Milwaukee M12/M18 Wish List?

[Barnabas]

M18 tire inflator. I use the Craftsman one now.

 

[kblee27]

-> M12 right angle impact driver 1/4" or 3/8" square drive, with min 500 in-lb torque.

Right now they only have it with 1/4" hex drive. A lot of my sockets are square drive, I don't want to keep adding adapters.

 

[lightning02]

m12 1/4in impact that's smaller.

m12 cheaper batteries.

m12 drill that's smaller and more powerful.

other wise they have everything else i need covered well.

 

[1233user]

M18 Fuel small chain saw
M12 under hood light. The kind with spring loaded arms that clamp across the bottom of a hood and light up the whole engine compartment.

 

[Dberglind]

I've been asking for a M18 air hammer equivalent, that would be great for automotive and for industrial applications to.

Another would be a take off of their Force Logic used for powering pullers.

And a M12 powered electric filet knife.

TheGrooveking

Just found this thread to suggest the filet knife as well. I was ice fishing this weekend, and thought about it. I think it would be a BIG seller. Can someone with some Milwaukee connections make this happen please.

 

[Teenager with old tools]

M12 meat tenderizer. M12 whisk.


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[cheechi]

I have 8" Irwin's, 8" Milwaukee's, and a set from TSC masterforce...? The problem isn't the dykes, it's the number of cuts. I use 1"x2" 14ga (48"x100' roll) welded wire for the sides and top, 1/2"x1" for the bottom.

Knipex mini bolt cutters.

Their take on the Bosch IDH182 hybrid impact driver/wrench. It seems like the Bosch has some compromises I wouldn't care for.

Tell me about the compromises. I have one and haven't used it really heavily yet but I have used it enough I can probably answer any questions you have.

 

[Voi]

Tell me about the compromises. I have one and haven't used it really heavily yet but I have used it enough I can probably answer any questions you have.

I don't recall off the top of my head. It was in an online review. I'll try to find it and post it back. Would love to hear your thoughts on the review.

 

[DFB]

That Bosch Hybrid is a handy design and sometimes think I would like to have seen a Milwaukee wrench with such a feature. Nobody else does it so must be Bosch patent? IMO if there is any "compromising" to be found with the tool I would say it would that the max torque rating is a bit low for a direct comparison to "some" 1/2" sq. anvil drive compact wrenches but is still right in line with most all of the 18v impact 1/4' hex drivers on the market. And 3 power modes are great to have. And I have seen enough videos that prove many impact drivers can do wheel lugnut removal in different situations

I wouldn't mind owning that for my work (or something similar in red ) and I did almost purchase that Bosch one once.

 

[Voi]

Their take on the Bosch IDH182 hybrid impact driver/wrench. It seems like the Bosch has some compromises I wouldn't care for.

Tell me about the compromises. I have one and haven't used it really heavily yet but I have used it enough I can probably answer any questions you have.

That Bosch Hybrid is a handy design and sometimes think I would like to have seen a Milwaukee wrench with such a feature. Nobody else does it so must be Bosch patent? IMO if there is any "compromising" to be found with the tool I would say it would that the max torque rating is a bit low for a direct comparison to "some" 1/2" sq. anvil drive compact wrenches but is still right in line with most all of the 18v impact 1/4' hex drivers on the market. And 3 power modes are great to have.

Here is one of the reviews I read that made me think this wasn't for me.

https://www.hingmy.com/site/article.php?Bosch-IDH182-Review

My main concern was when he said it needed an adapter for "short bits". But I see later he qualified that by saying bits 1" or shorter. That's not a concern for me. If I can use 2" or longer power groove bits I'm fine with that.

He also mentions some issues with the compression ring retention. In this review he only seems to be comparing it to the tradeoffs of a pin retention system but in another review I feel like the author specifically said he felt the compression ring on this Bosch wasn't as good as similar retention systems on other cordless impact wrenches. Unfortunately I cannot find that review.

So I would appreciate your comments on socket retention and also what the author says about the trigger and having the same torque in all three speeds.

I understand needing the 1/2" anvil so there's enough meat around the 1/4" hex receiver and then not really having the power of a 1/2" impact. Only I can figure out if that will work for me.

Otherwise, he darn near describes me as the ideal user. I seem to switch between hex bits and socket adapters with my driver quite often but don't do a lot of heavy automotive work. It would be nice if it would remove lugs on our side by side but not as much of a concern if it won't remove lugs from our Tundra.

