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Milwaukee M12 ratchet or Snap On Cordless?

mspecperformance

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Any opinions? Snap on is releasing their 14.4v cordless ratchets (CTR761 and 725). Price point is around $360 for the Snap on while the milwaukee is around $150 for a kit (only 1 battery). Any opinions on if the Snap on is worthy of the price difference for a pro environment?
 
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braol

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Yes I think it will be only because the anvil is going to be stronger on the snapon. I currently have the M12 1/4 ratchet, love it. But I broke the anvil in just a couple months. Havent treated it any worse than I have my 1/4 air ratchet. I was going to get the m12 3/8 because I figure it would be a little stronger than the 1/4 but then I found out about the SO. So I am going to wait to get my hands on one before I make a decision. The size of the ,on the SO, is what I am worried about.
 

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I have the m12 3/8 and I love it. a coworker at work claims he is buying the snapon as soon as it comes in. I would really like to see how they compare to each other. the snap on is rated 30 ft lbs and the m12 is rated 35. I am excited to see a real world comparison.
 

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I'm excited to see the snappy. I think we still have a bit until we see it in our region. My Milwaukee has been really nice, no complaints. But when I purchased mine it was tool only for $80.00 or so if I recall correctly. I have allot of m12 tools already so had no need for additional battery or charger.
 
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mspecperformance

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Was very close to pulling the trigger on a m12 however home depot only had one m12 left out and no home depot sales help in sight even after paging a salesperson. Smh
 

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I have the snap on 1/4". This thing has to be damn close to 30lbs it works amazingly even when I think its not going too. I was putting 10mm bolts back in a Jeep after doing a radiator two of the bolts went in cross threaded and I was like **** it. I didnt think they would even go down half way. They when all the way in and even went down tight. Lol I know I know but I originally pulled these bolts back out but they just wouldnt not go in straight.
 

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Look up CPO, they usually have some deal going on. I just got a email this weekend for a M12 impact driver with 2 batts for $99. That is a killer deal. I got my M12 ratchet with a free battery from them.

Sign up for there emails, they will send you all kinds of offers.
 

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The snappy guy was just showing off their new cordless ratchet last week. My initial observations... SO is longer and bulkier, much louder than the m12, has more power than the m12. I can stall out the m12 with my bare hands if I tried hard. Tried the same thing with the SO and could not stall it out giving everything I had. Oh and the SO pricetag is a little hard to swallow considering the m12 can be had for less than half the price.
 

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For what its worth I own the m12 and using the 2.0 batteries it will pull t30 bolts out of a heui rail that my snap on 1/4 air ratchet will tighten down. Tried the snap on demo unit and it wouldnt budge them.. Ill take the m12 all day
 
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mspecperformance

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Bought the 3/8 14.4 cordless today, havent really used it yet, have the batteries charging right now. Looks to be a nice unit, went with it over the milwaukee due to the customer service fail at home depot.
 

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I have the M12 and I love it. Use it all the time at work(lawn mowers & yard equipment). I love it. It's Lightweight, plenty of power for my needs, long run time, and quick battery charge time. Snap on man refuses to stop at our shop, so I doubt I'll see theirs anytime soon.
 

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I'm about to fire my Snap On guy, he doesn't come to our shop, I stop by his place where he keeps his truck - near my home, but he has an attitude some weeks that comes across as my business doesn't matter, well I spend an average of $6K with him a year and I he doesn't burn a drop of diesel coming to see me, so you would think I would be getting better deals. He even had the balls to tell me how he has to go this race or that race because he handed out tickets to other customers, WTF, I've never received any tickets, so its adding up, looks like I'll be flagging down a Snap On truck near my work in a few weeks and see if he/she has a the new Snap On cordless ratchet.

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I'm about to fire my Snap On guy, he doesn't come to our shop, I stop by his place where he keeps his truck - near my home, but he has an attitude some weeks that comes across as my business doesn't matter, well I spend an average of $6K with him a year and I he doesn't burn a drop of diesel coming to see me, so you would think I would be getting better deals. He even had the balls to tell me how he has to go this race or that race because he handed out tickets to other customers, WTF, I've never received any tickets, so its adding up, looks like I'll be flagging down a Snap On truck near my work in a few weeks and see if he/she has a the new Snap On cordless ratchet.

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Dude for that money get a new dealer if possible. 6k isn't a drop in the hat.
 

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Bought the 3/8 14.4 cordless today, havent really used it yet, have the batteries charging right now. Looks to be a nice unit, went with it over the milwaukee due to the customer service fail at home depot.

The fail was expecting customer service at HD. The big box stores hire warm bodies, nothing more. Not Milwaukee's fault.

