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garageInfo

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i am looking to purchase a miter saw. I don't do a lot of wood work but I am planning to build some cabinets for storage in the garage, found some great ideas on here. I am also looking to build a storage shed and privacy fence in the spring.

I am seeing a lot of miter saws on craigslist/facebook and such. Would you go with new or used? What kind of things would you look out for if you went used? I have a variety of Milwaukee battery tools so, if I go cordless I will go that route to share the battery and changing options. But cordless isn't required as I think most of my use would be within 50ft of power.

Thanks in advance for the info/opinions.
 
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lardy1

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There are countless used miter saws out there that have little or no real work time on them. If you aren't in a hurry, you'll run across a good one. If you don't mind cords you're already past that imaginary obstacle.
 

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I presume you are referring to a slide miter saw ?? I have a compound slide miter saw that I bought new, Makita if I recall right. Easily one of my favorite tools. I have cut wood, plastic, aluminum and even 80lb pigs of lead on it.

About like this pretty much, they did not offer a laser way back when I bought mine.

https://www.makitatools.com/products/details/LS1219L

The one thing they will not do that a radial arm saw WILL do is rip long boards lengthwise. I have had mine close to 20 years though and I have thought about getting a table saw a few times but obviously I manage without one :).

I know I would not have been nearly as happy with a non slide miter saw.

I have cut stuff wider than the cross cut capacity by cutting as far as it will reach, flipping the part over, start the blade back into the cut and finish it on up.
 

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If you’re planning to cut close to an outlet with an extension cord (properly sized) and ultra precision cut is a priority, go with used. I have a Bosch sliding miter saw mounted on a folding wheeled stand but still use my 23 year old $40 fixed miter saw for “rough” work although I just used it to trim baseboards because of portability.


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I've been rocking the corded Milwaukee compound mitersaw since 1993. Its simple and won't cut thru a 2x8 in one slice but I've managed to do all classes of work from cutting framing lumber, cutting gutters, garage door gasket-seals, and cutting hardwood stain-grade trim. A good blade (I prefer Freud) is more important than the brand that turns it if its repeatable. Being able to precisely measure (there's a halfway mark between those 1/16" measurements) mark clearly with a sharp pencil, be mindful of the kerf and spending the time to iteratively cut off thin slices, fit and check, cut more if need-be, I'm thinking of roughly 1/64" when it really matters is going to produce your best work.
 

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I bought my Bosch compound miter saw used that was local to me on CL. This was a few years ago. Judging by the pictures in the ad, which showed a substantial dust collection system, various presses and lathes, etc., I felt that I was getting a saw from someone who knew how to use it. When we spoke, he said the only reason he was selling was because he purchased a another saw primarily for its dust collection abilities. As the conversation went along, he mentioned woodworking was his hobby and showed me all the stuff he made for friends and family. I googled the address and did the street view setting and saw a nice neighborhood, so I felt better about going into a stranger’s basement.

My experience is probably the exception to the rule, it if you pay attention to other items in pictures, communication styles, etc., I think you’ll be okay. Don’t be afraid to ask questions. Buying used saved me a couple hundred bucks and I didn’t buy the first CMS I saw.
 

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I was also seeking to buy a miter saw, I have a house to frame this summer and thought it to be nice for cutting cripples. Would it be worthwhile to invest in one? 7 1/4, 10, or 12"?

I'm annoyed that DeWALT put a brushed motor on their 7 1/4" sliding cordless miter saw, otherwise it would be sufficient I believe.
 

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My first miter saw was a 10" Rigid that I bought for $50 at a flea market. I used it with its included blade for several years and it got the job done just fine as long as I took care to make sure it was squared up well and as long as I stayed within its cutting capacity.

Back in the fall I upgraded to a 12" Dewalt sliding double-bevel and the extra capacity is lovely. 4x4s, 2x8s, 1x12s...no sweat. It's a big, heavy beast though compared to my old Rigid.