 

[DFB]

Here is one of the reviews I read that made me think this wasn't for me.

https://www.hingmy.com/site/article.php?Bosch-IDH182-Review

My main concern was when he said it needed an adapter for "short bits". But I see later he qualified that by saying bits 1" or shorter. That's not a concern for me. If I can use 2" or longer power groove bits I'm fine with that.

He also mentions some issues with the compression ring retention. In this review he only seems to be comparing it to the tradeoffs of a pin retention system but in another review I feel like the author specifically said he felt the compression ring on this Bosch wasn't as good as similar retention systems on other cordless impact wrenches. Unfortunately I cannot find that review.

So I would appreciate your comments on socket retention and also what the author says about the trigger and having the same torque in all three speeds.

I understand needing the 1/2" anvil so there's enough meat around the 1/4" hex receiver and then not really having the power of a 1/2" impact. Only I can figure out if that will work for me.

Otherwise, he darn near describes me as the ideal user. I seem to switch between hex bits and socket adapters with my driver quite often but don't do a lot of heavy automotive work. It would be nice if it would remove lugs on our side by side but not as much of a concern if it won't remove lugs from our Tundra.

Well I will just weigh in quickly on this

IMO best I can tell most people don't often use short bits directly in the chuck. and I assume we are simply talking 1 inch bits with a small line on them here. I personally do use some that way to countersink sheetrock screws using my 2462 impact driver but pretty much is the only time. Other than that one application I always use a bit holder or 2" or longer bits.

Pin retention on a driver like this I would prefer the ring for fast and easy tool less socket changes over a pin style. Locking style pins are the norm for overhead use and most mechanics probably wouldn't want one. You have to insert something like small screwdriver. needle nose plier point or even a piece of metal rod to depress the pin enough to remove the socket. I have a ball pin retention half inch impact, Milwaukee's 2665B its a modified pin more tapered at the end and supposedly tool less removal but with most impact sockets I find have to manually release it unless I want to fight it with long enough IMO PITA. Maybe hog rings can vary in tightness of fit I really couldn't say, all of mine seem to be the same.

Triggers feel is kind of relative and you really will have try it to know for sure. I could say the some of my current Milwaukee's don't have as fine a trigger finesse as some of my older Makita tools but overall it really doesn't bother me and unless the tool is VS only having the different electronic RPM/torque modes should help compensate for a certain lack of fine gradual ramp up IMO

Now as for the torque question the Bosch website does shows different torque/rpm/bpm for each mode and I'm believing most all of these electronic switched tools all operate in same way sans mechanical gear reduction like a drill? And if someone knows more about that hopefully they will say.

Torque 0-1,650 / 0-900 / 0-400
RPM 0-2,800 / 0-2,000 / 0-1,300
BPM 0-3,200 / 0-2,600 / 0-1,100

Obviously it is a fairly expensive setup so could understand apprehension from a review where they seemingly find fault. I read the whole piece it was a good overall review but felt some of the critcism of it was simply nitpicking. I don't think there is perfect tool each has ups and downs

 

[Voi]

Pin retention on a driver like this I would prefer the ring for fast and easy tool less socket changes over a pin style. Locking style pins are the norm for overhead use and most mechanics probably wouldn't want one.

Obviously it is a fairly expensive setup...

Thanks for the reply. I definitely want a friction/compression ring. I'm just curious if anyone thinks the one on this Bosch hybrid is below par somehow. I don't think it would be the deciding factor but I recall reading about it in another review.

And yes, it is expensive. But given I'm considering the M12 Fuel driver and M18 Fuel compact 3/8" it's a bargain in comparison.

 

[cheechi]

I've only put one socket on mine so far. There was nothing thrilling to report, it just worked.

The M12 (fuel and non fluel) you can just put the bit into the driver. With both my Bosch 18v (IDS181 I think, and this) you need to pull the ring in order to seat the bit. I mean it's not a big deal but messes with my muscle memory.

I have found so far driving screws, even 6" ledger lok I have found max power is too much. I have basically kept it on lowest power since. lowest power gives you pretty great trigger control. not like an air wrench but it's not an on/off either.