Plenty of people (as even evidenced here) see a "customer service fail" from Snap-On as well. It comes down to ONE guy who has your territory; he might be cool, or he might be a *****. I don't buy much from them so they don't want to talk to me. That's not customer service in my book.
 
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mspecperformance

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The fail was expecting customer service at HD. The big box stores hire warm bodies, nothing more. Not Milwaukee's fault.

Plenty of people (as even evidenced here) see a "customer service fail" from Snap-On as well. It comes down to ONE guy who has your territory; he might be cool, or he might be a *****. I don't buy much from them so they don't want to talk to me. That's not customer service in my book.

I have a decent relationship with my snap on dealer. Customer service goes a long way, I went to HD after work and I was getting annoyed having to wait around for help which never came. So I guess that cost me an extra $200. oh well.
 

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I have the m12. Have not seen the snap on. I use my m12 every day. It's not a powerhouse but it is a real time saver. I use it for body and trim bolts, water pump housing bolts, oil pans and the like. It is awesome for dashboard work. I also use it where access is tight and swinging a ratchet or wrench is a pain since it does not have an air hose and fitting to drag around. Sometimes ill just break a bunch of bolts loose with a wrench or ratchet and then switch tithe m12 to speed things up. Because it is not overly powerful I use it to reassemble stuff too without fear of stripping or breaking small bolts. Compared to an air ratchet it is less powerful but quieter, cleaner and more convienisnt. It is more fragile however. Battery life is stupendous IMO. I hardly ever charge it.

So this is not really an answer to your question which one but it might help you decide if you are on the fence
 

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I've had my m12 1/4 ratchet for over a month. I love it i use it for everything.in that month I've only had to use my 1/4 air ratchet once not because of power but because the battery got one the way.it was a super tight spot under the engine even that air ratchet barely fit.the m12 performance even got my Forman to buy one and he likes, and this guy abuses his tools, has broken the heads on all his air ratchets so waiting to see how his Milwaukee holds up, so far very good. Only problem with mine is my 1/4 to 3/8 adapter flies of at times.my snappy guy hasn't gotten their version yet or the ct8810, wth snap on? Anyways I've decided I'm just going to go to home depot and buying the bare tool 3/8 ratchet and a spare battery for much less and better warranty plus I'm very inpatient.
 
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I broke the anvil on my M12 1/4 in about a month of everyday use. Wanting to get my hands on a SO 3/8, but I am thinking from the pics I wont like the size of the battery. If thats the case I will likely end up with the M12 3/8 ratchet to take some of the load off the M12 1/4.
 

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Hey fellas, I am kinda in the market for a cordless ratchet I believe. I had some questions about them first though. But first off I will let you know the situation I am in so you can decide if it would be a good buy.

I am an apprentice Heavy Duty Tech, I work on oilfield truck and trailers, so everything is usually seized on. When doing brake jobs or anything it is a real pain because either my creeper is getting caught on the **** on the ground or on the airlines, so I figure cordless is the way to go. I have a cordless impact (3/8 dewalt 12v) but it just doesn't have the jam to break most of these fasteners loose. So my questions are would this ratchet suit my needs? Can it be used to break fasteners free by hand, then spin em quickly off? And of course Snappy vs. M12? I am thinking M12 because everyone here recommends it and it is alot cheaper than the snap on. Though if I bought the snap on at the right time I may get some goodies with it that could even it out some.

I actually don't have much experience at all with air ratchets, so I am a little weary of whether I need it or not, I am just on a real cordless kick lately.
 

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I dunno Piles, it can be used as a regular ratchet and is intended to do so....but you can really get quite a bit of leverage on it if you put your palm at the end of the battery, and I'm not sure how much abuse it'll take. I'm assuming this is how Braol broke his, the battery certainly doesn't have enough power to damage the ratcheting mechanism IMO (edit: or shear the anvil).

I still think it's slow - same complaint as air ratchets - so if you can find a way to get by with 3/8" impacts you'd be better off. I love my M12 ratchet, but not sure it's for oilfield trucks and trailers. I live in the gas patch and see what that equipment goes thru and how it's treated.
 

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I dunno Piles, it can be used as a regular ratchet and is intended to do so....but you can really get quite a bit of leverage on it if you put your palm at the end of the battery, and I'm not sure how much abuse it'll take. I'm assuming this is how Braol broke his, the battery certainly doesn't have enough power to damage the ratcheting mechanism IMO (edit: or shear the anvil).

I still think it's slow - same complaint as air ratchets - so if you can find a way to get by with 3/8" impacts you'd be better off. I love my M12 ratchet, but not sure it's for oilfield trucks and trailers. I live in the gas patch and see what that equipment goes thru and how it's treated.