I'm sure you can find tons of decent used options out there if you're not in a rush.
 

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Panel processing (needed for most cabinets) isn't a miter saws forte. You would be looking for either a table saw (if you have the room) or a track saw (if you have the money). Old Craftsman table saws are very abundant and cheap, well regarded by many. Makita seems like the go to track saw.
 
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Panel processing (needed for most cabinets) isn't a miter saws forte. You would be looking for either a table saw (if you have the room) or a track saw (if you have the money). Old Craftsman table saws are very abundant and cheap, well regarded by many. Makita seems like the go to track saw.

Sorry, should have been more clear. The cabinets will be faced with plywood probably. But I have my eye on get an old craftsman table saw also. That will probably be next. :)
 

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Dewalt, Makita and Bosch are all good brands I would recommend. Generally they will all give you adequate ability to dial in the miter and bevel angles and with a good blade, will do a great job. Decide if you need a 12” or 10”. Personally I prefer a 10, but I move my saw in and out of a basement and a 12” proved to be a bit much. Once I got used to cutting trim on the flat, the 10” has been enough. For precise trim work it feels like a scalpel in a way my 12 never did.

The thing I don’t like about the cheaper brands is you don’t always have the ability to dial them in. A friend of mine had a cheap Ryobi. He had the bevel and miter set up pretty well. We had to cut some 5” base flat on the table and found horrible gaps on our mitered corners. Turns out the miter wanders off 0 when you bevel. I couldn’t figure out a way to fix that.

Things to look for? Look for signs it’s been dropped. Check the table to make sure it’s flat and not twisted or warped. Check the fences to make sure they are flat, coplaner and at a right angle to the base. Make sure miter and bevel move freely throughout their range. Plow through a 2x8 and listen/feel for signs of strain in the motor. If it doesn’t cut well, check the blade. If it’s dull (cutting prefinished flooring will kill a blade) or loaded with pitch, that could explain it. Put a good blade on it and try again. Check the slides to make sure they operate freely and don’t deflect excessively. A saw that’s been dropped may have some points where the slides bind up along their travel. Avoid any saw that has missing pieces of metal from the base, fence or other castings.

When I was buying my first miter saw, I looked at a porter cable unit offered on CL. I came armed with a combination square and some scrap plywood. I tried a test cut first and something didn’t feel right. The saw had trouble cutting. Thankfully I didn’t push it. I checked the fences and they were straight, but they weren’t coplaner? I looked closer and saw a piece of the fence was missing. Best that I could guess, the ****** had a kickback, bent the fence casting and cracked one fence. That test cut would have pinched the blade if I had pushed harder and I would have had a kick back and possibly an injury. I gave him an earful and told him his greed is going to get someone hurt. Either fix it or throw it out. Turns out he did price out the replacement casting...it was more than the saw was worth. Not having much experience with miter saws at that stage, I went home thankful I had all my fingers and ordered a new saw. I wouldn’t have an issue buying a used saw today, but back then I should have found someone that knew more than me.
 
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ALL: I own 10 inch 20-30+ year old plain old Makita chop saws AND I can't kill one so I just put different blades on each one for simple straight cuts.

I own a Dewalt 12 inch compound miter that i'm just getting used to, but OMG does it cut nicely.
 

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I bought a 12" Ridgid about 9 years ago to build my house. It has stayed deadly accurate, despite being hauled all over my property on a Ridgid stand. The stand is a must, as the saw alone is 63 lbs. I like their stand, too, because of the 12" wheels for outdoor use. I bet I can set it up in under a minute. It will cut 4X4's and 2X12's with ease.

Periodically, Home Depot dumps Ridgid tools cheap when a new model is coming out. I paid $350 each for the miter and a table saw, down from about $600 each. Both have been solid performers.
 

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All 10" sliders are pretty decent these days. But the industry standard is Dewalt, cant go wrong.

