matter for my needs. I do have a couple of the 3.0HO, lighter weight is nice but again has the stick out in the front.

Obsolete meaning older technology. I use the 3.0 compacts on the smaller tools. The slightly bigger size I haven't found to be an issue on my compact or mid-torque impacts. I agree that the 6.0 and the 8.0 are only to be used on power hungry tools like the circular saw.

 

[ecotec]

I think that the cordless M18 heat gun is worth it, but barely. It is good for small things like heat shrink.

Huge jobs like removing vinyl from a large truck… you are going to need a corded model, or three. I bought my corded Milwaukee for $3.

I would definitely be interested in seeing how the cordless versions of heat guns evolve.

 

[NC Fabricator25]

See how long this thread lasts, when they had their epic cost reduction failure to the planetary gear carrier on the 2767 the thread was quickly shut down. I normally wouldn't throw stones, as I've been on the wrong side of a design change before, but that one was so clearly never vetted that they deserve a little grief over it, it only lasted 82 cycles on our life tester.

I recall that thread, and being amazed at the amount of passion, to be polite, exhibited by folks defending the brand, and/or taking issue with posters who were rightfully complaining about the move to cheapen the mechanism. I’ve got yellow, red, and blue brands (Bosch, not Makita) and they’ve all seemed really good to me, but if any of them made a bad corporate decision and produced a crappy product I’d happily call them out.

I’ve never had a battery fail from any of the brands I own, I’ll keep my fingers crossed.

 

[autobon7]

M12™ Rotary Tool 2460-20. Sent back twice for repair with little/light use. NOT recommended.​

 

[danski0224]

I think that the cordless M18 heat gun is worth it, but barely. It is good for small things like heat shrink.

Dollars to donuts, I'd bet that electricians applying heat shrink is THE target market for that tool.

 

[sparky 1971]

Dollars to donuts, I'd bet that electricians applying heat shrink is THE target market for that tool.

I tried it on the HD heat shrink but gave up and got out the torch. The only thing that I've found it useful for is melting ice off the mirrors of my service truck. It also makes a decent hand warmer.

 

[dnschmidt]

The M18 heat gun is a turd. The DeWalt version is much superior and that's from a Milwaukee fanboy. If you're serious a Steiner corded is the only way to fly.

 

[danski0224]

I tried it on the HD heat shrink but gave up and got out the torch. The only thing that I've found it useful for is melting ice off the mirrors of my service truck. It also makes a decent hand warmer.

Interesting. I don't actually own one, just saw a video of it being used on shrink wrap.

It could never take the place of a corded model- I would not expect the cordless one to be anything like that.

 

[KnurledNut]

HD12.0 that was under a year old

Saw one lightly used die at < 6 months...

 

[gmcgeo]

I have used Milwaukee for years, i have a good amount of their tools.

Recently though, i stop buying them. Not to Fails "well tool fails".
It has to do with prices of the product. I was looking to purchase a router, and wanted their brand router. i almost bought the tool, then was looking at buying the accessories for the router, and OMG was it super expensive to purchase.

I ended up with a Bosch router in a kit for 1/2 the price.

I think the Fail is the amount of money they think they can charge.

I would fork out that kind of money on a festool before i will on Milwaukee

 

[dnschmidt]

I have used Milwaukee for years, i have a good amount of their tools.

Recently though, i stop buying them. Not to Fails "well tool fails".
It has to do with prices of the product. I was looking to purchase a router, and wanted their brand router. i almost bought the tool, then was looking at buying the accessories for the router, and OMG was it super expensive to purchase.

I ended up with a Bosch router in a kit for 1/2 the price.

I think the Fail is the amount of money they think they can charge.

I would fork out that kind of money on a festool before i will on Milwaukee

Are you comparing apples to apples or apples too oranges? If you're looking at CORDLESS routers compared to CORDLESS routers Milwaukee is in the same ballpark as Makita, Bosch and DeWalt. If you're comparing corded routers to cordless routers that's not a fair comparison as the corded are significantly cheaper.

