Yea I was talking to online chat, they want to charge Internationals 9.99 shipping as well. I'll try it in store. I thought it was policy that in store didn't match an online retailer, only HD.com did. But I'll try it as I really don't want another 2.0.
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Yea I was talking to online chat, they want to charge Internationals 9.99 shipping as well. I'll try it in store. I thought it was policy that in store didn't match an online retailer, only HD.com did. But I'll try it as I really don't want another 2.0.
2manytools
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Some HDs have longer fence poles stuck somewhere than others. I do have a shortcut to the HD price match policy on my phone, and does say any retailer. One manager said IT wasn't a real vendor, but out of the 5 or 6 HDs I go to, I would only like to avoid one (though end up there anyway). Some will want to match the shipping, which is legitimate, but I often will throw another Milwaukee item to circumvent that
javyLSU
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I was actually able to do this over the weekend - the first HD I went to said that International Tool is a "lumber house," and they "don't price match lumber houses." I didn't even bother explaining that IT is an authorized Milwaukee dealer, I just put the ratchet back and went to another HD that actually likes to sell stuff. They price matched IT's ratchet + 2.0 battery promo, including shipping which I was fine with. Here's the "return value" breakdown in case anyone is interested:
Milwaukee M12 FUEL CORDLESS 3/8 IN. RATCHET SKU 1002718788
Unit Price: Discount: Max Return Value:
$169.00 -$80.48 $88.52
Milwaukee M12 2.0 AH BATTERY SKU 1000000716
Unit Price: Discount: Max Return Value:
$59.00 -$18.52 $40.48
Later this afternoon I'll return the battery to another HD that I hate.
techieman33
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Why are people returning batteries at different stores? The couple times I’ve done a return like this I was able to walk out to my car, put the rest of my purchases in it, walk back into the store with the battery, and return it right then.
javyLSU
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Some retail chain stores count returns against that store's sales, and I don't want the stores that take care of me to get penalized for returns.
Farmall450
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Damn, someone really wronged you. Or, your HDs aren't 40 minutes away.
a***nc83
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So i have had the Dewalt hi-torque impact for some time; and its been ok. Recently decided to switch over to milwaukee tools for automotive work; because of the 3/8" ratchet.
So i would be looking to get the 3/8" ratchet, a decent regular use impact gun (compact if possible, i am still not sure if this is needed if i have the m12 ratchet) and one of the hi-torque m18 impacts.
What is the best deal/most cost effective way to go about getting this set up?
I will be in Orlando, Florida in a weeks time, so i could get everything there.
So i would be looking to get the 3/8" ratchet, a decent regular use impact gun (compact if possible, i am still not sure if this is needed if i have the m12 ratchet) and one of the hi-torque m18 impacts.
What is the best deal/most cost effective way to go about getting this set up?
I will be in Orlando, Florida in a weeks time, so i could get everything there.
javyLSU
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Right on both counts. I’ve got three HD stores within a 15 minute drive, and one of them has a telephone pole stuck up their **** - so they get all my returns.
I can't offer a deal but I have a lot of Milwaukee and can offer advice. The M12 Stubby impact(1/2" model number: 2555-20) is a better impact than the M18 compacts and is more powerful(But you need a 4.0 battery or larger, or the compact 48-11-2430 3.0 battery). I highly recommend it.
If you're going high torque you'd also need to go with M18. If you REALLY need high torque, there are the high torque models brushed and brushless. But if you can get by with about 600 ft/lbs, the mid-torque (2861-22) is significantly smaller and lighter weight so it's less fatiguing to use.
a***nc83
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Thanks for the reply, yea i am definitely interested in a high torque; i have VW, Audi and Mercedes, i spent a week trying to get the axle nut off my RS4 (the dewalt high torque wouldn't budget it). So yea definitely would like a high torque (1400 ftlb model 2767, is what i am looking at it)
I would also like the 3/8" ratchet; my brother came by to help this past weekend and brought his, i couldn't put it down, i was using all the time; in fact this is the tool that seal the deal for me to convert over.
