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Mini split vs hanging natural gas heater

racecougar

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Mini-splits take longer than a NG heater to raise the temperature.
Certainly. They're far better suited to maintaining temp.

That said, with a mini-split, you'll almost always have the option of operating it remotely, so if you plan ahead a bit, you can turn up the heat before you plan to work in your shop.
 
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u3b3rg33k

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Just finished installing propane heater in my shop, thankfully I installed ceiling fans to help move the air around. Went from dead quiet shop, to a raging loud heater. Could'nt be more disappointed, should have roled the dice and went with mini split, splits? Just felt like to many na-sayers about ceiling height. Positive note, once up to temp the heater turns off.
The "heater turns off" benefit isn't a real benefit. you're paying for delivered BTU per hour, so if you burn hard and stop, or burn low and slow, the total fuel burned is the same.

That certainly is worth mentioning. The silent heating/cooling offered by a mini-split is definitely a big upside.
Just to show i'm not in the pocket of big minisplit, you CAN get a quiet NG heater. assuming the space isn't heated all the time, an insulated cabinet 80% furnace can be hung from the ceiling. throw a duct silencer on the output with a transition and a proper filter box on the inlet and you'll eat the majority of the noise it makes, vs a bare unit heater.


Mini-splits take longer than a NG heater to raise the temperature.
that depends entirely on the size of the unit. a 60k minisplit will raise the temp just as fast as a 60k NG unit. maybe faster, since the 60k NG unit is 60k NG INPUT, and the 60k minisplit is 60k output.

for example
60k input 80% NG =48kBTU output, and your average 60k heat pump is gonna be in the 55kBTU+ output. bigger number heats faster, barring being at a temperature extreme that limits capacity - and that affects NG units too to some extent - if you're pulling 70CFM of -10F air into the shop as combustion makeup air, those leaks subtract from your net heat output.

for example:
70CFM *1.08*(65F--10F) = 5700btu/hr additional heat loss. more than an entire plug-in space heater. (note, i've got no idea how many CFM of combustion air you'd need for a 60k furnace, 70cfm is a total guess)

so that takes a "60k BTU" NG heater from a theoretical 48k down to 42kBTU delivered. only 70% of the fuel burned is functionally heating your space!
 

Rocky Rotella

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I live in Omaha, too. We're in the I-680 and Pacific area.

I have 968 sq ft attached garage with 15+ foot ceiling and use a Modine Hot Dawg to heat it. I also have a 720 sq ft detached garage. Its equipped with a horizontally-mounted Goodman HVAC unit.

If you (or anyone else) would like to see it, send me a PM.
 
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Jagmandave

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And now for something completely different.......I live in KC, our weather is similar to Omaha. My shop is about 600 sq ft and is part of my house (split level, shop is under the bedrooms) and is insulated tho I do need new garage doors as mine leak air something awful. I installed a large 24KBTU window A/C with a built in heating strip. I was primarily after the A/C function for the heat and humidity of summer but the heating has been a wonderful surprise. In the coldest winter time it adds about $20 to my electric bill (we use very little electricity in winter) and in the summer the window A/C seems very efficient as it also only seems to add about $20 in the summer too.

So, super easy to install (I did have to run a 240V supply) as I built it into the lower half of the garage window......plug it in and it just works. My point is - sure put the natural gas heater in, but don't overlook modern window A/C units - mine cost under $600 - far less than any MiniSplit. Mine is a Frigidaire and has been working super for about 10 years now - bought it on Amazon.
 
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402NOBODY

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Here is the finished product. We have not had super cold weather yet to test it but so far, so good. I went over budget a bit(what project doesn't?), my existing line to the garage was only 3/8(thought is was 1/2") and I felt it needed to be 1/2. I think I had about 125 into 100' of 1/2 corrugated stainless flex line/fittings. Because of where I decided to mount it, mainly to be as close to the center of the garage and close to the gas line, I added about another 100 in vent tubing to make sure I met code. I still think I stayed around 700ish total.
 

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