 

[DFB]

COP Tool also included the Bosch Socket Ready Impact in a recent comparison review both written and video It is fairly recent less than 6 months old but this is the first time I became aware of it. Maybe it's been seen by some others already but just thought I share it


http://www.coptool.com/brushless-18...-2016-bosch-vs-dewalt-vs-makita-vs-milwaukee/

 

[BK13]

The Euros get an M12 Fuel 1/2" impact wrench. I want...

 

[Ktmrider83]

I'll take one of these with 200 ft lbs.

 

[danski0224]

That Bosch Hybrid is a handy design and sometimes think I would like to have seen a Milwaukee wrench with such a feature.

An employer provided one of these impact drills and I did like the combo chuck feature. The tool did seem underpowered compared to the 18V Fuel Milwaukee 1/4 hex impact drills.

For additional Milwaukee tools, I'd like to see-

A green beam laser like the DeWalt DW089LG

An impact drill that has a removable chucks like the Festool T15, hopefully using the business end of the Surge driver as a base.

 

[Voi]

COP Tool also included the Bosch Socket Ready Impact in a recent comparison review both written and video It is fairly recent less than 6 months old but this is the first time I became aware of it. Maybe it's been seen by some others already but just thought I share it


http://www.coptool.com/brushless-18...-2016-bosch-vs-dewalt-vs-makita-vs-milwaukee/

I hadn't seen that. Thanks for posting.

From the short video shots it looked like they only tested tightening power. I would've been curious to see loosening tested as well.

Otherwise, it appears all three of the other brushless drivers are more powerful than the Bosch, even when compared with an adapter. And they'd also be shorter with an adapter and socket vs the Bosch with just a socket.

So unless the Bosch has some serious power biased towards breaking bolts it seems like the only advantage is not having to keep track of and breaking adapters.

 

[DFB]

It is getting the point that some of these impact drivers are so powerful that they will often break 1/4 hex socket adapters and snap screws off when they start to bind up.

Have to wonder if with all the latest torque increases for tools of this nature have they reached their peak



Overall Bosch does have great tools though and some cool features other don't have like their wireless charging system

 

[Ign]

It is getting the point that some of these impact drivers are so powerful that they will often break 1/4 hex socket adapters and snap screws off when they start to bind up.

Have to wonder if with all the latest torque increases for tools of this nature have they reached their peak



Overall Bosch does have great tools though and some cool features other don't have like their wireless charging system

This has been my argument for awhile. Impacts are nearing as powerful as they realistically need to be except maybe in 3/4" and 1" drive sizes..... and retailers like Milwaukee don't want to focus on that too much 'cause sales of those drive sizes are and always will be relatively low.

Let's say they continue to climb and you can get a true 2000 ft lbs out of a 1/2" impact..........you're just gonna snap 80% of what you'd use a 1/2" impact on if it puts up a fight. And I'm not sure they can make 1/2" sq anvils hold together much above present numbers. The IR2135 suffered from this when it was first released and they quickly got a reputation for breaking anvils even though in reality it was a low percentage.

Now we need to start working on size and weight. The next challenge should be to put 2763 power into the new mid-range TW sizes.

 

[kctyphoon]

I'd like to add an m12 powered heated shirt, with only a heating element on the lower back.. wouldn't mind a power source with a belt clip like the Bosch and something like their new base layer shirt.. my back always hurts

 

[kctyphoon]

Oh, and an M18 impacting ratchet.. I'd buy that just to have a new toy, even though I don't need one..

 

[cheechi]

Semi thread hijack continued.

The Bosch impact wrench/driver doesn't like the Dewalt bit holders with the sliding sleeve, or the 1/4" nut driver. In both cases they are just too short to really lock the notch, so they either get stuck or sit loose. Seem fine with the Milwaukee impact bits I have or dewalt 2" bits.

 

[paradoxical3]

I would really like a M18 air compressor/tire inflator. It would be amazingly convenient to just bring a couple M18 batteries to the track and be able to power my lights, vacuum, impact, and tire inflator.

 

[danski0224]

DeWalt has an inverter that is powered by 4 20V batteries and it charges them.

That seems like a great idea.

Pure sine wave output and a decent charging rate would be pluses on the Milwaukee side.

 

[chrisexv6]

How about a 120V adapter for the darn miter saw, like DeWalt has?

That's really the only reason I haven't sold my heavy *** Bosch slider and bought the Milwaukee to replace it.