And if a compact/stubby regular 1/4" impact is possible and no redundant, i would love to get that as well.
Here are some nice milwaukee options at home depot.
High torque, but you'll need to buy a charger. You can get them on ebay for like $25.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwauk...18-5-0Ah-Battery-2767-20-48-11-1850/305907274
Mid torque, but it comes with a 2 amp battery instead of the bigger 5. You can get batteries on ebay.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwauk...ing-Kit-W-1-2-0Ah-Battery-2861-21CT/304238558
I'd like to echo what someone above mentioned. The 1/2 stubby (milwaukee 2555-20) is an awesome tool. I've got that paired with a 6.0 battery. I use that for the day to day stuff, and i take the high torque out when needed which isn't so often, but nice to have. The high torque is big and heavy and not fun to use all the time. The 1/2 stubby is light weight and pretty powerful. Good enough for a high majority of things i need it for.
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agreed, the half inch stubby is incredibly good for the money
a***nc83
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Would you say 2555-20 is good enough for tyre changes? What are your thoughts on the m12 3/8" ratchet?
Is there a trick way to go about getting all these things, i saw mention of guys buying kits and selling the tools not needed, and offsetting the cost.
As long as you pair it with a 4.0 or better battery, yes. Takes off my lugs no problem and they're 150 ft/lbs. Amazing little guy.
I personally love my M12 3/8" ratchet, the Fuel is super powerful but large and it appears to be easier to find on sale. The Brushed 3/8" is smaller but eBay is really the only place I'd buy it from, you can get it at around $75, which is a little high IMO. You'd think it would drop like the brushed drills and screwgun, which are $50 and lower.
I like the M12 3/8” stubby. If it is not enough, I have the M18 mid torque. I also have the M18 high torque but rarely use it. I don’t have any need for a 1/2” stubby. I am just a DIYer working on a few BMWs. I would not recommend the M12 1/2” stubby as your main tire changing impact. It might often be sufficient. I use my M12 3/8” and it usually works. But sometimes corrosion or rust requires more power. Plus it is not critical to have a smaller and lighter tool when you are removing and installing 50 lb wheels.
You dislike the 2.0s or just already have to many? I feel like the M12 2.0s and the M18 5.0s are the current sweet spot. They are basically half the cost of the 3.0s and 6.0s. Do you find the performance difference with the bigger batteries is worth such a large cost difference?
a***nc83
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Why do you recommend or suggest the higher amp battery, longer run time? Or it just wouldn't generate the same amount of torque?
The brushless ones are the second gen ratchets right? I think my brother's is the 1st gen.
2manytools
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I bought too many 3.0ah compacts for $32 each, enough to not want any 1.5/2ahs around. If you can get a M18 5ah for $60 or less, I'd say it's a decent deal (too much for me now), but I wouldn't compare it to the 6ah necessarily. You can get an 8ah HO for $100, which seems almost where the 6ah is hovering around ($85-95), and the 8ah is the same weight/size as the 6ah (so I guess the 6ah is overpriced)
For most applications, the HO batteries are probably not nccessary, but I'd rather have batteries that are fully capable of driving all of my tools. I'm using my chainsaw more & more, and will only use the 6/8/12 HO in it. Don't have to, but what I prefer
a***nc83
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Good point, didn't initially realise the 2555 was a 1/2; i'm also a Diyer; the 3/8" would be my preference and then have the high torque 2767-20, as a 1/2" impact.
Do you recommend a particular 3/8"?
Also i have been going back and forth between the detent and the ring versions. My dewalt is a detent, but sometimes its a real pain to get the socket off.
2manytools
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The larger XC batteries have more available power for the tool. If you put an HO battery on an M18 impact wrench, it sounds like it found a new gear. I thought what the tool was rated for, is what you got on any battery, but it is clearly not the same.
First, both are 1st generation. Nothing has been replaced. Fuel line is not a replacement or a new generation for a non-fuel tool.