Agreed, if you dont have a permanent bench spot, a mobile stand is a must. The Ridgid model gets excellent marks and goes on sale for $100 a couple times a year.

If looking for something different, both Hitachi and Makita offer a static rail slider (think Festool Kapex) that offer excellent accuracy and a smaller footprint.

It sounds like you are just looking for everyday utility, most sliders will fit the bill.
 

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I just bought a miter saw myself. I wanted a 10" slider originally but went with a 12" because it was cheaper between the brands I was considering. I thought I would be ok with a used saw but worried about it being banged / dinged up and possibly out of alignment to the point where I couldn't square it up and get replacement parts for an discontinued model. So I waited for black friday and got a Ridgid brand miter saw with the popular mobile stand. I really wanted a 12" Dewalt saw but it wasn't in the budget. So far I'm happy with the Ridgid.
 

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When I worked commercial carpentry we trimmed out churches, banks, high end offices, etc. regularly. At that time the saw that suited us carpenters the best for that type of work was the Dewalt 12" slider. I'm not sure anymore but 15 years ago they ruled.

I never wanted one though because you need a team of mules to set it up in the morning and tear it down at night. In a shop setting, which I didn't have back then, they couldn't be beat, in my opinion.

I cheaped out about five years ago on a 10" Craftsman slider. I hate that saw.
 

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I've got 3 miter saws.

A 8 1/4 hitachi slider that stays on my jobsite trailer. It handles 99% of everything I need as a remodeling contractor and is lightweight and easy to set up.

A 10 inch Hitachi slider in my shop that on rare occassion goes on the jobsite to process larger lumber

A fixed 10 inch Dewalt that I keep around to cut pallet wood and 2x4s for craft projects and other rough work.

I cant think of a single time in 16 years that I've needed a 12 inch slider for anything. Although my 10 inch slider will cut a 1x12 and alot wont so keep that in mind.

I also can't think of a single time in that same 16 years I felt the need to cut large framing lumber outside of a couple custom stair cases on a miter saw.

I hate to be the one to point this out but you dont need a miter saw to build a shed or a fence.

I see zero benefit in a cordless stationary tool for a diyer. And very little benefit in a cordless stationary tool for a professional. Even then it's a speciality tool

My advise is to figure out what your realistic use is and pick a saw that will cut the lumber you plan to use. Dewalt pretty much owns the miter saw market but I've had exceptional results from Hitachi and have used Makita saws that were outstanding. If buying used I'd look for a 10 inch slider with low hours. That's a good "likely to handle everything you'll ever need saw"
 
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We used those big sliders a lot on 12" crown. They were the cat's ***. Also very useful for Fipon (sp?) exterior moldings, etc. They definitely have their place. The problem was that the boss was talked into buying two of them, which we did need, and then thought we should just let the lighter saws die off due to attrition and no replacements. The laborers hated them so they slammed them around.

Excellent saw. No doubt in my mind. But if you need to be mobile, look another direction.
 

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If I had to buy another Miter saw to replace my 12” Compound Hitachi (non slide) I d look at the Bosch slider with the space saving arm. It looks sweet


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My go to saw is the DeWalt DW716 12”double bevel ( not a slider). I’ve used compound sliders while working for various employers.They have their place but their weight and price are an issue for me. The 716 is a very capable saw and works well for me. I just picked up a used one in great shape for $125.
 

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I picked up a dewalt 12" slider and stand during the black friday deal and love it, could get by with a 10" but wasnt on sale. Cordless seems like a nice option but cant justify Milwaukee price and Dewalt is highly recommend by people I know.

I had looked for used for a couple years and it's a joke what people were selling, either worn out junk or anything decent is 90% the price of new.
 

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I’ll put a vote in on the 10” sliding Ryobi. I remolded my entire downstairs and it did everything I asked it to do. If money were unlimited then I’d get a Bosch.
 
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