 

[gmcgeo]

Are you comparing apples to apples or apples too oranges? If you're looking at CORDLESS routers compared to CORDLESS routers Milwaukee is in the same ballpark as Makita, Bosch and DeWalt. If you're comparing corded routers to cordless routers that's not a fair comparison as the corded are significantly cheaper.

I was comparing the accessories. as stated in my comment.

 

[dchawk81]

I was comparing the accessories. as stated in my comment.

But then you said the router was half the price.

 

[gmcgeo]

But then you said the router was half the price.

It was, in a kit with the accessories.

 

[American Locomotive]

It amazes me that Milwaukee's M18 platform managed to get off the ground at all with how horrible the chucks were in the first couple generation of M18 drills. Straight trash.

 

[dchawk81]

It was, in a kit with the accessories.

So two kits with accessories? Or the Milwaukee was tool only plus separate accessories?

Kinda matters.

 

[jpaw]

It definitely does.

I looked at the track saw but after seeing the price of the tracks my new saw won't be red... Their regular retail pricing is getting to be a little rich for my blood.

 

[dchawk81]

It definitely does.

I looked at the track saw but after seeing the price of the tracks my new saw won't be red... Their regular retail pricing is getting to be a little rich for my blood.

I go for the deals. My 2767 was part of a grease gun kit with 2 batteries and a charger for right around what the 2767 two battery battery kit was going for (you get a 5.0 and a 2.5 and a grease gun instead of 2 5.0 and no grease gun), and then I got the 2864 tool only with a free battery promo.

That's the extent of my Milwaukee so far. I like the stuff for the most part but I'm not going to buy the underwear.

 

[jpaw]

I go for the deals. My 2767 was part of a grease gun kit with 2 batteries and a charger for right around what the 2767 two battery battery kit was going for (you get a 5.0 and a 2.5 and a grease gun instead of 2 5.0 and no grease gun), and then I got the 2864 tool only with a free battery promo.

That's the extent of my Milwaukee so far. I like the stuff for the most part but I'm not going to buy the underwear.

I definitely shop the deals and that is the only way I will be adding to my Milwaukee collection. Their retail pricing has gotten out of hand.
I have plenty of Makita batteries so I have options there. IMHO the Makita tools made in Japan are superior to most other cordless tools but they also cost more than the others in most cases.

 

[dchawk81]

I definitely shop the deals and that is the only way I will be adding to my Milwaukee collection. Their retail pricing has gotten out of hand.
I have plenty of Makita batteries so I have options there. IMHO the Makita tools made in Japan are superior to most other cordless tools but they also cost more than the others in most cases.

Agreed. Platform doesn't mean as much to me as some folks. The chargers are cheap enough and can be in a kit with the first tool.

I like to have a 1:1 parity between tools and batteries anyway so I'll usually buy tool only if I already have an "extra" battery. I don't like the idea of having 1-2 batteries for 8 tools for example.

IOW if I have my battery parity, and another tool would require another battery, I'm looking around first.

 

[finn]

It amazes me that Milwaukee's M18 platform managed to get off the ground at all with how horrible the chucks were in the first couple generation of M18 drills. Straight trash.

My BIL always raises his eyebrows whenever I get a new Milwaukee tool. (I have Dewalt, Milwaukee, and Bosch, and would buy any of those brands again).

I finally asked him why he’s seemingly cold towards the Milwaukee brand.. seems he’s still unhappy because of his experience with a Milwaukee drill back in the days of the bum chucks. Guess that qualifies as a fail.

 

[dnschmidt]

It definitely does.

I looked at the track saw but after seeing the price of the tracks my new saw won't be red... Their regular retail pricing is getting to be a little rich for my blood.

The Milwaukee track saw can use Festool, Makita and I believe DeWalt tracks as well as Milwaukee's. I've been told it can't use Bosch's. They are all about the same price so what's so different about Milwaukee's pricing?

 

[pago cruiser]

Model 5268-21, 1 1/8" SDS-Plus Rotary Hammer.
Used it to drill quantity 21 10"deep by x 3/4" holes for setting sill plate anchor bolts and seismic hardware with the Milwaukee bit.
On the 22nd hole I hit rebar; stopped the drill from going any further, but it did not bind.