All Fuel tools are all brushless (though not all brushless tools are Fuel in their lineup, but very few), and that would indicate the newer model.
I'd go with Fuel 3/8" Stubby, and probably the ring version. Unless you are working elevated, or really prone to dropping sockets, the ring is preferred. The ring is also much more available (in store at HD, but no detent model), and more sales/discounts on it.
The other option if you do get a detent model, is to file the detent down so it doesn't have so much holding power.
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a***nc83
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Awesome thanks or all the input.
I think i more or less have it all down...now on to the final part; are there any kits that are most cost effective in acquiring these pieces, or a particular retailer, pricing matching someone else?
What would be the recommended way to go about getting these? I am not in a rush; i can wait for thanksgiving sales, or whatever someone suggests.
I went with the 1/2 stubby because all my impact sockets are 1/2. Same with my universal sockets - all 1/2. The 1/2 and 3/8 have the same power specs, but i preferred not having to buy all new impact sockets for a 3/8 stubby impact, so i just got the 1/2. It's got 250 ft/lb of torque, so it's good enough for at least 90% of what i attempt to use it for. It's got plenty of pop to get of lugs on regular cars.
You might want to consider the 1/2" mid torque. If i were to only get one tool, that would be the one i get. It's the perfect middle ground tool. 600 ft/lb of torque and not too big and bulky. That home depot link i posted for $200 for the kit and buy an extra 5 amp battery when they go on sale or on ebay.
My 4 Milwaukee impacts are all friction ring. I think friction ring is easier than decent to change sockets quickly and I use a bunch of different sizes. Never had an issue with sockets flying off unexpectedly in the 10 years I have been using Milwaukee. The M18 high torque is a beast. Not something you want to heft all day. But there is not much it won’t do. The M18 mid torque will do most of what a DIYer wiring on cars needs to do while being lighter and more compact.
a***nc83
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So, i just bought some land and will be building my house and garage shortly. I am considering potentially buy a light duty tractor that can work with multiple attachments for doing stuff around the property. So i figured i would get the high torque that would allow me to work on that vehicle as well.
The m12 3/8 impact would handle tyre changes and light to medium work, the m12 3/8 would handle light stuff. And if i'm caught in the middle i can pull out my dewalt which is supposed to do up 1200 ft/lbs ... :/
a***nc83
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Friction ring it is
I figured i can add the mid torque later; i just want to avoid being a situation where i need more power; the extra weight can count as exercise, until i add the mid torque .. lol
2manytools
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Still off topic, probably should divert to Milwaukee thread, but we really don't use our HT wrench that much on our smaller Kubota tractors. It really only comes out on for our large John Deere, and for old rusty implements. Your Dewalt should be more than fine for what you will be doing. Unless your prone to forking things up real good & or get a lemon, you hopefully won't be doing much work on your tractor.
Here is deal, sort of. The Fuel Mudmixer dropped from $120 to $100 in the last week at HD
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I am curious in trying this out. I have the mid torque impact I normally run with a 5.0ah batteries. I just bought a 3.0ah compact HO battery. Curious if I can get the smaller size but still do what’s needed. Even if the battery doesn’t last as long.
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Is that online or in your local store? Still $199 bare tool on line.
a***nc83
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Hmmm now i guess i really do need to rethink all of this. I guess i can get the m12 ratchet, m12 3/8" compact and the Mid-torque now; and add the hi-torque later on.
I have been running my dewalt hi-torque on the 4.0 ah battery; i wonder if to get the full potential out of the i need the high capacity grey and red ones.
Can't thank everyone enough for weighing in on this.
Hmmm now i guess i really do need to rethink all of this. I guess i can get the m12 ratchet, m12 3/8" compact and the Mid-torque now; and add the hi-torque later on.
I have been running my dewalt hi-torque on the 4.0 ah battery; i wonder if to get the full potential out of the i need the high capacity grey and red ones.
Can't thank everyone enough for weighing in on this.
