Milwaukee one key

[Fluelikesymptoms]

For fathers day I'm "suprisingly" getting the Milwaukee 1/2 impact, tool only.

Battery a charger for the impact aren't cheap, about 200 for a good beefy battery and charger, and I already have a makita driver drill combo.

I know someone who is willing to buy my makita combo for 200 bucks (it's still like new). The Milwaukee driver drill combo is 400 and comes with 2 batteries and a charger.

Would you guys keep the makita and just get a charger for the Milwaukee. Or would you sell the makita and add that extra 200 to it and buy the Milwaukee combo kit.

I like the makita no problems with it, it is a bit over powering at times, and that one key feature on there driver drills seem pretty sweet. Plus they would all share the same battery platform.

 

[seber]

I'm not sure which combo kit you are looking at but Home Depot is advertising a five tool kit with two batteries and charger for $450. That would be a no brainer for me. That would mean you get four extra tools and another battery for $250.

 

[Fluelikesymptoms]

The cheapest 5 piece combo in my area is 550 I do t see one listed for 450. And that comes with a circular saw,seawall, and light. I already have those corded and prefer the cord. Dont need the light.

I'm looking at the Milwaukee ONE-KEY driver Drill combo for 399 it comes with 2 5.0 amp batteries and charger. That or the surge driver combo for 450.

I like that you can adjust the torque level which is more of a problem sometimes then I originally anticipated with my makita.

Anyone else have these, they fairly new and I know Milwaukee is reputable, but sometimes even the best screw things up. Anyone have problems with it?

 

[Wrench97]

Do you really need electronic tracking on your drill?

 

[LeeG]

The OneKey stuff is nice because you can adjust the speed/torque values on the fly with your phone.

 

[Yarpo]

Unless I'm missing something your estimates for a battery and charger are significantly high. A 5.0 and charger is near 80/90 dollars. I wouldn't (and don't) use anything larger with my impact, they're large/heavy enough as is, lets say you wanted to go bigger tho...

A 9.0 and charger should be near 130 dollars.

However being on the same platform is certainly nice, so I'd vote for selling the Makita and buying the red combo kit.

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[tutti57]

Yeah, you can get big, new Milwaukee brand batteries cheap on eBay. If you have any M12 tools/batteries you can get the charger that does M12 and m18 for about $30 on there.

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[2manytools]

The OneKey stuff is nice because you can adjust the speed/torque values on the fly with your phone.

Do you really need electronic tracking on your drill?

It's not just tracking, and I wouldn't say it's great at that. In terms of locationing, it's best feature is to lock the tool out if it's too far from your phone.

Yes you can change values, but the feature they were touting when it was announced was the ability to set exact torques. While nice, the multiple speeds on the regular HTIW is enough.

The tools that make sense to have OK for, are the sawzall (set start speeds, kind of material cutting), hammer drill if you use a lot of hole saws (sets optimal rpms for speed / blade life), and the fancier trade specific tools that allow them to show documentation (electric crimps).
Some of those points become moot though with other technology advances. The Super sawzall has orbital option & a speed dial negating phone customization. Hole saws now have carbide teeth.

 

[2manytools]

Yeah, you can get big, new Milwaukee brand batteries cheap on eBay. If you have any M12 tools/batteries you can get the charger that does M12 and m18 for about $30 on there.

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Doesn't matter if you have m12 or not, it's still the same charger. They don't make a solo M18 120v charger.

 

[tutti57]

Doesn't matter if you have m12 or not, it's still the same charger. They don't make a solo M18 120v charger.

I own a solo m18 charger. Got it with my drill.

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[tutti57]

Here's the pudding.

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[La Petite Tools]

Here's the pudding.

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i have that same charger.

 

[2manytools]

I own a solo m18 charger. Got it with my drill.

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Apologies, Milwaukee currently only makes a M12/M18 charger.

I suppose early on it was only olo M18 chargers, as M12 wasn't around yet. Doubtful anyone would buy that if they did come across it on eBay. And I'm sure what ever seller will think it's special, and mark up accordingly.

 

[Rabid Badger]

I would be swapping the Milwaukee impact for an equivalent Makita tool myself. The less sensitive electronics in my tools the better.

If you're having trouble with your drill trying to break your wrist you would be better served to read up on proper drill bit types and drilling technique.

 

[Fluelikesymptoms]

I would be swapping the Milwaukee impact for an equivalent Makita tool myself. The less sensitive electronics in my tools the better.

If you're having trouble with your drill trying to break your wrist you would be better served to read up on proper drill bit types and drilling technique.

Yes but the Milwaukee impact is a beast of a cordless impact.

It's not anything to do with my wrist, it's when I'm running something and it seems like the impact driver wants to over torque more of the lighter duty stuff.