Picked up a 3/4" Diablo rebar cutter bit. The bit was working, but after about 1/2" of hard progress (I thought I was almost through) the drill started smoking. Stopped drilling and set it aside. Was still smoking, and getting warmer, even though it was unplugged. 10 minutes later it was still hot. By now it was about 10 pm, and I needed to get to bed. Took it outside and set it on the pavement 20 feet from the house in case it burst into flame.

Came back in the morning; it had not burst into flames. But it smells like it. Plugged it in, and it drilled the final hole I needed to get done - without rebar, no problems. I'm still going to try and exchange it; this should last longer than 22 holes in concrete, even if one was cutting rebar. If I can find the &^%$# receipt.

 

[jpaw]

The Milwaukee track saw can use Festool, Makita and I believe DeWalt tracks as well as Milwaukee's. I've been told it can't use Bosch's. They are all about the same price so what's so different about Milwaukee's pricing?

During my quick research the only tracks costing more than Milwaukee were Festool which is to be expected and Bosch. While all of them appear to have more accessories available than Milwaukee.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of Milwaukee power tools I'm just not willing to pay the premium for most of their tools at imo inflated retail prices.
Especially when most of the other manufacturers have stepped up their 12v offerings.

Sorry to say that I am not a brand loyalist. I try to buy what I feel is the best tool for my needs and budget.

 

[dnschmidt]

During my quick research the only tracks costing more than Milwaukee were Festool which is to be expected and Bosch. While all of them appear to have more accessories available than Milwaukee.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of Milwaukee power tools I'm just not willing to pay the premium for most of their tools at imo inflated retail prices.
Especially when most of the other manufacturers have stepped up their 12v offerings.

Sorry to say that I am not a brand loyalist. I try to buy what I feel is the best tool for my needs and budget.

OK, so all reviews I've seen to date rate the Milwaukee track saw as being superior to the others, which pisses me off since I own the Makita 18X2 36 volt saw with a couple of Festool fanatics hanging on, so it's apparently the best saw. That stated what's preventing you from buying the Milwaukee saw and using Makita tracks? There are other track options as well for example: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07RF7NYDL/?tag=atomicindus08-20 which are compatible or at least should be as they are specified for Makita and Festool saws. I'm not a brand loyalist either as I mix and match the best tool for the job, admittedly I normally don't care about price. I'm considering the Milwaukee saw since it's now considered the best and dumping my Makita which I didn't know wasn't as good until 95% of reviewers told me it wasn't. I have an UNLIMITED number of Milwaukee batteries and all of the Makita tracks so all I need would be the saw itself.

 

[danski0224]

That's the extent of my Milwaukee so far. I like the stuff for the most part but I'm not going to buy the underwear.

You're missing out...

 

[purplezr2]

My first M12 Right angle die grinder was a flop. With a 2 inch roloc pad it would cut out no matter the size of the battery.

Returned it. Recently purchased one at a pawnshop in a group of tools for cheap. Unit appeared new and came with a 2.5HO battery.

I still have the same roloc pad in the drawer, slapped it on, this one works great. Guess the first one was a dud.

 

[dnschmidt]

My first M12 Right angle die grinder was a flop. With a 2 inch roloc pad it would cut out not matter the size of the battery.

Returned it. Recently purchased one at a pawnshop in a group of tools for cheap. Unit appeared new and came with a 2.5HO battery.

I still have the same roloc pad in the drawer, slapped it on, this one works great. Guess the first one was a dud.

Not likely, Milwaukee never tells you the complete story. The right angle grinder is one of their best and top selling tools. Trouble is many people think that they can power the thing with small low capacity (1.5 or 2.0) M12 battery which I can tell you doesn't work. They often sell the tool with these underpowered batteries when they know they don't work. The straight M12 die grinder is even worse than the right angle with these small batteries. Put a 6.0 or better yet a 5.5 on it and it works a treat.

 

[purplezr2]

My first M12 Right angle die grinder was a flop. With a 2 inch roloc pad it would cut out no matter the size of the battery.

