Milwaukee Tool & Forge Co.

[woody 73]

Strange how life throws you a curve ball just when you least expect it, Yesterday I stopped by a garage sale and I thought even before I got out of the car woody this place is very expensive you are not going to find much in the way of tools, but that man had Vintage tools from the 1920's & 1930's out the wazoo. I can only cringe at what I had missed because I was chasing after other garage sales before coming to his sale.

MTF was started back in 1917 and they went up to the early 1930's I will leave you with two very nice links for a full and complete History to look at. Just another great tool company for you to keep your eyes open for in your tool hunts.

http://alloy-artifacts.org/milwaukee-tool-forge.html

http://www.toolarchives.com/node/2236

 

[twertsy]

I have a few of their tools, and a Motor Specialties pair of pliers.

I love MTF tools and hunt them rabidly. Method to the madness: I'm trying to show physical evidence of all the connections between the Milwaukee companies of the day (Snap-On, MTF, Husky, etc.)

I'd also be interested to see if anyone else has an example of MTF, Snappy or Husky handles forged by Harris-Thomas, another Milwaukee player from whom I have a Husky ratchet handle bearing their forge mark.

As always Woody, good thread!

Ricky Joe.............we should get together and do some horse-trading!!

 

[snapmom]

 

[twertsy]

show-off..............

 

[snapmom]

Sometimes you have to be careful for what you ask for. This is the pouch that is shown on the AA site.

 

[twertsy]

Some of my MTF stuff. Thought the screwdriver was cool and haven't seen others.



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[twertsy]

Cool selection. Those sockets look so much like Snap-On that MTF could have been the vendor for SO sockets. I have a different screwdriver with a taped up busted handle.

I've believed that for a while. As a minimum, I think they supplied the early socket blanks.

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[jvlyons99205]

Here is my small selection of MTF. I still need to get around to cleaning them.

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[woody 73]

Way wicked cool very nice finds...

 

[jvlyons99205]

Forgot I had one more picture of the ratchet.

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[Empty Pockets]

I have 1 stray MTF socket.... poor thing is lonely, but around here, there aren't any available out in the wild.

 

[Ole Slewfoot]

I could be wrong about this one.

 

[woody 73]

Ole Slew I went through an old catalog from twertsy's web-site (only catalog he had) and it had no chisel products; so at this time I am in the dark. Not saying they did not make it only saying I could not find any examples to compare it with. Wish I could give you a better answer.

 

[twertsy]

Ole Slew I went through an old catalog from twertsy's web-site (only catalog he had) and it had no chisel products; so at this time I am in the dark. Not saying they did not make it only saying I could not find any examples to compare it with. Wish I could give you a better answer.

Unfortunately those cats are hard to come by. The one I have on the site is not even the full catalog, just a supplement. See the Pic, that announcement is from 1927 so they certainly made (or at least "sold") them.

 

[woody 73]

I guess the jury is still out as they say...

 

[thehorse13]

I tried to get up with you some time back. I have been getting rid of tools for a while now, ever since my heart attack. I would probably give you the tools you care about. I have found outlets for my rare Snap-On and my everyday Snap-On, and some of my vintage car stuff. I sold Adrianboomer the Craftsman stuff from the thirties. I collected for forty years, but age and wisdom dictate the end of the line for me. Ask and he may receive!

You wouldn't happen to be unloading any Plomb pebble stuff would you?

 

[Ole Slewfoot]

They are listed in hardware age and such as in the punch and chisel business, even a couple ads referenced I cant get past snippet view. they font seems appropriate, and searching for 'MTF Chisel" didn't lead me to any other maker.

The heat treat instructions baked on certainly rules out modern production.

 

[snapmom]

I have a MTF cat (copy) from probably the mid 20s. 16 pgs. wrenches and Blue Points chisels and punches.

 

[twertsy]

Re: Milwaukee Tool & Forge Co.

I have a MTF cat (copy) from probably the mid 20s. 16 pgs. wrenches and Blue Points chisels and punches.

Do the ones in the cat resemble the cape one a few posts back?

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[twertsy]

You guys have a lot more patience and perseverance than I do. Looking at threads like this, you're collecting stuff that I've thrown in the scrap metal bin forever.

