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GrumpysWorkshop

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I built a detached garage workshop last year, and my insulation plans got delayed. Last winter, I wasn't using it much and it wasn't sealed so I used a kerosene torpedo running on diesel. Now, I'm working on getting it insulated - I have all the wall insulation in, the ceiling sheathed and almost ready for blown insulation, but winter is upon us and it's cold as ****. Would've been nice to have it all done 3 months ago, but c'est la vie.

I was thinking about getting a vented natural gas furnace installed eventually, because even though it's more expensive to install, it'd be the cheaper to run long term. I probably can't do that now because the ground's frozen and I need a gas line out to the shop. I can't run the diesel heater for very long since it's sealed up or I'll be dead soon. For a short term solution, I picked up a 19k BTU electric heater to see if it'd work, but it's just way too weak on it's own. So right now, I'm cycling between the diesel to get it up to temperature with the windows open, then using the electric to try and maintain it as long as possible before I have to kick the diesel back on. It works, but it's not great.

For the size of my shop, I'll need in the neighborhood of 35k BTU. I could get a second electric unit, and that should mathematically be enough, although the one I have is not a good indicator of performance. I could return it and get a better unit or pair of units, but electric heaters of that size aren't cheap. The second problem is I only have 60 amps of service to the garage, and at 20 amps a pop, that doesn't leave a whole lot left for activities. It's something I could work around for the time being, shutting one heater off for extended periods as I'm working, but as a permanent solution, electric would probably require replacing the line and maybe even the house panel, but if I do all that, I wouldn't switch to natural gas.

I thought I'd run it past you guys since you all seem to be dealing with the same problems in different ways. I just need a few opinions on what to do before I spend any more money.

Thanks.
 
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Steevo

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Why not go ahead and get a hanging gas unit heater. You can get one that can be either NG or Propane, with only minor changes of orifices, etc. That way, you can go with a free-standing propane tank outside for now, then dig the line for NG next year (or the year after), when the ground is not frozen.
 

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Why not go ahead and get a hanging gas unit heater. You can get one that can be either NG or Propane, with only minor changes of orifices, etc. That way, you can go with a free-standing propane tank outside for now, then dig the line for NG next year (or the year after), when the ground is not frozen.

I'll second this. Only thing I will add is you can run a temporary hose from your meter on the house to the heater in the shop. If the investment in the hose is too much you might be able to rent one from Lakes Gas. They are very responsive and cost effective.

They may be able to supply you with a temporary heat source too. I used them for 4 months to heat my building when Excel wouldn't show up to do the work after the request was in for 5 months.

Not sure where you are at in MN but here is my contact:

Patti Richards
Customer Service
Lakes Gas Co.
50 Packer Drive
PO Box 40
Roberts, WI 54023
715-749-3918
FAX 715-749-4029
[email protected]
www.LakesGasCo.com
 

Denwood

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My shop was heated with a Reznor hanging heater running from two 100lb propane tanks. I ran the gas line and converted it over a yr after buying the house. It's not a bad strategy.
 
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rtcblc

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I think the option of a hanging a Hot Dawg or Big Maxx using 100lb propane tank till your able to convert to NG is the way to go. I'm using a 30,000 BTU propane Mr. Heater Blueflame I purchased from TSC for $149.00 to heat appx. 1000sf w/ 10.5 ft. ceiling. It's taking the chill of nicely in a shop with a 44 degree interior temp. while single digits outside. I'll convert to a 40/50,000 BTU hanging propane unit eventually.
 

zmaxmotorsports

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Why not go ahead and get a hanging gas unit heater. You can get one that can be either NG or Propane, with only minor changes of orifices, etc. That way, you can go with a free-standing propane tank outside for now, then dig the line for NG next year (or the year after), when the ground is not frozen.

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