Returned it. Recently purchased one at a pawnshop in a group of tools for cheap. Unit appeared new and came with a 2.5HO battery.

I still have the same roloc pad in the drawer, slapped it on, this one works great. Guess the first one was a dud.

Not likely, Milwaukee never tells you the complete story. The right angle grinder is one of their best and top selling tools. Trouble is many people think that they can power the thing with small low capacity (1.5 or 2.0) M12 battery which I can tell you doesn't work. They often sell the tool with these underpowered batteries when they know they don't work. The straight M12 die grinder is even worse than the right angle with these small batteries. Put a 6.0 or better yet a 5.5 on it and it works a treat.

Made it bold so you could read it easier.....

Also the one I have runs on a 2.0 with no issues. Like I said, running the exact same roloc pad and mandrel.

 

[dnschmidt]

Made it bold so you could read it easier.....

Also the one I have runs on a 2.0 with no issues. Like I said, running the exact same roloc pad and mandrel.

If you still have the first one send it into Milwaukee. This tool hasn't been out for five years so it still has to be under warrantee. They will repair or replace it for no charge. Just call 1-800-SAWDUST and the nice customer service person will Email you a shipping label. Take it to any FedEx drop off place and you're good to go.

 

[billford]

Have 3 of these aaa flashlights,

Penlight | Milwaukee Tool

MILWAUKEE® Penlight delivers 100 Lumens of TRUEVIEW™ High Definition Output and designed with a protective rubber bite zone.

www.milwaukeetool.ca

They all broke in the exact same area near the switch. They all have a lifetime warranty, so I took them to the official Milwaukee repair center. They said it's not warrantable because is due to wear and tear.

Never bought another milwaukee product again. Their warranty doesn't mean anything to me.

 

[jonesg]

I can't remember what I was doing, but I do remember I wasn't pushing very hard.
I have recently switched over to Dewalt.

I'd say that drill fell off a ladder onto concrete.

 

[kppolich]

2nd tank, this one is brand new out of the box is leaking for the sprayer. More like a running faucet instead of a leak IMO.
My god it's frustrating.

 

[Odd-job]

Here's my list of turds (warranty claims):

• 9.0 batteries - going out of balance X 3 or 4
• m12 original 3/8 ratchet - broken head
• M18 transfer pump - no start - got good use out of this so maybe not a turd
• M18 compressor - no start
• M18 single battery power supply

Other issues:

• String trimmer v1 - intermittent trigger issues
• m18 hedge trimmer - intermittent trigger issues
• m18 fan - screws holding blade backed out and rattled

I think that's it. Considering the complexity and abuse I put some of my tools through I wouldn't consider it all that bad. Have been buying Milwaukee for almost 10 years now...

 

[bcradio]

See how long this thread lasts, when they had their epic cost reduction failure to the planetary gear carrier on the 2767 the thread was quickly shut down. I normally wouldn't throw stones, as I've been on the wrong side of a design change before, but that one was so clearly never vetted that they deserve a little grief over it, it only lasted 82 cycles on our life tester.

What happened with this? I hadn't heard

 

[Marlin]

What happened with this? I hadn't heard

 

[mjdarg]

2nd tank, this one is brand new out of the box is leaking for the sprayer. More like a running faucet instead of a leak IMO.
My god it's frustrating.

I saw the M18 backpack sprayers at the NHL Stadium Series here in Raleigh this year. I was interested until I saw all of the 1 star reviews talking about cracked tanks. I couldn't believe they were so poor.


https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/2820-21PS

 

[bcradio]

Thank you sir! I guess I lucked out getting a H96A

 

[scooby074]

Thank you sir! I guess I lucked out getting a H96A

"A " models are whats currently being sold again. The B's were pulled super fast and quick replacement A models sent out to those who had issues. I had my B replaced when it was defective with a brand new A.

Rumor is there is a C model coming soon. Im hoping that Milwaukee did their homework a bit better this time.

 

[darkzero]

Rumor is gen3 High Torque 2967 is coming. Tri-LEDs & mo powa.