Good point on additional points of failure, I feel as though Milwaukee would do a good job at durability.

I know I have worked with some Panasonic impacts that have similar features and the tool wants to cut off into limp mode because it thinks its overheating when it's not. Curious if that's something anyone has seen with the milwaukee

 

[Aquamoose]

I would be swapping the Milwaukee impact for an equivalent Makita tool myself. The less sensitive electronics in my tools the better.

If you're having trouble with your drill trying to break your wrist you would be better served to read up on proper drill bit types and drilling technique.

Funny, I went the OTHER way. The Makita batteries turned themselves into useless paperweight after 3 unsuccessful charges because of some chip that detected some cell it didn’t like within. Calls to Makita was met with “Sorry, can’t help ya” so that ended my 25 year loyalty and literally got rid of all of them and went red.


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[gearhead1]

I much prefer the Red and Yellow.

In general, if I was just getting into it, I’d go Ridgid if I didn’t do a lot of mechanical work. I say that because Milwaukee has the ratchets, so it seems they have more mechanic’s tools. If all you need is an impact, go Ridgid. They all have drills and saws. I got into DeWalt because that’s what I had easy access to at the time I was ready to quit the minor league and get into the big league.

In this case, I’d sell the Makita, and go with Milwaukee kit and never look back.

 

[Rabid Badger]

Funny, I went the OTHER way. The Makita batteries turned themselves into useless paperweight after 3 unsuccessful charges because of some chip that detected some cell it didn’t like within. Calls to Makita was met with “Sorry, can’t help ya” so that ended my 25 year loyalty and literally got rid of all of them and went red.


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Lithium battery technology has advanced a lot in the last decade.

I tend to avoid tool manufacturers that can't figure out how to install a chuck on a drill straight for years, put chucks they know are garbage on their drills for years, etc, etc.

Now that they've started listing breakaway (aka ********) as their only torque spec on their impacts, Milwaukee is officially dead to me.

 

[tutti57]

It's the horsepower wars of impacts. It's nonsense. I have a newer IR air and the first gen Milwaukee HT and both are overkill. You don't need that much power. I probably should have sold my HT and kept the mid torque. Nothing wrong with cracking something loose with a bar and spinning it off with a gun.

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[Fluelikesymptoms]

I know there's alot of nonsense going on with cordless tools, and that you are probably getting quality item red, blue or yellow. You only need so much power in a impact driver or drill before you start looking at getting into the bigger rotary hammer drills and impact wrenches anyways. And let's be honest, it might be nice, but do we really need for our drills to get any smaller. I mean, we've made it this long.

I know someone said the high torque is over kill and alot of other say its unnecessary. However, I cant stop myself. I really want it. Even if it gets used once a year. I want it enough that I sold all of my makitas today for simplicity of having the same battery platform.

To be honest I wouldn't have even considered selling the makitas if it wasn't for the HT Milwaukee impact. I wouldve just bought the 1100 ft-lb makita if I didn't want it bad enough. I plan on using the HT for things like axle nuts pulley bolts etc, which I find myself dealing with alot on mobile work where I dont have access to a compressor.

Im really big on long term durability, so my main concern was all the reports of the gen 3 Milwaukee overheating. I figured hell, a 5 year warranty I'll get started on the platform. Turn it in if I have any problems and in the mean time keep my eye out for a good deal on a good condition gen 2.

I've also heard of people replacing the chucks with dremel chucks ??? Agian I'd just milk the warranty before considering avoiding it.

I wonder if there's a way to fab your own way to cool the drill driver down, like cutting air inlets into the frame or adding some sort of heat pipe in all of that crammed sub compact. Maybe wiring a ground to a more comfortable location.

Anyways it's too late to stop it now, already started. I did decide against the ONE-KEY ultimately. I personally dont have a use for it, but I will say I use Panasonic impacts at work with a similar programmable torque feature and they are more helpful them people realize. I dont think that product was necessarily aimed towards the average tech or consumer, but still available to them.

 

[2manytools]

It's the horsepower wars of impacts. It's nonsense. I have a newer IR air and the first gen Milwaukee HT and both are overkill. You don't need that much power. I probably should have sold my HT and kept the mid torque. Nothing wrong with cracking something loose with a bar and spinning it off with a gun.

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Overkill for what? Just like you said, the mid-torque is more the right tool for your jobs. Work on tractors, rusty tractor equipment, large trucks, you will happily toss your mid-torque for a HT. Plenty of uses for the HT, and no worry it won't take it off, just will the mofo fit. I think most end up with the HT with the thought of maybe I'll have something the mid won't take off, but then after finding the mid does most everything they need, regret kicks in.

 

[tutti57]

You're right. I forget we aren't all auto mechanics here.

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