Do you still have your scrap bin? [emoji25]

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[snapmom]

No, they would be stamped "Milwaukee Blue Points"

 

[ssdave]

Do you still have your scrap bin? [emoji25]

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Usually a 5 gallon bucket or two in the shop, throw scrap metal in it, old shocks, brake rotors, parts, scrap tools, broken bolts, chinese sockets etc. If I take scrap down to the yard, or scrap out a car, I throw in the bucket with the rest. Last batch I got $8.34 at the yard. Haven't done any substantial amount of old tools recently, now I try to sell on ebay first. Threw away 50 pieces of P&C that wouldn't sell a couple of months ago, but fished them out and moved them this week. I had to move from one rental to another while my house is getting completed, I put aside a couple thousand pounds of stuff to ebay next winter. Rescued the P&C and threw them in with the rest while I was moving them.

Figuring out what is collectible and what is just old iron is the hard part. Now I just put it on ebay, if it doesn't sell in 3 tries, I junk it. I have been putting them on there, for the most part prior to junking them.

 

[ssdave]

Found a scrap tool bucket today clearing out garage. Here's the typical junk that goes to scrap.

 

[twertsy]

No, they would be stamped "Milwaukee Blue Points"

But isn't your catalog MTF? Or is it the BluePoint, manufactured by MTF version? My bet is the ones they sold under the MTF flag weren't branded with bluepoints. Can you see the branding/stamp in the catalog?

 

[snapmom]

here is a picture.

 

[twertsy]

Need some assistance filling a set. Sockets should be marked True Fit, and I need 1/2" drive 12 pt. 11/16, 3/4, 5/8 and 9/16.

Any assistance appreciated!

Todd

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[twertsy]

New arrival from eBay today.

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[woody 73]

Very nice twertsy (is your wife going to kill you) ?

 

[Private Lugnutz]

That's a terrific ignition set, twertsy.

I own a grand total of two (2) Milwaukee Tool and Forge tools.

A 7/16 x 1/2 engineers wrench caked in dry cosmolene and a 1/2-inch square drive swivel socket with a 6-point 5/8" service opening marked "MTF" and "FS 20." What's the age of the swivel socket?

 

[twertsy]

Very nice twertsy (is your wife going to kill you) ?

For what? I think she might have come to my shop once since I procured it. Another little gem will be showing up today......dated 1964 1/2

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[four.cycle]

^ did you snag that little wrench set?

 

[twertsy]

^ did you snag that little wrench set?

Absolutely. I would have been surprised if I got outbid........had a STUPID max bid on it.......but I wanted it

 

[four.cycle]

I wouldn't know anything at all about doing something like that.

It was tempting, I must admit.

 

[SKI1019]

Thanks to this thread, I can now connect MTF to MAC Tools. I've had this a while but I didn't know much about it. Now it'll move into the MAC tool box with it's grandkids! Thanks, Steve.
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum...nt.php?attachmentid=723649&stc=1&d=1515451617

 

[twertsy]

Thanks to this thread, I can now connect MTF to MAC Tools. I've had this a while but I didn't know much about it. Now it'll move into the MAC tool box with it's grandkids! Thanks, Steve.
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum...nt.php?attachmentid=723649&stc=1&d=1515451617

How are you connecting them? Pics are tough to see. MTF was Lectrolite by 1932, and MAC didn't exist until 1938.

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[SKI1019]

How are you connecting them? Pics are tough to see. MTF was Lectrolite by 1932, and MAC didn't exist until 1938.

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Todd, I certainly stand corrected. I must have had a senior moment or made that up in a dream. Thank you, sir!

 

[notlob]

Here is a link to a 1925 MTF catalog - appears to be the same catalog that snapmom posted above.

http://www.collectingsnapon.com/catalogs/curiosities.php?loggedin=0&curiositiesPage=273

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Well, I now have a grant total of three (3) Milwaukee Tool & Forge company tools! If there was a 'poster child' for collecting a set of tools from a vintage mfgr one piece at a time, MTF would be a good candidate for me. I just hardly ever see them, and when I do, it's always one piece at a time. To wit, this machined socket with a 12-point 3/4" service opening and the classic "MTF" monograph logo, picked up at the flea market this morning...

 

[Username already in use]

I was perusing some tools from a vendor at the flea with one of those big box trucks. He had a few tools out and I had already bought some stuff when I had the where with all to ask 'got any more tools on the truck'? He came out with a few more boxes of stuff. I found a few good things in the extras, but most interesting was this, only slightly twisted, MTF 3/4" drive extension. Someone had to put some real torque onto this thing at some point.
Marked Milwaukee True Fit Tool and Forge.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

That's a cool 'tweener piece. Harkens back to the early detachable era, just after pressed steel, and just before hot forged, when extensions had square shanks with forged sockets with female ends press-fit or welded on the other end.