Hmm, sounds like this could be a hit or miss deal. I do work on my own vehicles at home, and am in the midst of restoring one so maybe if it doesn't work out I could just use it there. Either way my thoughts of getting one soon are out the window. My vehicle was stolen last night, and I am fighting with insurance about what coverage I have/had.
 

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I dunno Piles, it can be used as a regular ratchet and is intended to do so....but you can really get quite a bit of leverage on it if you put your palm at the end of the battery, and I'm not sure how much abuse it'll take. I'm assuming this is how Braol broke his, the battery certainly doesn't have enough power to damage the ratcheting mechanism IMO (edit: or shear the anvil).

I still think it's slow - same complaint as air ratchets - so if you can find a way to get by with 3/8" impacts you'd be better off. I love my M12 ratchet, but not sure it's for oilfield trucks and trailers. I live in the gas patch and see what that equipment goes thru and how it's treated.

I would not get either Milwaukee ratchet for what you are doing. If you are dead set on a ratchet the new Snapon 3/8 is what I would get. But I would recommend you get the new Snapon 3/8 impact or if you want to adjust the power down the Milwaukee M18 Fuel 3/8 impact. Both have more than twice the power of the Dewalt 12v impact. And if they wont break it loose either break them by hand or buy a fullsize cordless 1/2 impact from Milwaukee(I would wait till the new Fuel version comes out), Snapon or Ingersol. Thats what I do, if my Fuel 3/8 wont break it loose I use the fullsize 1/2. If it dont fit I break it by hand.

I broke my M12 1/4 ratchet by pulling the trigger and then putting it on the fasteners to many times. I have done that with my Mac air ratchet for years and never broke it.
 

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The snappy 1/4 ratchet is a nice ratchet. Only gripe i have is the breaker is annoying as all get out. Wish it was set a little higher.
 

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My best friend who is a snap on dealer told me the m12 is better hands down in every single way. He said he wouldn't even sell me one cause I'd return it and get an m12
 

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As a contractor I have dozens of cordless tools Milwaukee is all I buy. They hold up and are really built very well. You can find them used all over the web for a fraction of the price. Craigslist has them all the time. I have gotten the drivers and drills for as little as $30. I have a bunch of chargers and batteries. Snap-on is not the best by a long shot and they are 3 to 5 times over priced.
 

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Lol have you used a snap on? To say it's not the best with nothing to back that up is just empty. Anyway I have a snap on and yes it was expensive but it works awesome and very well. Time will tell how durable it is. Plus I use the batteries and charger with my " over priced " 3/8" lithium gun.

The battery on my snap on is very long lasting and it Ferrell's pretty powerful for a 1/4" ratchet. Stronger than the FAR25 I used to use.
 

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nanashi, I don't suppose you have it on hand to just take a quick measurement of the square drive to the back of the directional switch (the thickness of the head in other words).
 

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I haven't measured it but I can tell you it's thick,the ratchet head is is pretty big on the snappy and feels solidly built compared to the Milwaukee.ive played with it on the truck, it has a differ feeling the whole ratchet is a little bigger and longer.if you hit the trigger it feels very torquey.after seeming the pics of the green one I can't stop but think I need now even though my Milwaukee is flawless.my dealer said he won't get it till around Christmas.s....soo it seems like ima have to buy me a little present.lol.
 

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Some are saying the Milwaukee warranty is better. What are the quick and dirty details of both company's warranties for these cordless ratchets?
Im a Snap On guy but leaning toward m12
 

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Milwaukee is 5 years tool 2 years battery
Snap-On is 1 year tool 1 year battery

Snap-On does have their flat rate rebuild program but considering the out of pocket price difference you can literally buy two milwaukees for the price of one snap-on and still have cash left over. If you aren't in a rush Milwaukee also does battery promotions a couple times a year where they'll throw a third in free.
 
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Milwaukee is 5 years tool 2 years battery
Snap-On is 1 year tool 1 year battery

Snap-On does have their flat rate rebuild program but considering the out of pocket price difference you can literally buy two milwaukees for the price of one snap-on and still have cash left over. If you aren't in a rush Milwaukee also does battery promotions a couple times a year where they'll throw a third in free.
O ok. Ya Mil. def has the better warranty.
So more torque, better warranty, cheaper.... :dunno::dunno:

Ya Im not in a rush. That sounds like a pretty good deal right there.
Thanks for the info :beer:
 

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After 8 months of beating in my 1/4 Milwaukee it broke the anvil off. It's off to Milwaukee for service. I am surprised it made it that long cause I use it a lot and I am not typically easy on tools.

I have yet to use the snap on my dealer has some on order after the convention
 
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