If you're getting a m12 3/8, i'd skip the mid torque and just go with the big dog. You'll be using the m12 and the m18 midtorque for similar things, but you're out of luck when you've got something really rusted or need to remove something like a crank bolt. For cars, the m12 is fine at 250 ft/lb of torque until you really not that big gun. That's when you have the high torque. I'd only recommend the mid torque if you weren't getting the m12 stubby, but the m12 is awesome because it fits in so many places and pulls off most stuff. That's just my two cents and what i have - m12 1/2" and a high torque for when needed. That or just go crazy and get all 3.
I agree the 3/8” stubby and high torque give you the greatest range of options and the stubby on low can do much of what the ratchet can do. Later, add more if you feel you need them and think they would offer enough convenience to be worth the expense. If you are like me and want to reduce the twisting at your rusts or elbows, I’d buy a 1/4” drive ratchet next. I use my M12 1/4” drive the most and rarely use my 3/8” ratchet.
Pretty much this. I have some 2.0s still in the package from Milwaukee rebates. I even got a pack of the 3.0s from HD and ended up returning them. Just going to get some XCs going forward as I don't need anymore compacts
Also you were right on having the return policy handy. Got the online bit this morning. Will try again at lunch with the policy pulled up. If not will do it online and return the battery the less preferred, but alternate method.
a***nc83
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Yea, that's my thought process at 250 ft/lbs, there isn't much on a car that won't do, especially being compact. When that runs out of juice; more than likely its really on there, or rusted....and in that case, i can pull out the high torque...i was pulling my hair trying to get that ****** axle nut off...ended up buying 3/4" breaker bars and sockets...which all added up could have gotten me the milwaukee high torque.
a***nc83
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Is the m12 1/4" smaller/ more compact than the 3/8". For me its just speed and ease of use/comfort. Our E63S estate, has, and i counted it 34 little torx screws holding the undercarriage covers and 26 more holding the fender liners, i would have easily take 3x longer working with a ratchet.
Crazy you couldn't get an axle nut off with a dewalt high torque though. You sure that tool is working correctly and you had it at the highest settings? That should be more than enough to easily pull off even a really rusted axle nut. I've pulled off rusty jeep axle nut with cheap ryobi impact wrenches before no problem. Can't believe a dewalt wouldn't be able to pull one off a car.
I use my impact driver for stuff like that. Has plenty of pop to get stuff like that off without having to do it by hand with a ratchet.
javyLSU
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Just to add my voice to this choir... This is the exact setup I have been using successfully for over a year. 1/2" M12 Stubby (2555-20) and a 1/2" M18 High Torque (2767-20). There's nothing on a car or truck that I haven't been able to remove with the stubby yet. One time the stubby started to take a bit longer to remove some 21mm suspension bolts, and then I realized I was using a half-empty 2.0 battery. Switched to a fully charged battery and it zipped them right off. the 4.0 battery is even better. Overall, this thing is an absolute pleasure to use. It's nice having the high-torque as an insurance policy though - I'm sure I'll get around to needing it soon here in rusty New England.
If I had to do it all over again, I would buy the exact same two impact guns I have - the 2555 and the 2767.
I like the E63 S Wagon. Is yours the old 6.2L or the 5.5L twin turbo or the newer 4.0L twin turbo? I am tempted by the last model with the 5.5L turbo.
The M12 1/4 drive has a slightly smaller head than the 3/8. Also the non fuel models are smaller than the fuel models. I wanted as compact a ratchet as possible so I bought the 1/4 non fuel. I also have the 3/8 fuel but don’t use it as much. There is a big size difference. As someone else pointed out, if you can fit the M12 stubby, you can put it on low power and use it for many projects instead of a ratchet. It impacts but on low power should not do any harm compared to a ratchet if you are careful.
ScottsGT
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Got my M18 chainsaw in today and broke it out of the box and went to work. Using a 9.0 battery and to say I’m impressed is an understatement. I’m worn out now from all the yard work.